WEBVTT 00:16.118 --> 00:19.099 That was Jack Piñate with Tonight's Today. 00:19.839 --> 00:24.982 And I believe it's pronounced Piñate, even though I don't see the squiggly worm on the top of the end here. 00:25.442 --> 00:27.863 Because otherwise it would be Pennate, right? 00:27.903 --> 00:28.843 And that doesn't sound right. 00:29.403 --> 00:31.364 This is Adam and Jo on BBC Six Music. 00:31.604 --> 00:34.025 It's our special Easter pre-record. 00:34.365 --> 00:39.167 Yes, we are recording this show about 10 days ago now. 00:39.187 --> 00:40.848 Okay, it's from the past. 00:41.468 --> 00:49.173 And we have to be absolutely honest with you and let you know that it's pre-recorded because otherwise you might think it was live, you might start calling us, you might come round to meet us after the show. 00:49.453 --> 00:50.213 We wouldn't be there. 00:50.533 --> 00:53.135 You would feel your trust has not been safeguarded. 00:53.535 --> 00:54.496 We would be shot. 00:55.416 --> 00:58.218 And you know, you might end up being shot as well. 00:58.258 --> 01:03.841 Yeah, there's no way that Adam and I can do a live show on Easter Saturday because of our Easter commitments. 01:04.221 --> 01:04.922 Yeah, what are they? 01:05.702 --> 01:07.123 Lots of egg eating. 01:07.263 --> 01:07.843 That's true. 01:08.043 --> 01:10.365 A lot of sleeping and a lot of telewatching. 01:10.945 --> 01:13.467 Yeah, cozy family dramas, that kind of thing. 01:13.727 --> 01:19.010 Is that what you get on... I mean... Yeah, you get big specials, you know? 01:19.030 --> 01:23.172 I just said, is that what they get on... Yeah, and I understood what you said. 01:23.933 --> 01:24.894 I understood it perfectly. 01:25.374 --> 01:29.977 You get stuff about wizards and that sort of business and dragons and quests, that kind of thing. 01:30.077 --> 01:30.677 That's right. 01:30.837 --> 01:36.721 Quasi-religious stuff, but not religious, of course, because to be religious is very dangerous and provocative. 01:37.581 --> 01:38.042 These days. 01:38.543 --> 01:38.803 Right? 01:39.243 --> 01:40.184 No, completely wrong. 01:41.326 --> 01:43.869 Now listen, do you remember when they had Merlin? 01:44.590 --> 01:44.930 Yes. 01:44.950 --> 01:46.892 I'm talking about the real Merlin. 01:46.953 --> 01:47.313 No, I'm not. 01:47.493 --> 01:52.539 I'm talking about the adaptation done by pop video whiz kid Steve Barron a few years ago. 01:52.559 --> 01:53.901 Who was the guy? 01:53.941 --> 01:55.262 Sam Neill they had in it. 01:55.523 --> 01:56.464 It was great though, wasn't it? 01:56.684 --> 01:56.984 Wasn't it? 01:57.024 --> 01:58.466 That's exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. 01:58.506 --> 01:59.206 Yeah, exactly. 01:59.226 --> 02:02.449 Quasi-religious, family, dragon, wizard, quest-based entertainment. 02:02.469 --> 02:02.949 Brill pants. 02:03.610 --> 02:04.550 It was Brill Pants. 02:04.610 --> 02:06.072 Double thumbs up, Brillo Pads. 02:06.172 --> 02:06.932 Scrubby Pants. 02:07.052 --> 02:07.733 Wiggle Wacles. 02:07.953 --> 02:09.635 Yeah, so we can look forward to that kind of thing. 02:09.895 --> 02:12.537 This weekend, the big production is Skellig. 02:13.137 --> 02:13.938 That's right. 02:13.958 --> 02:15.319 It's all over all the posters. 02:15.479 --> 02:16.640 Yeah, with Kelly McDonald. 02:16.880 --> 02:17.221 Really? 02:17.401 --> 02:19.302 And the little chap from Son of Rambo. 02:19.422 --> 02:20.984 Yeah, Bill Miner. 02:21.404 --> 02:22.004 Something like that. 02:22.044 --> 02:22.625 Something like that. 02:22.685 --> 02:23.846 What's that about then, Skellig? 02:24.226 --> 02:26.388 Skellig, it's about a man called, it's about an actor. 02:26.428 --> 02:27.429 Tuck or Tim Roth. 02:44.850 --> 02:45.170 Waffle. 02:45.331 --> 02:47.012 We're featureless this time, right? 02:47.052 --> 02:53.058 Because it's a pre-record, we are not able to interact with you, our listeners, in the way that we normally would enjoy. 02:53.078 --> 02:58.703 However, I don't want you to stop listening just because of that, because we still have some wonderful, delicious waffles. 03:03.047 --> 03:05.509 Always catch the beginning of the show. 03:05.970 --> 03:08.032 Black squadron don't want to miss a thing. 03:08.332 --> 03:09.273 That's not the one. 03:09.353 --> 03:10.674 Black squadron roll. 03:14.099 --> 03:16.342 Went to bed at a reasonable hour. 03:16.563 --> 03:19.227 Gotta be sharp on Saturday morning. 03:19.527 --> 03:25.056 That's the secret of the squadron's power. 03:25.616 --> 03:27.820 Here's Amy Winehouse with In My Bed. 03:27.980 --> 03:29.803 Imagine, imagine what it's like. 03:30.535 --> 03:32.876 Amy Winehouse there within my bed. 03:33.977 --> 03:35.158 Yeah, that sound. 03:36.018 --> 03:36.839 That's her bones. 03:39.100 --> 03:44.163 What sound would the things in her hair make? 03:44.283 --> 03:45.403 Let's move on already. 03:45.864 --> 03:46.124 What? 03:46.204 --> 03:47.665 We could have talked about that for another 10 years. 03:48.485 --> 04:00.898 we should have a little bit more music now we're gonna have your choice oh yeah okay uh here is a track this is i thought about this track before i picked it why did you do that well i don't know i mean am i right in thinking 04:01.696 --> 04:02.656 No, you're wrong. 04:02.676 --> 04:03.317 It's wrong to think. 04:03.497 --> 04:03.817 Oh, right. 04:03.877 --> 04:04.137 Okay. 04:04.157 --> 04:05.538 That's just over-complicates matters. 04:05.978 --> 04:08.379 Anyway, it's all about instinctive reactions. 04:08.639 --> 04:08.899 Yes. 04:08.999 --> 04:10.000 Like that book, Blink. 04:10.200 --> 04:11.280 You know, we've talked about that. 04:11.340 --> 04:12.321 People who think are idiots. 04:12.361 --> 04:13.161 They're over-analyzed. 04:13.181 --> 04:14.222 It's all about thin slicing. 04:14.262 --> 04:15.562 It's about... Yeah, what? 04:15.782 --> 04:16.323 Thin slicing. 04:16.343 --> 04:16.823 That's what he calls it. 04:16.843 --> 04:17.303 Is that the new one? 04:17.323 --> 04:17.603 Does he? 04:17.823 --> 04:18.084 Yeah. 04:18.104 --> 04:20.325 It's all about instinctive reactions, snap judgments. 04:20.565 --> 04:20.745 Mm-hmm. 04:21.485 --> 04:30.573 Well, I made an instinctive snap judgment based on the title of this track and I chose it as free play because it's by an artist I admire very much, Robin Hitchcock. 04:30.874 --> 04:39.882 This is a track from his new album Goodnight Oslo and it's called Saturday Groovers because you see, it's Saturday, we're like groovers and 04:40.836 --> 04:41.917 I wish you'd stop thinking. 04:59.310 --> 05:00.591 That's absolutely true. 05:00.631 --> 05:02.453 I mean, I've sent everything off in a weird direction. 05:02.513 --> 05:03.114 No, that's nice. 05:03.174 --> 05:07.698 It was good to have a pause as well, because maybe people would sense the affection. 05:08.078 --> 05:12.722 Some people might get angry about that and just say, don't be so insincere. 05:13.143 --> 05:14.104 You don't even know us. 05:14.164 --> 05:15.405 How can you say something like that? 05:15.425 --> 05:16.125 That's true. 05:16.586 --> 05:17.587 What would I say back to them? 05:17.941 --> 05:18.442 I don't know. 05:18.502 --> 05:21.746 I don't know what you'd say, because you tell people you love them a lot on this programme. 05:21.987 --> 05:29.817 At the end of every show you say it, and if people felt that, then they probably would have been repelled by you long ago. 05:29.918 --> 05:30.559 I would have thought. 05:30.639 --> 05:31.420 Yeah, it's too late. 05:31.760 --> 05:34.724 Anyway, listen, have you seen the film Trans-Siberian? 05:35.485 --> 05:37.087 No, I haven't even heard of that. 05:37.628 --> 05:43.514 It's a film and it's about Woody Harrelson and Ben Kingsley on the Trend Siberian Express. 05:43.534 --> 05:44.335 Is this a new film? 05:45.036 --> 05:45.997 Yeah, kind of. 05:46.057 --> 05:53.425 It's one of those films that sort of has failed to be liked by anybody, so it's hard to tell when it was released, you know? 05:53.645 --> 05:55.007 Is it available on DVD? 05:55.127 --> 05:56.228 It is available on DVD. 05:57.389 --> 06:01.231 I bought it for £25 on Blu-ray. 06:01.351 --> 06:02.111 What made you buy it? 06:02.171 --> 06:02.971 Like the famous name? 06:03.051 --> 06:04.392 I just like a train movie. 06:04.652 --> 06:04.892 Yeah. 06:05.052 --> 06:06.852 I like Runaway Train with Jon Voight. 06:06.972 --> 06:07.393 That's right. 06:08.013 --> 06:10.174 I like The Polar Express. 06:10.714 --> 06:11.014 Yes. 06:11.714 --> 06:12.494 I love train movies. 06:12.514 --> 06:13.355 The Cassandra Crossing. 06:13.915 --> 06:15.335 A train is a good place for a film. 06:15.555 --> 06:15.796 Sure. 06:15.996 --> 06:17.116 Everything's moving all the time. 06:17.136 --> 06:20.777 I think even a static conversation is fascinating because of what's out the window. 06:21.017 --> 06:21.518 Absolutely. 06:21.538 --> 06:22.518 You can hang off the side. 06:22.958 --> 06:23.138 Yeah. 06:23.298 --> 06:25.320 Detach the carriages. 06:25.760 --> 06:28.042 Train bits in films are always memorable, you're right. 06:28.162 --> 06:33.586 Biff the driver and take control and go too fast and oh no you're gonna go off the points! 06:33.826 --> 06:38.510 Yeah, someone's making an annoying phone call in the quiet carriage. 06:38.910 --> 06:39.271 Oh no! 06:39.351 --> 06:40.872 That's your train film. 06:41.833 --> 06:43.714 That's the Buckles Express action film. 06:43.834 --> 06:44.675 Harrison Ford gets 06:44.955 --> 06:47.378 furious with someone making a call in a quiet carriage. 06:47.418 --> 06:48.759 It'd be like falling down on a train. 06:48.999 --> 06:49.380 Exactly. 06:49.400 --> 06:50.561 Just a really annoyed man. 06:51.061 --> 06:55.065 Anyway, so I bought Transcyberian because actually I read an Empire magazine. 06:55.145 --> 07:00.771 Kim Newman does a column where he recommends straight to video releases that are actually quite good. 07:00.791 --> 07:01.812 I bought it. 07:02.212 --> 07:04.154 It was a complete stinker. 07:04.435 --> 07:04.835 Right. 07:04.855 --> 07:05.396 It was rubbish. 07:06.036 --> 07:12.499 Again, I'm compelled to say a dirty swear word to try and communicate how poor it was, but I can't, I shan't. 07:12.579 --> 07:15.261 Joe Cornish, you're involved in the movie industry yourself now. 07:15.301 --> 07:16.401 How can you be so indiscreet? 07:16.421 --> 07:18.062 You might be working with Sir Ben one day. 07:18.142 --> 07:19.043 You're absolutely right. 07:19.123 --> 07:21.124 And he would have heard the podcast and he would have said... 07:21.784 --> 07:23.506 He does listen to the podcast. 07:23.706 --> 07:29.432 You know, Joe, I heard what you said one time about Transciberian Express. 07:29.952 --> 07:31.714 You rude mangy. 07:31.734 --> 07:37.020 I ain't working with you, you dress, you dirty trouser nonce. 07:37.080 --> 07:38.781 Because that's what Kingsley sounds like, isn't it? 07:38.961 --> 07:39.162 Yeah. 07:39.602 --> 07:39.822 Yeah. 07:40.483 --> 07:41.324 It was a poor film. 07:41.444 --> 07:45.387 It was one of those films where people make decisions that you in your own life would never make. 07:46.208 --> 07:48.931 And in doing so, they kind of detach you from the experience. 07:48.951 --> 07:49.611 Do you know what I mean? 07:49.671 --> 07:49.952 Sure. 07:49.972 --> 07:51.613 You just think, oh, you're an idiot. 07:51.653 --> 07:52.334 Why did you do that? 07:52.354 --> 07:53.855 You just deserve everything that's coming to you. 07:53.875 --> 07:55.537 That's what happens every time I watch EastEnders. 07:55.717 --> 07:56.257 There you go. 07:56.838 --> 08:02.063 Anyway, this is a very long winded way of saying I took it back to the shop to get my money back to HMV. 08:02.483 --> 08:03.804 I thought, I'm going to take this back to the shop. 08:03.944 --> 08:06.006 That's not a good criteria for getting your money back, though. 08:06.046 --> 08:06.767 I didn't like it. 08:07.027 --> 08:14.654 Well, I thought, maybe I can generate an anecdote for the program by being provocative in what I say to them when I take it back. 08:15.014 --> 08:24.863 Because when you return things to shops, they have a thing above the counter that says, it says, if your product is a gift bought in error, we will exchange it. 08:25.583 --> 08:27.725 So usually you can just go in and say, look, I bought this for my friend. 08:27.745 --> 08:28.386 They've already got it. 08:28.426 --> 08:29.006 Can I swap it? 08:29.807 --> 08:32.348 I went up and I said to him, hello, this is broken. 08:32.828 --> 08:33.809 I'd like my money back. 08:34.469 --> 08:36.870 And he said, oh, yeah, is it broken? 08:37.450 --> 08:39.451 I said, well, not really, but the film's broken. 08:39.471 --> 08:40.971 It's rubbish. 08:41.311 --> 08:42.632 The story doesn't work. 08:42.852 --> 08:44.252 The characters are ineffectual. 08:44.613 --> 08:45.933 It's it's a broken film. 08:46.193 --> 08:47.013 Did you really say? 08:47.034 --> 08:47.694 Yeah, I did say that. 08:48.434 --> 08:49.274 I thought this is brilliant. 08:49.454 --> 08:50.715 We're going to have an argument. 08:50.735 --> 08:52.616 I'm going to have a brilliant anecdote for the show. 08:53.076 --> 08:54.776 He smiled and laughed and said, all right. 08:56.537 --> 08:57.678 Gave you your money back. 08:57.698 --> 08:58.819 Swapped it for Moonraker. 08:59.079 --> 08:59.940 Which is wicked. 09:00.120 --> 09:00.660 It is wicked. 09:00.700 --> 09:01.901 Yeah, he goes into space. 09:02.381 --> 09:02.722 I know. 09:02.982 --> 09:03.182 Yeah. 09:03.382 --> 09:04.083 Jaws is up there. 09:04.203 --> 09:05.023 It's the end of that story. 09:05.404 --> 09:06.965 Oh, that's disappointing, isn't it? 09:07.405 --> 09:09.827 Next time you take something back, why don't you try saying something? 09:09.847 --> 09:10.787 I am going to try saying something. 09:10.807 --> 09:11.588 Slightly provocative. 09:11.668 --> 09:15.791 Well, you know, shop assistants where I come from might not be so good human about that. 09:15.811 --> 09:17.752 In Norfolk, this was HMV Oxford Street. 09:18.133 --> 09:21.155 What's the world coming to when a shop assistant like that gets a sense of humor? 09:21.195 --> 09:21.515 You know? 09:21.535 --> 09:22.516 That's a disgrace. 09:22.796 --> 09:25.297 Adam and Jo here on BBC6 Music. 09:25.497 --> 09:31.378 Pre-recorded, I have to tell you we're not actually live right now, but it's a wonderful pleasure to be with you. 09:31.418 --> 09:33.659 It's almost as if we've been resurrected. 09:34.339 --> 09:36.919 Right, that's in questionable taste on this. 09:36.939 --> 09:36.999 Why? 09:37.440 --> 09:41.881 Because you might offend someone, and if you were to offend someone, that would be offensive. 09:42.201 --> 09:43.061 That's true, isn't it? 09:43.221 --> 09:43.461 Yeah. 09:43.881 --> 09:45.341 Adam's right, we haven't been resurrected. 09:45.822 --> 09:46.862 We're dead, we're both dead. 09:48.202 --> 09:52.625 See, that's offensive to dead people and people who... I just said, oh God. 09:52.965 --> 09:53.465 Exactly. 09:53.525 --> 09:56.847 So you are all over the place as far as being offensive goes. 09:56.887 --> 09:58.888 You're off, get your coat, get out. 09:59.709 --> 10:07.313 Have you ever been on one of those trains, right, where the toilets are like a circular, it's a big, 10:07.873 --> 10:09.034 Big circular toilet. 10:09.134 --> 10:12.417 Yeah, like the door to a photo-developing room. 10:12.697 --> 10:16.940 Like the man-in-man hunter takes the blind lady to. 10:17.400 --> 10:18.201 Good times. 10:19.702 --> 10:21.644 What a great film that was. 10:22.985 --> 10:26.367 And they've got the big curvaceous door that you have to slide round. 10:26.688 --> 10:34.454 Like the first time you used one of those, I'm assuming you have used one in your life, did it take you like about half an hour to figure out what was going on? 10:35.474 --> 10:37.776 For the sake of making you feel better, yes, it did. 10:38.596 --> 10:40.137 Really, you figured it out instantaneously. 10:40.157 --> 10:41.317 No, you know what? 10:41.398 --> 10:42.098 I don't remember. 10:42.658 --> 10:45.460 But the fact that I don't remember probably means I got in there all right. 10:45.480 --> 10:46.901 I had to ask someone. 10:46.921 --> 10:47.901 Did you? 10:48.782 --> 10:50.062 You had to ask somebody. 10:50.082 --> 10:51.383 I had to ask someone. 10:51.603 --> 10:55.445 You better ask somebody to use the circular toilet. 10:55.485 --> 10:56.266 Who did you ask? 10:56.726 --> 10:57.626 A child. 10:57.847 --> 11:00.828 I asked the man who was just sat nearest. 11:01.208 --> 11:01.489 Really? 11:01.689 --> 11:01.929 Yeah. 11:02.509 --> 11:03.089 Excuse me. 11:03.530 --> 11:07.652 Um, I'm trying to use the... Lou, any idea how it works? 11:07.692 --> 11:08.833 Describe the handle. 11:09.454 --> 11:10.414 Well, there's no handle. 11:10.454 --> 11:11.975 There's just butons, right? 11:12.235 --> 11:12.455 Right. 11:12.475 --> 11:14.056 So does one say open? 11:14.377 --> 11:14.597 No. 11:15.057 --> 11:15.978 No. 11:16.518 --> 11:16.738 No. 11:17.018 --> 11:20.781 What they say is, well, there's a buton on the outside, which maybe says open. 11:20.801 --> 11:21.741 I'll give you that, right? 11:21.761 --> 11:22.602 So that's the easy part. 11:22.982 --> 11:29.867 press that, bongo, the door starts sliding open, good times, hooray, I'm going to be doing my business very soon. 11:30.247 --> 11:36.872 But then, when you're inside the circular lav, that's when the problems begin, because you're presented with two buttons. 11:37.572 --> 11:41.174 One says D, the other says L. No, that's obvious. 11:41.214 --> 11:42.095 What do they mean? 11:42.315 --> 11:42.896 Do-do's? 11:43.856 --> 11:44.437 Lulu's. 11:45.277 --> 11:46.198 Do-do's and leaky's. 11:46.458 --> 11:48.439 Do-do's and leaky-loo's. 11:50.049 --> 11:53.452 Well, of course, that's the logical language for it. 11:53.492 --> 11:54.994 Of course, that's the logical assumption. 11:55.394 --> 12:04.743 You know, you're going in there for number one and you press L for leekies or Lulu, whatever you want to call it. 12:05.084 --> 12:05.264 Right. 12:05.704 --> 12:12.951 But you would be wrong to do that because what that's doing is locking the door and you haven't even closed the door yet. 12:13.011 --> 12:13.572 You still with me? 12:13.792 --> 12:14.052 Yes. 12:14.372 --> 12:16.614 So what you have to do is press D for door. 12:16.734 --> 12:17.755 How is that logical? 12:18.055 --> 12:19.776 So once you press D for door. 12:19.976 --> 12:20.556 You're in there. 12:20.596 --> 12:21.357 Are you in there now? 12:21.377 --> 12:21.717 I'm in there. 12:21.737 --> 12:22.337 You've opened it. 12:22.378 --> 12:23.278 You've stepped inside. 12:23.298 --> 12:23.738 Stepped inside. 12:23.758 --> 12:24.839 You're attempting to close it. 12:25.059 --> 12:25.640 I'm desperate. 12:25.680 --> 12:28.501 Your choice is D and L. D and L. I'm desperate as well. 12:29.902 --> 12:30.783 D for desperate. 12:30.903 --> 12:31.604 D for desperate. 12:32.464 --> 12:34.066 So you close, you press D finally. 12:34.486 --> 12:35.427 You're not quite sure what's happening. 12:35.447 --> 12:38.569 You're pressing the doors randomly, the buttons randomly. 12:38.849 --> 12:43.713 The door starts closing, but only after a very long lag after you've pressed the button, right? 12:43.993 --> 12:46.015 In fact, you're not even sure if anything's actually going to happen. 12:46.035 --> 12:49.157 So you press the button again, then the door sort of slides back open. 12:49.497 --> 12:50.859 Meanwhile, people are looking at you 12:51.559 --> 12:55.720 and thinking, you're the stupidest, one of the stupidest people ever created. 12:57.521 --> 13:00.062 I still can't get the door, finally you get the door shut. 13:00.082 --> 13:01.602 You're thinking, right, how do I lock it? 13:01.642 --> 13:04.303 Obviously you press L for lock. 13:04.723 --> 13:08.244 So you lock it and then you have to have the whole problem. 13:08.464 --> 13:12.125 I mean, I'm making it sound... No, it sounds unintuitive. 13:12.265 --> 13:13.646 It does sound unintuitive. 13:13.706 --> 13:14.286 D and L? 13:15.507 --> 13:16.567 They don't teach you that as kids. 13:16.587 --> 13:17.628 They're not used anywhere else. 13:17.908 --> 13:18.688 I don't think so. 13:18.948 --> 13:19.228 No. 13:20.529 --> 13:24.310 What you want is an O and a C. What's that for? 13:24.490 --> 13:25.450 Open and close? 13:25.511 --> 13:26.431 Yeah. 13:26.931 --> 13:27.311 Weird. 13:27.471 --> 13:30.552 I need some really serious kind of help. 13:34.683 --> 13:42.182 Stand down, your work is done You've earned yourself a nice warm bath And maybe a nice little bargain 13:45.506 --> 13:47.167 This is Adam and Jo on BBC6 Music. 13:47.387 --> 13:49.007 It's 9.30 and time for the news. 13:49.567 --> 13:51.188 That's Doves with Kingdom of Rust. 13:51.208 --> 13:54.369 This is Adam and Jo with you on BBC6 Music. 13:54.929 --> 13:58.110 This is a pre-record, but there's no need to talk about that. 13:58.570 --> 14:07.593 No, well we have to mention it every now and again so that you don't text us or email us or phone us because that would be a waste of your money and we'd be very depressed about it. 14:07.813 --> 14:11.295 But it's Easter Saturday, which is a fun day, isn't it? 14:11.475 --> 14:11.855 Absolutely. 14:11.875 --> 14:13.396 Are you going on an Easter egg hunt? 14:14.437 --> 14:18.519 No, there won't be any Easter egg hunting, I don't think, this weekend. 14:20.080 --> 14:25.823 For the Cornish household, what happens in the Buckles household on an Easter Sunday? 14:25.943 --> 14:29.265 Well, we've got children now, of course, so it's mo fun. 14:29.725 --> 14:30.326 Hunting time. 14:30.366 --> 14:34.488 And this is going to be your first Easter in the countryside, so there's a lot of 14:34.568 --> 14:35.669 scope for hunting. 14:36.609 --> 14:39.751 My childhood was full of Easter egg hunts in Devonshire. 14:40.012 --> 14:40.192 Right. 14:40.472 --> 14:41.032 In the woods. 14:41.352 --> 14:43.514 Did your parents used to write out complicated clues? 14:43.534 --> 15:01.586 Yes, one time loads of cousins we all used to do it in a massive group and the clues used to go from a house on a hill all the way down the drive into a forest and one Easter the secret golden egg was hidden in the lake in a plastic bag in the river in a plastic bag under the bridge. 15:01.846 --> 15:03.367 Well, are they trying to drown you or something? 15:04.528 --> 15:07.170 No, they were trying to give us explorative fun. 15:07.450 --> 15:08.651 Shallow river, this is. 15:08.691 --> 15:10.752 Yeah, yeah, a lovely little stream is the word. 15:10.952 --> 15:12.133 Stream is what I was looking for. 15:12.153 --> 15:16.236 I was picturing like a raging torrent and all these little children just going in their pied python. 15:16.256 --> 15:16.516 No. 15:16.877 --> 15:17.417 It was fun. 15:17.457 --> 15:18.198 It was amazing. 15:18.318 --> 15:19.358 Easter egg hunts. 15:19.378 --> 15:19.759 They're brilliant. 15:19.779 --> 15:20.719 Are you going to do that kind of thing? 15:20.839 --> 15:21.600 Yeah, definitely. 15:21.640 --> 15:22.881 Maybe not as ambitious as that. 15:23.061 --> 15:24.202 You should go ambitious, man. 15:24.562 --> 15:26.043 Well, why not go ambitious? 15:26.063 --> 15:27.825 Yeah, because always have grand plans. 15:27.845 --> 15:29.266 I always think this year is going to be amazing. 15:29.286 --> 15:31.448 I'm going to think of some fantastic clues and stuff. 15:32.008 --> 15:38.974 Basically, what they get the most fun out of is just racing like you scatter a load of eggs in one vicinity. 15:39.614 --> 15:42.435 and they sort of see the paper gleaming there in the flowers. 15:42.455 --> 15:44.456 You're encouraging them to be overly competitive. 15:44.896 --> 15:47.637 You've got to make it so they have to use their brains. 15:48.557 --> 15:52.879 Bit of intuitive and logic and stuff, because that can get very competitive. 15:53.319 --> 16:04.403 Do you have a thing where you put big eggs, so there's a big egg for each child, and the big egg has their name on it, but then you have lots of little eggs, cheaper eggs for whoever finds them. 16:04.543 --> 16:05.003 That's right. 16:05.123 --> 16:05.904 That can get violent. 16:06.664 --> 16:06.904 Yeah. 16:06.984 --> 16:08.425 I remember it getting violent in the past. 16:08.545 --> 16:16.148 I remember certain cousins collecting too many little eggs, getting like a one that's slightly older than you, maybe shoving you out of the way, getting very competitive. 16:16.168 --> 16:16.808 That can happen. 16:16.968 --> 16:17.469 Aggressive. 16:18.069 --> 16:21.570 And we give them little baskets as well, so they go around putting them in the baskets. 16:21.590 --> 16:22.711 Yeah, but what about an Easter? 16:24.331 --> 16:27.233 And they're constantly comparing baskets. 16:27.293 --> 16:32.115 I wish I could describe the look on Joe's smug face when he said that. 16:34.722 --> 16:35.383 As if that was it. 16:35.743 --> 16:40.168 That's all you're going to need for the next hour is that I said, yeah, and what about Easter? 16:40.988 --> 16:42.290 What are you going to do with that? 16:43.391 --> 16:44.432 I think you should go for clues. 16:44.672 --> 16:45.012 Yeah. 16:45.453 --> 16:46.214 Elaborate clues. 16:47.275 --> 16:53.721 My first is in egg, but not in Donald. 16:54.522 --> 16:55.683 What's that clue for? 16:55.703 --> 16:57.786 I don't know, but it'll keep them busy all afternoon. 16:58.126 --> 16:58.406 Yeah. 17:00.208 --> 17:01.890 You can kick back and watch some telly. 17:02.050 --> 17:03.932 My first is... Dad! 17:06.835 --> 17:08.077 My first is an egg. 17:09.779 --> 17:11.901 But what was it but not Donald? 17:11.981 --> 17:12.422 Donald. 17:14.949 --> 17:15.851 That'll take him a while. 17:15.871 --> 17:16.753 Yeah, that will. 17:18.396 --> 17:19.538 He'll be there till Christmas. 17:20.240 --> 17:21.102 More music now. 17:21.382 --> 17:25.470 Here is Naughty by Nature with Hip Hop Hooray. 17:26.232 --> 17:29.273 Wow, that is how the world sounded in 1993. 17:29.453 --> 17:30.813 Naughty by nature with hip-hop. 17:30.873 --> 17:31.313 Hooray! 17:31.693 --> 17:35.855 Right now, Joe, we've got a message that came through from a chap called Richard. 17:36.635 --> 17:38.015 And he says, hey there, Adam and Joe. 17:38.835 --> 17:41.436 I was wondering if you could recommend any good movies. 17:42.016 --> 17:46.017 I was thinking of some people who seem to have good taste in movies and you too sprung to mind. 17:46.377 --> 17:46.938 Many thanks. 17:48.078 --> 17:48.378 Richard. 17:48.858 --> 17:49.899 That's a nice email. 17:50.119 --> 17:53.081 It's very good that he would think of us to recommend films. 17:53.121 --> 17:57.484 Sometimes it's hard to respond to that kind of email because of the quantity we get. 17:57.704 --> 18:03.087 We don't get that many, but because we read them all ourselves, it takes a bit of time. 18:03.247 --> 18:04.168 So what are you thinking? 18:04.188 --> 18:06.589 Are you thinking we should recommend him some films? 18:07.350 --> 18:09.051 He's giving the impression that he hasn't seen any. 18:09.251 --> 18:09.931 None films. 18:10.011 --> 18:11.032 None films at all. 18:11.192 --> 18:13.734 So for someone who hasn't seen any films at all... Where would you start? 18:13.934 --> 18:16.776 Well, you'd start with just your simple train coming towards the camera. 18:17.396 --> 18:20.238 Because famously, historically, that had an enormous impression. 18:20.298 --> 18:22.820 Everyone thought that they were going to be squashed by the train. 18:23.020 --> 18:25.141 So you would start with like a history of the cinema. 18:25.161 --> 18:26.082 You'd go right back to the beginning. 18:26.102 --> 18:32.106 No, I just think if this guy hasn't seen films before, then it'll work on, you know, stories and characters might be too difficult for him. 18:32.226 --> 18:32.426 Yeah. 18:32.586 --> 18:35.568 You should start just with the visceral thrill of moving objects. 18:35.708 --> 18:35.969 OK. 18:36.829 --> 18:39.131 So maybe... Well, Mamma Mia. 18:39.351 --> 18:39.611 Mamma Mia. 18:39.651 --> 18:40.472 That would do the job, wouldn't it? 18:40.512 --> 18:40.932 Exactly. 18:40.972 --> 18:42.513 That hasn't got a story or characters. 18:43.173 --> 18:46.476 It's just colours and moving objects and sounds. 18:47.756 --> 18:50.877 I tell you what other good films... What's another good film? 18:51.057 --> 18:51.818 Galaxy Quest. 18:51.898 --> 18:52.818 That's a good film. 18:53.018 --> 18:54.098 Yeah, that's a very good film. 18:54.118 --> 18:54.919 I would start there personally. 18:54.939 --> 18:55.739 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. 18:55.939 --> 18:56.079 Yeah. 18:56.219 --> 18:57.740 I'd go for... Maybe Oliver, that's good. 18:57.780 --> 18:59.240 Did you go for Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? 18:59.280 --> 19:00.120 That's a great film. 19:00.360 --> 19:00.841 In what way? 19:00.921 --> 19:01.201 Great. 19:01.241 --> 19:02.201 It's got good songs. 19:02.441 --> 19:03.321 I mean, yes, that's true. 19:03.341 --> 19:03.802 There are good bits. 19:03.842 --> 19:04.822 It's got a flying car. 19:04.842 --> 19:05.842 It's hard to sit through. 19:05.862 --> 19:06.762 The dad's an inventor. 19:06.843 --> 19:07.363 I disagree. 19:07.403 --> 19:08.503 I like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang a lot. 19:08.523 --> 19:09.663 It comes off for about four years. 19:09.723 --> 19:11.144 The Truly Scrumptious. 19:11.184 --> 19:12.364 That's the worst song in the whole film. 19:12.404 --> 19:13.305 You're really, truly scrumptious. 19:13.325 --> 19:14.185 Do you really like that song? 19:14.205 --> 19:14.305 Yep. 19:14.505 --> 19:15.125 It's a disgrace. 19:15.165 --> 19:16.846 I had the album when I was a kid, so... Toot, sweets! 19:16.866 --> 19:17.367 Toot, sweets! 19:17.387 --> 19:18.988 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:19.068 --> 19:19.848 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:19.868 --> 19:20.589 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:20.609 --> 19:21.429 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:21.449 --> 19:22.310 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:22.430 --> 19:23.110 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:23.130 --> 19:23.731 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:23.751 --> 19:24.691 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:24.711 --> 19:25.492 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:25.512 --> 19:26.272 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:26.292 --> 19:27.713 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:27.753 --> 19:28.874 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:28.914 --> 19:30.095 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:30.115 --> 19:30.915 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:30.935 --> 19:31.676 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:31.696 --> 19:33.016 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:33.036 --> 19:33.817 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:33.837 --> 19:34.577 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:34.597 --> 19:35.338 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:35.398 --> 19:36.078 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:36.118 --> 19:37.379 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:37.399 --> 19:38.040 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:38.060 --> 19:38.600 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:38.640 --> 19:39.480 The wonderful... Toot, sweets! 19:39.500 --> 19:40.161 The wonderful... Toot 19:40.481 --> 19:41.822 That's one of the best films ever made. 19:41.842 --> 19:42.262 Do you think? 19:42.402 --> 19:43.062 Ivan Reitman. 19:43.422 --> 19:45.463 I think it's a bit of a TV drama myself. 19:45.483 --> 19:46.144 You're insane. 19:46.164 --> 19:47.024 It's un-cinematic. 19:47.064 --> 19:48.005 It's underrated. 19:48.045 --> 19:48.325 It's brilliant. 19:48.345 --> 19:48.665 It's what it is. 19:48.725 --> 19:49.606 It's terrifically written. 19:49.626 --> 19:50.646 Sigourney Weaver. 19:50.866 --> 19:51.446 Good for telly. 19:51.486 --> 19:52.387 Very good telly watch. 19:52.427 --> 19:52.667 Yeah. 19:52.867 --> 19:54.348 Wouldn't go out to the cinema to see that. 19:54.368 --> 19:55.448 It's classic cinema. 19:55.829 --> 19:56.289 Do you think? 19:56.469 --> 19:57.069 Yes, I do. 19:57.209 --> 19:57.449 All right. 19:57.509 --> 19:58.350 Serious recommendation. 19:58.390 --> 19:59.090 Not that Dave wasn't. 19:59.690 --> 20:00.431 The escapist. 20:00.871 --> 20:01.511 Haven't seen that. 20:01.571 --> 20:02.492 That's good, man. 20:03.012 --> 20:03.892 It was unusual. 20:04.693 --> 20:09.615 And it's about a... It's Brian Cox plotting an escape from prison. 20:10.395 --> 20:13.697 And it's very cleverly structured and plotted, nice little cat. 20:13.717 --> 20:17.938 I mean, you know, it's not like the best film ever made, but it's unusually good, I would say. 20:18.078 --> 20:19.079 I'd recommend a film. 20:19.119 --> 20:21.600 I think it's Danish, it's European, it's called The Substitute. 20:21.820 --> 20:22.000 Right. 20:22.961 --> 20:27.563 It's about a substitute teacher who turns up at a school who is an alien. 20:28.143 --> 20:28.243 Oh! 20:28.463 --> 20:29.203 It's very good. 20:29.403 --> 20:30.704 What a bit like The Faculty. 20:31.484 --> 20:33.185 Yeah, but much, much, much better. 20:33.245 --> 20:33.625 Oh, is it? 20:33.826 --> 20:36.547 Yeah, you can only get it in America, I think. 20:36.767 --> 20:37.567 The substitute. 20:37.648 --> 20:38.868 Yeah, and it's mis-packaged. 20:38.908 --> 20:40.249 It's packaged like a horror film. 20:40.449 --> 20:41.289 I'm gonna write that down. 20:41.630 --> 20:49.194 But if you buy it, if you order it, it looks like a sort of silly horror film, but when you get it, you realise they're just trying to flog it to horror fans because they sort of don't know what to do with it. 20:49.474 --> 20:49.654 Yeah. 20:49.734 --> 20:57.238 It's basically a children's film, but it's got swearing and it's quite sort of violent and you know, like the sort of children's films they used to make. 20:58.615 --> 20:59.716 with swearing and violence. 20:59.756 --> 21:05.181 Yeah, well, Indiana Jones' The Temple of Doom had swearing, the Goonies, all those 70s and 80s spilled by family films. 21:05.401 --> 21:12.247 They're quite transgressive in the way that raiders had exploding heads that you hadn't seen, you know, that were usually in films like Scanners. 21:13.248 --> 21:17.792 They gave kids, you know, they gave kids slightly edgy stuff, edgy stuff back in those days. 21:17.812 --> 21:19.573 So that's a good recommendation, the substitute. 21:19.633 --> 21:21.475 I've written that one down, very nice. 21:22.116 --> 21:23.177 The film Gonzo. 21:24.378 --> 21:28.082 It's a documentary about Hunter S. Thompson, which I read some sniffy reviews about. 21:28.102 --> 21:32.487 You know, because sometimes it's a bit like the slumdog millionaire thing, right? 21:32.667 --> 21:33.308 Wonderful film. 21:33.668 --> 21:41.197 But it's weird how people make a decision to get behind something in some cases or not get behind other things, you know what I mean? 21:41.237 --> 21:42.598 And they just get totally sidelined. 21:42.819 --> 21:44.040 Like the slumdog billionaire 21:45.141 --> 21:47.783 There was a kind of unconscious memo that went round. 21:47.843 --> 21:50.504 Everyone was thinking, oh, wow, I've got to get behind this. 21:50.584 --> 21:51.504 Everyone's getting behind this. 21:52.305 --> 21:53.145 I'm going to get behind it too. 21:53.165 --> 21:54.046 You know what I mean? 21:54.106 --> 21:55.867 And there was suddenly just a tidal wave. 21:55.887 --> 21:59.108 It was unstoppable and it was just winning every single award. 21:59.148 --> 21:59.589 You know what I mean? 22:00.149 --> 22:04.171 If you were one of the people who was not going to get behind it, that was a statement in itself. 22:04.511 --> 22:06.252 I'm not going to get behind Slumdog. 22:06.433 --> 22:07.593 I didn't think it was that good. 22:07.733 --> 22:09.795 I thought it was a bit overrated, that kind of thing. 22:10.055 --> 22:10.656 Opinions. 22:10.736 --> 22:15.639 It becomes all about, you know, the opinions become more important than the film itself in a way. 22:15.780 --> 22:20.923 Anyway, listen, I'm going off the point because the fact is that people were sniffy about this Hunter S. Thompson documentary. 22:21.264 --> 22:23.745 I thought it was brilliant, brilliantly made, really interesting. 22:24.086 --> 22:28.069 You know, obviously, if you know everything there is to know about Hunter S. Thompson, it might not be that wonderful, but I didn't. 22:28.189 --> 22:29.250 And I found it fascinating. 22:29.310 --> 22:29.910 Two guns up. 22:30.050 --> 22:30.831 Two guns up. 22:31.311 --> 22:31.772 It was great. 22:32.512 --> 22:36.313 Yeah, here's a little bit more from King Creosote's new album, Flick the V's. 22:37.194 --> 22:39.694 It's out on April the 20th, I do believe. 22:40.195 --> 22:41.355 And this track's called Rims. 22:41.815 --> 22:48.037 Flaming Lips there with Satellite of You, recorded for six music on July the 11th, 2002. 22:48.177 --> 22:49.378 That was a session track. 22:49.718 --> 22:50.418 I love sessions. 22:50.498 --> 22:51.258 It was good, wasn't it? 22:51.518 --> 22:53.039 Yeah, I mean, imagine. 22:53.479 --> 22:58.542 Now, Nick Frost at the Brits several months ago, or weeks ago, did you see him presenting an award? 22:58.842 --> 22:59.703 No, I didn't, I missed that. 22:59.763 --> 23:02.684 He's a very brilliant, funny and forthright man, Nick Frost. 23:02.764 --> 23:03.625 Oh no, wait, maybe I did, yes. 23:03.645 --> 23:05.106 And he doesn't beat around the bush. 23:05.386 --> 23:08.087 In fact, I think he takes pleasure in saying exactly what he thinks. 23:08.588 --> 23:12.630 He came on to present his award, which was for best, something with live music. 23:13.130 --> 23:15.592 And he said something along the lines of, 23:16.272 --> 23:17.553 I don't really like live music. 23:17.833 --> 23:19.794 I don't think it sounds as good as recorded music. 23:20.074 --> 23:23.415 It's not the right format for music live, so I don't know why I'm presenting this. 23:23.816 --> 23:24.096 Anyway. 23:24.756 --> 23:25.756 It was a joke though, wasn't it? 23:25.957 --> 23:29.398 It was a joke, but I also think it probably kind of wasn't a joke. 23:29.518 --> 23:34.560 It was a joke in that he was saying something sort of completely antithetical to what he was doing there. 23:34.681 --> 23:34.901 Yeah. 23:35.061 --> 23:39.603 And being sort of provocative and thought-provoking and kind of, uh, riballed. 23:39.883 --> 23:40.123 Yeah. 23:40.423 --> 23:41.764 But I bet you he thinks that. 23:42.404 --> 23:46.126 Well, I mean, I don't know that he thinks that, but I think maybe he does think that. 23:46.286 --> 23:47.507 You're either a live music person. 23:47.527 --> 23:49.128 I mean, we talked about this before, haven't we? 23:49.148 --> 23:56.952 But, you know, John Lennon in an interview, he said when he was talking to Bob Harris on one of those old Grey Whistle Test shows, 23:57.712 --> 24:02.376 that he didn't like going to see live music because it didn't sound like it did on the record. 24:02.597 --> 24:10.804 And his experience with falling in love with music was listening to the records and loving the production and that one moment of magic sort of captured in the studio. 24:11.324 --> 24:12.846 I think that might be what Nick was saying. 24:12.926 --> 24:13.186 Yeah. 24:13.386 --> 24:18.691 But if you feel that same way, then you wouldn't have liked that flaming lips track, the session track. 24:19.332 --> 24:19.592 Right. 24:20.072 --> 24:21.774 You wouldn't like any of the hub sessions. 24:22.034 --> 24:23.635 Yeah, but sometimes you get something different, though. 24:23.655 --> 24:24.416 This is the thing, isn't it? 24:24.436 --> 24:27.117 If you're a good band, an interesting band, you might add a little extra nugget. 24:27.417 --> 24:27.918 That's true. 24:28.038 --> 24:32.561 Like, if you're Sting, and you're doing old police numbers, why not do them jazz funk stars? 24:32.621 --> 24:34.262 That is a good idea. 24:34.762 --> 24:34.982 Exactly. 24:35.002 --> 24:44.828 You see, I loved it when I went to see Joe Jackson back in the day, and he had remodeled all his pubby punk classics as kind of Calypso numbers and reggae numbers. 24:44.868 --> 24:45.049 Fantastic. 24:45.349 --> 24:47.670 Why not play your hits really fast? 24:47.930 --> 24:48.151 Yeah. 24:48.431 --> 24:49.571 Why not double the tempo? 24:49.812 --> 24:49.972 Uh-huh. 24:50.612 --> 24:53.535 Why not get members of the audience to come up and sing your favourite? 24:53.775 --> 24:59.420 Why not not be able to hit the high notes and change the vocal register of certain bits of the vocal? 24:59.840 --> 25:00.721 Very nice idea. 25:01.101 --> 25:10.769 Why not, like Bobo Williams at Glastonbury, just refuse to sing large chunks of your favourite hit and just point the microphone at the audience as if that's going to be in any way enjoyable? 25:10.949 --> 25:14.773 All good options to make live music distinct from recorded music. 25:15.053 --> 25:15.393 Brilliant. 25:15.714 --> 25:16.174 Brilliant. 25:16.234 --> 25:17.235 We've solved some problems. 25:17.475 --> 25:21.379 Here's a bit more recorded music, studio recorded music. 25:21.419 --> 25:27.364 This is Cassabian with Vlad the Impaler and this has got an exciting video starring Noel Fielding. 25:27.724 --> 25:29.206 Directed by Richard Ioannoni. 25:29.366 --> 25:29.726 Really? 25:29.746 --> 25:29.886 Yeah. 25:30.086 --> 25:37.393 And he's loitering around a field with a big stake and impaling people. 25:37.733 --> 25:40.256 Very much like the eponymous hero. 25:40.896 --> 25:41.696 Vlad the Impaler. 25:41.796 --> 25:42.017 Yeah. 25:42.677 --> 25:42.957 Is it good? 25:42.977 --> 25:43.657 I haven't seen the video. 25:43.677 --> 25:44.338 Yeah, it's good. 25:44.578 --> 25:44.798 Yeah. 25:44.978 --> 25:46.058 It's Grindhouse style. 25:46.238 --> 25:46.458 Right. 25:46.879 --> 25:47.039 Yeah. 25:47.059 --> 25:49.420 Are they going for the horror or the comedy? 25:49.440 --> 25:49.960 A bit of both. 25:50.660 --> 25:52.181 Some good moustaches in there. 25:52.261 --> 25:52.481 Yeah. 25:52.601 --> 25:53.541 If you like moustaches. 25:53.621 --> 25:55.662 Anyway, this is Cosabian with Vlad the Impaler. 25:56.483 --> 25:59.824 This is the voice of the big, pretty castle. 25:59.904 --> 26:02.065 It is the top of the hour. 26:02.185 --> 26:03.626 Ooh, that's wonderful. 26:03.846 --> 26:05.967 I got so bored with the last hour. 26:11.810 --> 26:14.212 That was Maps by The Yeah Yeah Yeahs. 26:14.292 --> 26:16.894 Their new album is supposed to be an absolute smash. 26:17.094 --> 26:17.374 Really? 26:17.475 --> 26:19.296 Are they playing at the Camden thing? 26:19.436 --> 26:19.876 They are. 26:19.917 --> 26:21.097 They're at the Camden Crawl. 26:21.178 --> 26:22.519 Yeah, we're going to be their listeners. 26:22.559 --> 26:28.704 The Camden Crawl is an exciting event that you can simply find out about on the internet or on the BBC 6 Music website. 26:28.744 --> 26:30.245 The four are going to be playing at the Camden 26:30.345 --> 26:30.685 Wow. 26:30.786 --> 26:32.848 I might go and try and bother Mark E. Smith, you know. 26:32.868 --> 26:33.508 That's a good idea. 26:33.528 --> 26:39.034 Because we haven't seen him since the olden days when we did a Final Justice with him for the Adam and Joe show. 26:39.234 --> 26:40.095 I'm scared of him. 26:40.135 --> 26:40.916 He tried to kill me. 26:41.096 --> 26:41.357 He did. 26:41.377 --> 26:42.698 He put a plastic bag over Joe's head. 26:42.718 --> 26:43.299 He tried to suffocate me. 26:43.319 --> 26:43.959 He didn't like me. 26:44.220 --> 26:47.063 I think it's because I told him I didn't really know his music. 26:47.732 --> 26:48.833 It was a strange meeting. 26:48.893 --> 26:56.697 We were dressed as policemen with Nick Berry badges on and records on top of our heads, and the idea was to pretend that we were looking through M.E. 26:57.437 --> 26:58.758 Smith's music collection. 26:58.838 --> 27:03.701 However, he didn't want us to come to Manchester to do it in his real house, so we faked it up. 27:04.061 --> 27:05.702 Something that you could not do these days. 27:05.822 --> 27:06.022 No. 27:06.302 --> 27:13.226 We faked it up in my flat in Clarkhamwell, where I used to live, and he came round to my tiny little basement flat 27:13.846 --> 27:19.830 And we turned up there with our DVD cameras to do a bit of filming. 27:20.350 --> 27:23.272 And he came in and he was very well behaved for the first hour or so. 27:23.292 --> 27:24.552 He'd brought a few records with him. 27:25.133 --> 27:34.999 But then after a while, after we'd had a couple of complimentary vodkas, he got very quiet and started staring out the window and didn't want to do any more talking. 27:35.479 --> 27:38.581 And so we were trying to establish whether he was angry or what. 27:39.201 --> 27:41.283 And then after a while, he just got very cantankerous. 27:41.323 --> 27:55.012 And one of the things he did was to amuse himself and us, I think, he put a plastic bag over Joe's head, sat him down, like forced him down onto the couch, sat on his head while he was smoking a ciggy. 27:55.132 --> 27:55.973 This was happening as well. 27:55.993 --> 27:58.135 So Joe was a little worried about being burned apart from anything else. 27:58.495 --> 28:01.297 And then he started smacking Joe's head through the plastic bag. 28:01.477 --> 28:03.618 Do you think it was a way of trying to show affection? 28:04.139 --> 28:04.999 I think it might be. 28:05.160 --> 28:06.641 That's what he's like in his world. 28:07.341 --> 28:09.162 That's a very deep sign of affection. 28:09.182 --> 28:11.202 Maybe he wanted to impress me. 28:11.623 --> 28:11.823 Right. 28:11.863 --> 28:14.324 You know, he knew he knew you were a big fan. 28:15.024 --> 28:16.785 He knew I was a bit indifferent. 28:17.245 --> 28:17.425 Yeah. 28:17.525 --> 28:19.465 So maybe he secretly wanted to win me over. 28:19.826 --> 28:20.066 Right. 28:20.246 --> 28:21.026 Maybe we can ask him. 28:21.686 --> 28:24.267 So, yeah, I might go up and say hello just for old time's sake. 28:24.647 --> 28:26.688 I wonder what mood he'll be in. 28:27.048 --> 28:28.909 You can never tell with Mr. Smith. 28:29.609 --> 28:32.630 Silent, furious, melancholy, violent. 28:32.830 --> 28:33.811 He doesn't give much away. 28:34.471 --> 28:40.836 I mean, I don't think he's really very interested in the whole business of socialising extracurricular socialisation, but I'm still excited to see the fall. 28:40.916 --> 28:49.242 Yeah, that's an exciting prospect, and for more information about the Camden Crawl and Six Musics activities therein, just check out the Six Music website. 28:49.962 --> 28:50.842 Here's a bit more music. 28:50.882 --> 28:58.844 This is from the Super Furry Animals forthcoming album, their ninth studio album, called Dark Days, forward slash Light Years. 28:59.364 --> 29:03.786 And Franz Ferdinand's Nick McCarthy performs a spoken word piece in the track. 29:03.826 --> 29:04.446 Is that exciting? 29:04.486 --> 29:05.026 That is exciting. 29:05.046 --> 29:05.606 I've never heard this. 29:05.626 --> 29:06.306 I want to hear this. 29:06.366 --> 29:06.826 Let's hear it. 29:06.846 --> 29:09.547 This is the Super Furry Animals with Inaugural Tram. 29:10.811 --> 29:13.453 Super furry animals with inaugural trams. 29:14.273 --> 29:20.837 That was seemed to me to be a song about how critical transport is to the survival of the planet. 29:21.277 --> 29:28.202 How important it is that we, you know, develop public transport and trams and have integrated transport hubs. 29:28.622 --> 29:32.624 I'm pleased to see that phrase being used lyrically in contemporary music. 29:32.764 --> 29:33.785 Reduce emissions by 25%. 29:33.825 --> 29:33.905 Yeah. 29:36.366 --> 29:42.768 But it was difficult to know what was going on with the spoken word passage there, because Nick McCarthy spoke German there. 29:42.868 --> 29:43.789 Very nice German. 29:44.209 --> 29:44.809 What was he saying? 29:44.849 --> 29:46.250 Do you have a grasp of German? 29:46.310 --> 29:47.490 Well, I could hear the counting. 29:47.530 --> 29:48.370 There was a lot of numbers in there. 29:48.390 --> 29:51.251 Yeah, there was something about sexuality or something. 29:51.451 --> 29:54.232 No, wir fum sech sieben nacht. 29:54.332 --> 29:56.393 So that's five, six, seven, eight. 29:57.373 --> 29:59.234 I immediately thought it was sexy. 30:00.414 --> 30:01.815 Well, it might be sexy as well. 30:02.455 --> 30:04.156 But I mean, that's pretty insane. 30:04.636 --> 30:09.139 Don't you think that song, like on the Nutty Scale, is, I would say, a nine? 30:09.259 --> 30:10.139 Yes, but intelligent. 30:10.719 --> 30:11.880 Oh, I'm not putting it down. 30:12.060 --> 30:14.661 And musically, I mean, that's going to be a good album, isn't it? 30:14.941 --> 30:15.421 You would think so. 30:15.441 --> 30:16.262 I bet it's a good album. 30:16.302 --> 30:17.843 Their albums always get very good reviews. 30:17.883 --> 30:23.105 It's hard to tell sometimes, like, you know, because they're one of those bands that people have so much affection for. 30:23.625 --> 30:24.926 They find it hard to be critical. 30:25.286 --> 30:27.007 You think they get an easy ride. 30:27.387 --> 30:28.188 Critically, yeah. 30:28.208 --> 30:31.090 I mean, well, it's a good thing because I'm glad they exist. 30:31.431 --> 30:32.231 Sorry to interrupt. 30:33.112 --> 30:36.495 Do you think you could produce a piece of music that's really awful? 30:37.476 --> 30:41.239 And I'm not saying this is true of the super furry animals in any shape or form. 30:41.259 --> 30:41.920 No, I like that song. 30:41.960 --> 30:50.507 But theoretically, could you produce a piece of music that has all the correct bells and whistles to please a critic, but there is a stinky old load of old stuff. 30:50.527 --> 30:51.188 Happens all the time. 30:51.488 --> 30:52.489 So what would you need? 30:52.589 --> 30:59.393 Clever lyrics about something sophisticated, maybe a romantic author, or something obscure from history? 31:00.054 --> 31:01.114 Particular noises? 31:01.675 --> 31:07.739 Super furries, they go for kind of crazy, fairground, sort of so juvenile that it comes around the other way. 31:08.279 --> 31:09.660 Well, they're magpies though, aren't they? 31:10.160 --> 31:14.863 They veer stylistically from place to place in an extraordinary way. 31:16.244 --> 31:17.585 But yes, easily. 31:17.765 --> 31:18.765 I mean, it happens all the time. 31:18.805 --> 31:23.267 You just have to flick through the enemy to look at bands who've just got the right bits in the right order. 31:23.467 --> 31:28.368 If we had some sort of songwriting contest on the show, that could be like a theme. 31:28.768 --> 31:29.429 Yeah. 31:29.569 --> 31:32.730 To write a piece of song for song... Write a piece of song? 31:33.050 --> 31:33.610 Yes. 31:33.630 --> 31:39.372 To write a piece of song that is... Oh, shut up. 31:39.872 --> 31:40.232 Anyway. 31:41.572 --> 31:42.673 Let's move on. 31:42.734 --> 31:44.135 It's time for your free choice. 31:44.175 --> 31:45.436 You just exhausted yourself. 31:45.876 --> 31:46.817 You got bored of myself. 31:46.837 --> 31:47.498 It does happen. 31:47.938 --> 31:51.622 Yes, listeners, I've got a bit of music from The Doors. 31:51.802 --> 31:52.703 Now, I love The Doors. 31:53.023 --> 32:01.651 This is from one of their albums, which actually, talking about critics, was not critically well received and is still considered the worst Doors album by a lot of people. 32:02.271 --> 32:03.592 and it's soft parade. 32:03.672 --> 32:07.175 But I've got a very big soft spot for it, a big soft parade spot. 32:07.615 --> 32:11.058 And this is a track on it that goes on a little bit too long. 32:11.658 --> 32:12.959 But I'm really setting this up well, aren't I? 32:12.979 --> 32:13.960 I'm really selling this one. 32:14.060 --> 32:15.521 I'm excited about it. 32:15.861 --> 32:16.862 But it is a good track. 32:17.262 --> 32:18.623 It's called Shaman's Blues. 32:18.663 --> 32:19.324 This is The Doors. 32:19.980 --> 32:23.343 This is Adam and Jo on BBC6 Music on Saturday. 32:23.543 --> 32:24.284 That's the day it is. 32:24.504 --> 32:32.392 Yeah, this is a pre-recorded show, listeners, so please don't email or text us for this show because we're not here at this very moment. 32:32.752 --> 32:36.976 If you're a regular listener, you might be missing the features in this programme. 32:37.156 --> 32:39.057 You might think, well where's Text the Nation? 32:39.158 --> 32:40.739 What about some structure? 32:40.939 --> 32:42.240 What about some song wars? 32:42.380 --> 32:48.545 Or one of our favourite two regular features that recur relentlessly? 32:49.425 --> 32:52.508 You might be worried by the sort of freeform rambling nature of this. 32:53.048 --> 32:53.408 Don't be. 32:53.789 --> 32:56.110 It's because it's Easter. 32:56.951 --> 33:01.454 And it's traditional at Easter not to have any features in radio shows. 33:02.870 --> 33:05.651 It was a thing that happened in ancient Rome. 33:05.731 --> 33:07.291 What noises are you making for that? 33:07.311 --> 33:08.011 I'm in sick. 33:08.031 --> 33:10.632 Because I'm so upset by lack of features. 33:11.212 --> 33:13.052 Don't be sick. 33:14.773 --> 33:16.873 That in and of itself is a feature. 33:17.373 --> 33:20.094 So listen, let's talk about something serious instead. 33:20.114 --> 33:22.934 You know when you buy clothes and you need to try them on? 33:23.134 --> 33:23.735 I can remember. 33:23.975 --> 33:25.455 And you go into a changing room? 33:25.655 --> 33:25.835 Sure. 33:26.075 --> 33:27.676 And there's no mirror in the changing room. 33:28.657 --> 33:31.239 And you put your new pair of trusons on. 33:31.379 --> 33:34.661 Because you're expected to go out of the changing room and that's what I'm getting to. 33:34.861 --> 33:46.509 So you've got a new pair of trusons, or a jocket, and you pop it on and in the changing room, which is already slightly disturbing, you know, standing around in your knickknocks in a weird cubicle. 33:46.529 --> 33:46.909 Sexy. 33:47.230 --> 33:47.570 Sexy. 33:48.150 --> 33:53.134 And then you want to see a reflection of yourself to see how the jockets and the knickknocks and the pantaloons look. 33:53.194 --> 33:55.116 And the trojans. 33:55.636 --> 33:59.460 So you have to usually step outside the changing room and go to some sort of mirror. 33:59.760 --> 33:59.980 Yes. 34:00.140 --> 34:04.624 That is usually very publicly placed in the middle of the shop floor. 34:04.664 --> 34:05.284 That's right. 34:05.364 --> 34:10.989 You usually don't have your shoes on because who would put their shoes back on just to check the fit of a pair of trousers? 34:11.209 --> 34:11.730 Only a boar. 34:12.470 --> 34:17.435 So you end up, also you might have a piece of clothing that overhangs the top of the trousers. 34:17.735 --> 34:19.516 Also the trousers might not even look good on you. 34:19.537 --> 34:20.998 You might look like an absolute wally. 34:21.098 --> 34:30.506 With all these things going against you, you open the door to your cubicle and you stride boldly out onto the shop floor where other customers are free to look at you and make judgments. 34:30.766 --> 34:31.467 Look at that idiot. 34:31.527 --> 34:32.888 Because that's what happens. 34:32.928 --> 34:38.410 You go up to the mirror and you look at yourself and then do you or do you not do some little poses? 34:38.550 --> 34:38.830 Sure. 34:39.451 --> 34:42.612 And are or are they not everyone else in the shop? 34:42.892 --> 34:44.033 This isn't a very good sentence. 34:44.893 --> 34:45.593 Looking at you. 34:46.614 --> 34:48.895 Are or are they not everyone else in the shop? 34:49.095 --> 34:51.076 Looking at you, yeah. 34:51.596 --> 34:52.517 Is that not the case? 34:52.858 --> 34:54.239 Yeah, checking out your posing. 34:54.500 --> 34:57.003 Usually thinking, they don't look very good. 34:58.384 --> 34:59.506 Your bum looks big in that. 34:59.866 --> 35:08.417 And then usually you have to, one has to, you have to pull off your shirt a bit to see the waist, to see how the bottom looks, the Botox. 35:09.698 --> 35:10.718 Does that not happen to you? 35:10.918 --> 35:11.599 Yes, of course. 35:11.699 --> 35:14.140 And do you go over the top on the posing to make a joke out of it? 35:15.501 --> 35:17.983 Sometimes I make it a little bit silly, yeah, or I grin. 35:18.643 --> 35:22.005 Usually I like to have someone else there, like my lady girlfriend partner. 35:22.105 --> 35:27.128 Then it's very easy because you can talk to her, you feel secure, you make funny faces. 35:27.368 --> 35:27.768 Exactly. 35:27.788 --> 35:30.170 When you're on your own, it's terrifying. 35:30.790 --> 35:35.773 that when you're on your own the public in the store becomes your audience and you're performing for them 35:43.438 --> 35:45.100 You're being really supportive of this one. 35:45.541 --> 35:45.901 Thank you. 35:46.181 --> 35:46.922 That's really good. 35:47.082 --> 35:48.223 No, listen, I'm serious. 35:48.343 --> 35:49.484 Yeah, get started. 35:49.685 --> 35:50.906 Oh, Joe. 35:50.926 --> 35:51.607 Joe, Joe Cornish. 35:51.647 --> 35:52.888 Cornballs, admiral. 35:52.928 --> 35:57.693 You know, I feel I've identified a brilliant little corner of human paranoia. 35:57.733 --> 35:58.113 You have. 35:58.433 --> 36:04.099 What I do is I never have the presence of mind to make a joke out of it and do like a... 36:05.180 --> 36:06.760 ostentatiously silly pose. 36:07.481 --> 36:10.181 And what I do is I look absolute, I scurry out. 36:10.981 --> 36:17.263 I sneak a glance at myself in the mirror, probably not even long enough to establish whether the trousers really do look good or not. 36:17.743 --> 36:24.925 And then I scurry back in, sort of thinking, trying to recall in my mind the image of myself in the mirror wearing the new, was it good? 36:25.245 --> 36:25.965 I can't remember. 36:26.505 --> 36:32.208 I'm too embarrassed to scurry out for another one because I'm so embarrassed about the whole business. 36:32.769 --> 36:35.090 Just get out of there. 36:35.550 --> 36:36.331 Well, this is what happens. 36:36.491 --> 36:38.232 Usually, I never buy trousers. 36:38.252 --> 36:40.633 I've had the same pair of trousers for about the last 10 years. 36:41.074 --> 36:46.337 In fact, I bought some recently, but the thing is that I scurried out and took such a brief look 36:46.877 --> 36:48.739 that I completely misjudged it. 36:48.759 --> 36:49.259 They were awful. 36:49.279 --> 36:50.060 They didn't even fit. 36:50.800 --> 36:54.963 Were those the big red Arabian Nights ones you wore for a long period? 36:54.983 --> 36:57.105 That's the ones, yeah, with the big stars on them. 37:00.127 --> 37:00.968 Yeah, they were no good. 37:01.288 --> 37:03.050 You wore them for years. 37:03.930 --> 37:07.173 And yet some people have absolutely no qualms about this kind of thing. 37:07.193 --> 37:08.414 I was on the train the other day, right? 37:09.054 --> 37:15.059 And this lady, she reached up to the luggage rack to retrieve her newspaper or something. 37:15.299 --> 37:16.080 She was elderly. 37:16.620 --> 37:23.006 And the fellow sitting on the chair across the aisle, who was absolutely a big fat man, right? 37:23.686 --> 37:24.907 And there's no question about it. 37:24.987 --> 37:25.447 Yeah. 37:25.487 --> 37:26.768 He wouldn't be upset if I said that. 37:26.788 --> 37:28.289 The elderly and the fat. 37:28.329 --> 37:28.549 Yeah. 37:29.490 --> 37:31.691 And... They're in your band. 37:33.872 --> 37:37.215 What are you writing down? 37:37.235 --> 37:39.736 You know, they just seem like good targets. 37:40.136 --> 37:41.057 They're not targets. 37:41.157 --> 37:43.478 They happen to come into this conversation. 37:43.498 --> 37:44.319 I'm joking, of course. 37:44.839 --> 37:48.722 Oh, you've made me look like I'm targeting the elderly and the fat, which I'm absolutely not. 37:48.962 --> 37:49.542 Cut this bit out. 37:52.384 --> 37:55.625 It says Joe, thinking, this is a pre-record, we can loosen the embarrassing stuff. 37:56.245 --> 38:03.087 So the fellow sitting across on the other side of the aisle, who was, let me say, a portly gentleman, he was massively fat. 38:03.887 --> 38:09.689 He gets up, right, and he very nicely says, oh, let me help you with that to the lady. 38:10.349 --> 38:14.550 And so he reaches up for the newspaper, he reaches over her, right? 38:15.410 --> 38:24.194 so that the lady has to lean right back in her seat to avoid his massive belly which is spilled out from his t-shirt that he was wearing, right? 38:24.474 --> 38:35.519 The t-shirt just rode right up over his huge belly and he was shoving it right in this woman's face while he was reaching for the paper. 38:35.539 --> 38:36.880 She was going, no, no, it's okay. 38:37.280 --> 38:38.280 It's okay. 38:38.360 --> 38:38.861 I can get it. 38:39.161 --> 38:40.321 No, no, that's all right. 38:40.361 --> 38:41.562 Let me help you. 38:43.362 --> 38:45.523 Nice sound effect. 38:45.563 --> 38:51.704 Maybe he volunteers for jobs like that because it gives him a bit of physical contact. 38:51.784 --> 38:52.104 Maybe. 38:52.884 --> 39:06.707 He seemed like a really nice man, but he wasn't bothered at all about the... I'm not saying he should necessarily be bothered about his body size, but it just seemed pretty wild that he would be so unfussed by his shirt riding up. 39:07.647 --> 39:12.089 Just him doing this massive sexy belly dance on this whole lady. 39:13.190 --> 39:19.613 So there you go, trouser buying, fat people, the elderly, trains, all the main subjects of interest. 39:19.773 --> 39:22.035 You said fat people, that's very offensive, is it? 39:22.095 --> 39:22.415 Yeah. 39:23.095 --> 39:23.375 Why? 39:23.655 --> 39:25.837 Well, because it's... What should I have said, portly gentlemen? 39:26.117 --> 39:26.497 Yeah. 39:26.677 --> 39:26.957 Yeah. 39:27.017 --> 39:27.818 Dress it up somehow. 39:28.018 --> 39:28.338 Yeah. 39:28.998 --> 39:31.580 In a big pair of Arabian pantaloons. 39:31.620 --> 39:32.520 With stars on them. 39:32.860 --> 39:36.242 It's Adam and Jo here on BBC Six Music, it's 10.30 and it's time for the new... 39:36.772 --> 39:38.775 The Maccabees with Love You Better. 39:39.235 --> 39:40.237 Fun Maccabees fact. 39:40.457 --> 39:49.749 Guitarist Felix White was formerly in a band with close friend and current solo artist, Jack Piñate, with whom's music we started the show today. 39:49.930 --> 39:50.711 With whom's? 39:50.931 --> 39:51.151 Yeah. 39:52.012 --> 39:52.973 That's a good fact, man. 39:52.993 --> 39:53.734 Thank you. 39:53.774 --> 39:54.294 Well done. 39:54.314 --> 40:01.080 Do people on the street and stuff and your friends, do they pull you up on your grammatical errors that you make on this show? 40:01.440 --> 40:01.941 Not really. 40:02.201 --> 40:07.706 I think out of a lot of radio shows, this is probably one of the better spoken ones. 40:08.186 --> 40:20.931 Well, certainly accent-wise, but sometimes I know I'm often guilty of just using words wrongly or just getting like even earlier today I said criteria where I should have said criterion. 40:20.971 --> 40:21.531 Oh dear. 40:21.771 --> 40:23.331 My brother gets on my case about it. 40:23.672 --> 40:23.992 Does he? 40:24.212 --> 40:26.813 Yeah, he's a kind of Radio 4 dictionary bore. 40:27.053 --> 40:27.533 Is he now? 40:27.893 --> 40:28.594 Well, rightly so. 40:28.654 --> 40:29.714 It's good to talk proper. 40:30.495 --> 40:37.500 Otherwise, you know, you might be in a life or death situation where grammar and sentence construction is the key. 40:37.920 --> 40:40.502 For instance, I don't know what that situation would be. 40:40.522 --> 40:43.084 I think it's in Sharkboy and Lava Girl that happens. 40:43.184 --> 40:43.464 Really? 40:43.484 --> 40:44.945 Sylvester Stallone, is he? 40:45.145 --> 40:46.366 He's the villain in that, isn't he? 40:46.667 --> 40:48.128 No, he was in the previous one. 40:48.588 --> 40:51.010 He was in one of the Spy Kids movies. 40:51.670 --> 40:52.850 Spy Kids 3 and 3D. 40:53.250 --> 40:55.131 Wow, that's good knowledge. 40:55.231 --> 40:56.211 Good Rodriguez knowledge. 40:56.231 --> 40:57.471 Yeah, my children love him, man. 40:57.651 --> 40:57.911 Really? 40:57.931 --> 40:59.511 My children think Rodriguez is a genius. 40:59.591 --> 41:01.732 Even Sharkboy and Lavagirl went down there. 41:01.792 --> 41:02.212 Really? 41:02.312 --> 41:02.832 Oh, boy. 41:03.692 --> 41:11.554 But yes, you know, in there they do battle all kinds of academic style battle in a virtual world. 41:12.054 --> 41:14.734 And certainly a good grasp of grammar would have helped them. 41:14.774 --> 41:17.855 They should have some sort of test for kids. 41:18.795 --> 41:21.177 You know where they all get tested? 41:22.058 --> 41:24.420 Right, in like a big house. 41:24.900 --> 41:27.062 Yes, some sort of sports ball that really stinks. 41:27.402 --> 41:30.164 They should do it every two or three years, maybe. 41:30.404 --> 41:31.505 More often than that, I think. 41:31.525 --> 41:32.246 More often. 41:32.406 --> 41:37.290 Yeah, and the results of that test should then directly affect your success in life. 41:37.430 --> 41:42.534 Well, they should scare the little chaps into thinking that it will ruin your life if you do 41:42.634 --> 41:47.761 Yeah, the world is a meritocracy, a statistical meritocracy, and a statistocracy. 41:48.002 --> 41:50.986 And that these exams are absolutely important. 41:51.306 --> 41:52.688 I call them exams, right? 41:52.888 --> 41:53.189 Why? 41:54.090 --> 41:55.272 Because it has the X in it. 41:55.552 --> 41:55.852 Yes. 41:56.133 --> 41:58.917 And an X frightens a child, and that's good. 41:58.977 --> 41:59.117 Yeah. 42:00.118 --> 42:00.919 Well, that's a good idea. 42:00.959 --> 42:02.520 We should suggest that to the government. 42:02.700 --> 42:03.520 Right. 42:03.601 --> 42:04.341 Here's a free play. 42:04.381 --> 42:05.862 This is an exciting new band. 42:06.182 --> 42:07.983 They're called North Atlantic Oscillation. 42:08.424 --> 42:08.964 And you know what? 42:09.004 --> 42:10.325 They're so exciting and new. 42:11.486 --> 42:13.087 You can't get any albums by them. 42:13.507 --> 42:13.807 Really? 42:14.027 --> 42:16.529 Yeah, they released an EP, but it's all sold out. 42:17.130 --> 42:18.150 But I like this a lot. 42:18.651 --> 42:22.753 I've been playing it a lot and it's kind of got into my head like a weird disease. 42:23.214 --> 42:25.115 In fact, the other night I couldn't sleep. 42:25.715 --> 42:26.456 I had insomnia. 42:26.496 --> 42:27.536 Do you get that every now and then? 42:27.556 --> 42:28.137 Every now and again, yeah. 42:28.157 --> 42:29.678 For some reason, I just could not sleep. 42:30.378 --> 42:33.380 And this song kind of went round and round in my head. 42:33.500 --> 42:34.581 Like a feverish loop. 42:34.641 --> 42:35.081 Yeah. 42:35.341 --> 42:36.322 Does that ever happen to you? 42:36.402 --> 42:36.902 Very often. 42:36.962 --> 42:38.463 It drives me absolutely bananas. 42:38.483 --> 42:39.244 Well, I say very often. 42:39.264 --> 42:42.005 It happens almost always when I do have a fever. 42:42.165 --> 42:43.366 What is it about that? 42:43.406 --> 42:43.846 It's weird. 42:43.886 --> 42:47.368 But, you know, that would suggest that I'd gone off the song because it made me feel ill. 42:47.388 --> 42:47.849 But no. 42:48.269 --> 42:48.489 No. 42:48.809 --> 42:50.290 It's just taken root deep in my head. 42:50.330 --> 42:51.131 I really like it. 42:51.731 --> 42:53.532 It's called Alexanderplatz. 42:53.852 --> 42:55.213 How did you find out about this band? 42:55.493 --> 42:57.834 I went on a website called Art Rocker. 42:59.275 --> 43:04.016 and found out about some new, I think they're a Scottish band, some new Scottish bands. 43:04.056 --> 43:10.018 They were talking about bands that would sort of fill the shoes of the postcard bands that we liked in the 80s when we were kids. 43:10.398 --> 43:12.918 They were talking about bands that are kind of doing the same thing now. 43:13.379 --> 43:14.559 And this was one of those bands. 43:15.479 --> 43:16.339 So check this out. 43:16.379 --> 43:19.260 This is Alexander Platt by North Atlantic Oscillation. 43:20.165 --> 43:22.646 That was Snow Patrol with Ask Me How I Am. 43:22.686 --> 43:25.787 You're listening to Adam and Joe here on Saturday morning. 43:25.867 --> 43:26.527 Pre-recorded. 43:26.567 --> 43:27.327 He's not live. 43:27.387 --> 43:28.147 It's not live. 43:28.167 --> 43:28.847 It's not live. 43:28.887 --> 43:30.068 Don't go thinking this is live. 43:30.528 --> 43:32.448 You'd be deceiving yourself and the nation. 43:32.628 --> 43:33.149 That's right. 43:33.189 --> 43:36.389 And we wouldn't want to deceive you by making you think that it is live. 43:36.550 --> 43:37.210 Hate lies. 43:37.510 --> 43:40.771 Now, Joe, I don't know if you know this, but there's a podcast available of this program. 43:40.831 --> 43:41.071 Really? 43:41.231 --> 43:41.431 Yeah. 43:42.211 --> 43:44.392 And it comes out on a Tuesday morning. 43:44.432 --> 43:47.993 I think it has to go through rigorous checks for a couple of days. 43:48.673 --> 43:53.814 And when it comes out, it is delightfully received by many thousands of listeners. 43:54.294 --> 43:55.555 And we are very grateful for that fact. 43:55.575 --> 43:56.195 I didn't know that. 43:56.415 --> 44:00.756 However, Steve in Vancouver is not quite so happy. 44:00.836 --> 44:01.917 I don't like the sound of this. 44:02.117 --> 44:03.397 How do you do a Vancouver accent? 44:03.637 --> 44:07.218 You say aboot, don't you? 44:07.338 --> 44:07.878 I think you do. 44:10.559 --> 44:13.942 I can only listen to the podcast version of the show being in Vancouver. 44:13.962 --> 44:15.383 Hang on, that's just Tom Paulin. 44:16.163 --> 44:17.184 Or no, Mark Cousins. 44:17.464 --> 44:17.705 Is it? 44:18.325 --> 44:18.785 No, it's good, though. 44:18.805 --> 44:19.166 Keep going. 44:19.486 --> 44:20.807 Mark Cousins is like this. 44:20.927 --> 44:23.349 I can only listen to the podcast version of the show. 44:23.749 --> 44:24.610 No, I'm not going to do an accent. 44:24.870 --> 44:28.112 He says I can only listen to the podcast version of the show being in Vancouver. 44:28.453 --> 44:34.457 One thing I notice about your show and BBC shows in general is the lack of audio compression. 44:35.058 --> 44:38.680 A lot of people think that lots of dynamic range is a good thing. 44:38.760 --> 44:39.501 How do you feel about that, Joe? 44:40.321 --> 44:46.505 I don't have a strong opinion, but keep reading, but it's a pain when you're listening to an iPod via a car radio. 44:47.265 --> 44:54.769 When the two of you are feigning the sharing of a secret, for example, or something like that, your conversations get down to a whisper. 44:56.061 --> 45:20.360 now for example and to hear anything on the radio the volume has to be high up then one of you shouts like this and the car windows are blown out I'm sure both of you are completely familiar with compression but to illustrate and he sent us like a load of clips from recent shows that he's added various bits of different types of compression to to illustrate what he's talking about he's even sent graphs and waveforms Wow 45:20.620 --> 45:21.420 I didn't click on that. 45:21.480 --> 45:22.140 I read that email. 45:22.180 --> 45:23.901 I didn't click on the links, but you obviously did. 45:23.921 --> 45:26.442 And they, those things he specially devised for us. 45:27.242 --> 45:30.603 Well, he's just illustrating that we could benefit from a bit of compression. 45:30.623 --> 45:31.423 A bit more compression. 45:31.443 --> 45:33.384 But I think it's out of our hands, Steve. 45:33.404 --> 45:36.765 You know, that's BBC policy, perhaps not to do compression like that. 45:37.205 --> 45:38.206 I'm really sorry about that. 45:38.446 --> 45:40.788 I think it's completely out of our hands! 45:41.709 --> 45:43.050 There goes Steve's windows again. 45:43.550 --> 45:43.770 Yeah. 45:43.951 --> 45:50.436 That was a little fun fact though for compression queens out there, if you're... Compression queens, poor old Steve. 45:50.776 --> 45:52.297 No, you know, I'm a bit of a compression queen. 45:52.317 --> 45:56.041 I used to get really upset about it in the early days of doing this show when the levels were wrong. 45:56.441 --> 45:59.063 Sometimes the levels are different. 45:59.103 --> 46:00.724 Sometimes they're different between mics. 46:00.864 --> 46:04.628 Some weeks I'm really loud and you're really quiet and I just want myself to shut up. 46:05.629 --> 46:14.808 But that's not to in any way diminish the extraordinary work of our producers who do everything within their power to make it sound as well as good as possible. 46:14.928 --> 46:16.171 How do you feel about compression, Ben? 46:18.849 --> 46:19.710 There you go, that's Ben. 46:20.131 --> 46:21.232 He just decompressed. 46:21.292 --> 46:29.002 Just had a massive release of compression and like a balloon and he's sunk in a... Don't bring up compression when Ben's around. 46:29.022 --> 46:30.183 He absolutely detests it. 46:30.424 --> 46:32.046 So sorry, Steve, in Vancouver. 46:32.086 --> 46:32.807 We can't help you. 46:36.476 --> 46:39.898 That was Alessi's ark with Over the Hill and she certainly is not over the hill because she's only 18. 46:39.939 --> 46:41.640 She'll be over the hill next year. 46:42.040 --> 46:45.162 She's from West London and that's her first official single release. 46:45.182 --> 46:46.223 What a cynical thing to say. 46:46.784 --> 46:52.608 That's suggesting that contemporary pop artists only have a sort of fashionable life of about a year. 46:52.628 --> 46:55.270 Suggesting that the music biz just chews them up and spits them out. 46:55.290 --> 46:57.611 Yeah, what a reductive and cynical thing to say. 46:57.631 --> 46:59.753 Very, very cynical, especially to a young talented 46:59.873 --> 47:01.634 artist beginning of an exciting career. 47:01.694 --> 47:06.176 And especially on a radio station that specialises in supporting and growing new music. 47:06.316 --> 47:10.378 I mean what a pathetic silly old thing to say. 47:10.418 --> 47:11.318 What an idiot hole. 47:11.538 --> 47:12.699 You are an idiot hole. 47:12.899 --> 47:15.680 Her debut album Notes from the Treehouse is available now. 47:16.601 --> 47:18.944 She's got a very extraordinary way of singing though, doesn't she? 47:19.264 --> 47:19.685 She does. 47:19.745 --> 47:22.609 It's all the rage, isn't it? 47:22.889 --> 47:29.438 Like, you think maybe she's Icelandic or something, but then you realise she's got a kind of landing accent. 47:29.659 --> 47:31.481 Well, she might have a mild speech impediment. 47:32.102 --> 47:32.843 I don't think she does. 47:32.923 --> 47:35.545 She's enunciating, but just in a very particular way. 47:35.745 --> 47:41.430 It's important to have a sort of memorable way of singing if you're a young artist these days, isn't it? 47:41.450 --> 47:41.770 Yeah, of course. 47:41.790 --> 47:43.732 Especially if you're a young lady artiste. 47:43.892 --> 47:44.933 Have you got any little quirks? 47:49.355 --> 47:52.437 So some of the words you're saying are real and some of them are made up. 47:52.757 --> 47:53.477 None of them are real. 47:53.597 --> 47:57.900 It makes it easier to... Like Sigiros. 47:59.120 --> 47:59.741 It's a little bit. 47:59.781 --> 48:01.662 Basically I'm Nell from the film Nell. 48:02.182 --> 48:03.142 Okay, yes. 48:03.423 --> 48:03.763 Singing. 48:04.503 --> 48:06.124 Imagine if Nell had a singing career. 48:06.264 --> 48:09.186 If you haven't seen the film Nell, do get hold of it. 48:09.306 --> 48:10.626 It is kind of a comedy classic. 48:10.646 --> 48:11.447 Quite extraordinary. 48:11.947 --> 48:14.129 That's a good idea though, that's a nice way of singing. 48:14.229 --> 48:19.794 Yeah, I mean when we were at school parents used to pay a lot of money to give their kids elocution lessons so they would speak properly. 48:20.215 --> 48:23.238 If you do that these days you are robbing your daughter of a singing career. 48:23.698 --> 48:26.741 Right, you should cultivate the little weirdness in her voice. 48:26.761 --> 48:27.762 Exactly, just buy her a guitar. 48:28.582 --> 48:30.524 She'll be a millionaire by the time she's 19. 48:32.131 --> 48:38.518 Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, I... What's this? 48:38.558 --> 48:39.098 I don't know. 48:39.198 --> 48:39.659 I'm riffing. 48:39.699 --> 48:42.102 I'm trying to find my way of singing. 48:42.282 --> 48:42.562 Right. 48:44.424 --> 48:46.366 Well, that's a very manly voice. 48:46.507 --> 48:48.429 I mean, I thought we were talking about ladies. 48:48.769 --> 48:49.389 No, no, no, no, no. 48:49.429 --> 48:51.530 Well, yeah, this is a lady doing a manly voice. 48:51.610 --> 48:51.890 Right. 48:52.550 --> 48:54.930 Well, you've got it instantly there. 48:55.450 --> 48:59.431 You know, like they say about singers, oh, I thought he was black. 48:59.511 --> 49:01.852 It turns out he's a white guy or vice versa. 49:02.032 --> 49:03.212 Oh, I thought that was a bloke. 49:03.272 --> 49:04.873 Turns out it's a woman. 49:05.113 --> 49:05.253 Yeah. 49:05.533 --> 49:07.733 Oh, I thought that was a white woman. 49:07.753 --> 49:12.494 Turns out it was a black guy from New Orleans. 49:16.095 --> 49:17.716 That doesn't make any sense at all, does it? 49:17.856 --> 49:18.996 Oh, it's a good idea, though. 49:19.016 --> 49:19.656 It's nonsense. 49:20.876 --> 49:21.997 Sorry, I'm getting a bit addled. 49:22.617 --> 49:26.238 The thing is that I'm so excited about my Easter eggs that my brain's wondering. 49:26.398 --> 49:29.359 Oh, there's a lot of chocky chomping coming up tomorrow. 49:29.699 --> 49:30.960 Listen, here's a little bit of blur. 49:31.000 --> 49:31.780 This is pop scene. 49:32.480 --> 49:36.061 This is the voice of the big, pretty castle. 49:36.161 --> 49:38.062 It is the top of the hour. 49:38.122 --> 49:39.622 Ooh, that's wonderful. 49:39.822 --> 49:42.023 I got support with the last hour. 49:47.658 --> 49:51.561 That's Morrissey with something is squeezing my skull. 49:52.482 --> 49:54.064 His hat's too small maybe? 49:54.384 --> 49:55.965 Or his headphones are on too tight? 49:56.886 --> 49:57.747 Yeah, exactly. 49:58.087 --> 50:02.652 Or someone's just got a squeezer and they're using it to squeeze his skull. 50:02.972 --> 50:04.033 That's my Morrissey impression. 50:04.073 --> 50:05.214 That's good, is it? 50:06.695 --> 50:07.876 That's out on April the 27th. 50:07.896 --> 50:09.097 It's his new single. 50:09.117 --> 50:12.620 It's taken from his new album, Years of Refusal, which was released in February. 50:12.740 --> 50:14.561 As if listeners to this show wouldn't know that. 50:15.082 --> 50:15.882 So, Jocornish. 50:16.243 --> 50:16.403 Yeah. 50:16.583 --> 50:19.465 A few weeks ago on the show, I was ranting about litter. 50:20.126 --> 50:26.911 I wish to talk about it again, do a litter update, because, Joe, I had my first successful litter confrontation. 50:27.191 --> 50:27.611 Really? 50:27.651 --> 50:28.412 With some Utes. 50:29.052 --> 50:29.233 Ute. 50:29.873 --> 50:31.454 And I fear utes, right? 50:31.594 --> 50:33.155 Everyone, everyone sensible fears. 50:33.835 --> 50:34.155 I don't. 50:34.335 --> 50:35.035 Of a certain age. 50:35.055 --> 50:35.616 I like them. 50:36.376 --> 50:39.317 Well, you should fear them because, you know, they wear hoodies and they're a threat to society. 50:39.597 --> 50:40.378 Obviously, I'm joking. 50:40.418 --> 50:42.339 I'm doing a clever parody of people's... Right. 50:42.379 --> 50:43.179 The truth is you like them. 50:43.379 --> 50:44.199 I'm afraid of them. 50:44.279 --> 50:44.960 Exactly. 50:45.200 --> 50:45.420 Yeah. 50:45.900 --> 50:56.109 But I saw I was at Cambridge station the other day on my way home to Norfolk after the show and There were some young people I would say aged it was a gang of around 10, right? 50:57.009 --> 51:11.141 10 young people aged between about 11 and and to well, no, but they were quite young they were aged between about 11 and 16 but still fairly right on the cusp of being sort of quite intimidating especially as a big gang 11 and 51:12.372 --> 51:12.792 No, no, no. 51:12.932 --> 51:14.593 They were around 11 to 16. 51:15.153 --> 51:15.393 Right. 51:15.933 --> 51:16.073 And 12. 51:17.533 --> 51:18.373 There was a lot of them. 51:18.393 --> 51:22.995 Nee, nee, nee, nee, nee, nee, sub-command, arms, torpedo. 51:23.015 --> 51:23.215 No, no, no. 51:23.235 --> 51:27.416 I'm just trying to make it seem like a less threatening situation in my head. 51:27.856 --> 51:34.177 They were not only dropping litter, they were throwing it in a kind of, with a flourish, a cavalier flourish. 51:34.197 --> 51:35.438 Enjoying the throwing of litter. 51:35.458 --> 51:36.598 Enjoying the littering. 51:37.418 --> 51:42.063 And so I watched it for a little bit and I just thought, oh, this is too much, you know, this is too much to bear. 51:42.443 --> 51:50.952 And I missed the first, like I missed the opportunity to say something after the first couple of times because the litter was blowing all over the platform onto the tracks and stuff like that. 51:51.693 --> 51:52.294 And I thought, oh. 51:52.594 --> 51:56.178 I've got to say something, because this is just flagrant, outrageous littering. 51:56.318 --> 51:57.920 And it is so depressing to see that. 51:58.261 --> 51:58.942 What did you say? 51:59.462 --> 52:03.307 So after a while, this guy, I waited till one of the really small ones did it. 52:03.987 --> 52:09.434 And then I went up and I said, hey, hey, hey, why are you just throwing that away onto the track then? 52:09.474 --> 52:11.116 Why don't you just put it in the bin? 52:11.817 --> 52:12.377 What are you doing? 52:13.118 --> 52:17.921 Immediately, they all go quiet and they all look at this one guy and see how he's going to respond, right? 52:18.302 --> 52:22.584 And he sort of looks around and he's a bit rattled and he sort of tries to ignore me. 52:22.885 --> 52:24.686 So I go, hey, hey, I'm talking to you. 52:25.206 --> 52:27.368 Why do you have to... And I try not to be aggressive, right? 52:27.388 --> 52:28.869 You want to embarrass the guy. 52:28.929 --> 52:30.830 I say, why are you throwing your litter down there? 52:30.910 --> 52:31.530 Don't do that. 52:31.590 --> 52:32.791 Someone else has got to pick it up. 52:33.151 --> 52:39.336 What makes you so special that you can just throw things on the ground and then someone else has to come and pick them up? 52:39.396 --> 52:40.496 Why are you so special? 52:40.897 --> 52:42.798 So he looks at his mates and then he turns to me and goes, 52:43.318 --> 52:44.399 Because I'm the king's son. 52:44.419 --> 52:46.261 And that's a good answer. 52:46.341 --> 52:46.902 Good comeback. 52:47.142 --> 52:47.382 Yeah. 52:47.803 --> 52:49.844 And I said to him, well that's a very good answer. 52:50.505 --> 52:51.746 However, you're not the king's son. 52:52.207 --> 52:54.969 And the fact is that someone else does have to pick it up. 52:55.049 --> 52:55.870 That's disappointing. 52:55.910 --> 52:59.273 I would have thought you could have come back with something wittier like... What would you have gone for? 52:59.293 --> 53:00.434 Well alright Prince William. 53:01.215 --> 53:02.516 Get off your hockey horse. 53:03.317 --> 53:06.919 My wits weren't functioning at full capacity because I was quite nervous. 53:08.059 --> 53:09.880 I was a little keyed up. 53:10.180 --> 53:15.002 But then one of the guys, and there was a lot of girls who were looking around, and they weren't so happy about it. 53:15.302 --> 53:16.623 They were the lippiest about it, right? 53:16.983 --> 53:20.365 They said, well, that's what they pay cleaners for to me. 53:20.865 --> 53:22.205 And I said, you don't really believe that. 53:22.245 --> 53:23.286 That's a stupid thing to say. 53:23.306 --> 53:27.528 They pay cleaners to pick up litter after jerks have thrown litter around. 53:27.548 --> 53:28.468 You're not a jerk, right? 53:28.488 --> 53:29.749 I was trying to get with the kids. 53:30.629 --> 53:38.489 She wasn't sure, but another guy, like sitting a bit further back, said to his mate, the original guy that I spoke to, he said, come on, just pick it up and put it in the bin. 53:38.795 --> 53:39.115 Yes. 53:39.675 --> 53:41.976 And at that point I knew I was home free. 53:42.076 --> 53:43.956 Well that's a sensible kid, good kid. 53:44.016 --> 53:44.317 Yeah. 53:44.557 --> 53:47.357 But I think the truth is there's a lot less litter than there used to be when we were kids. 53:47.417 --> 53:51.158 Do you remember in the 70s London in the 70s it was like a giant... Yeah well there was a strike. 53:51.178 --> 53:51.699 ...trash heap. 53:52.239 --> 53:55.680 Yeah but throughout it was a grottier place and generally things are a bit better now. 53:55.980 --> 53:56.400 I suppose. 53:56.480 --> 54:04.162 But still it's bad to throw litter kids and if you do throw litter then who knows Adam Buxton might come out and challenge you to some sort of a verbal throwdown. 54:05.001 --> 54:07.362 James Brown with Talking Loud and Saying Nothing. 54:07.922 --> 54:10.083 Absolutely no comment at all on this programme. 54:10.523 --> 54:15.045 That was recorded in 1972 and this is Adam and Joe on BBC 6 Music. 54:15.105 --> 54:22.508 Now Adam, you know I'm doing a little bit of or attempting to do some screenwriting as a sort of hobby kind of thing. 54:23.549 --> 54:28.431 I've just come up with some ideas of maybe some lines that I wanted to run by you to use in 54:29.671 --> 54:30.432 an action film. 54:30.833 --> 54:32.735 Good idea, I've got lots of lines I could give you. 54:32.875 --> 54:33.195 Have you? 54:33.436 --> 54:34.717 Well can I try some of mine? 54:34.757 --> 54:35.358 Yes, I'd love to hear. 54:35.378 --> 54:46.111 I thought maybe the characters in the film are at a critical point and there's no time to lose, to take action and my idea is one character says, let's do this! 54:47.182 --> 54:47.562 I like it. 54:47.642 --> 54:48.383 How'd you like that? 54:48.623 --> 54:49.423 I really like it. 54:49.443 --> 54:50.143 Let's do this. 54:50.424 --> 54:50.764 Yeah. 54:50.904 --> 54:51.164 Yeah. 54:51.724 --> 54:52.745 And then... Let's do this. 54:52.805 --> 54:55.766 Yeah, and then the other character says, go, go, go! 54:56.406 --> 54:57.947 I would have him say it more than that. 54:58.167 --> 54:59.028 What, four goes? 54:59.408 --> 55:00.308 More goes. 55:00.368 --> 55:01.309 Go, go, go. 55:01.409 --> 55:02.409 Go, go, go, go! 55:02.529 --> 55:03.190 Seven times. 55:03.430 --> 55:03.830 Seven times. 55:04.470 --> 55:05.451 Yeah, so let's try it. 55:05.471 --> 55:06.151 One, two, three, okay. 55:06.191 --> 55:07.132 Let's do this! 55:07.232 --> 55:09.773 Go, go, go, go, go, go, go! 55:10.093 --> 55:11.013 I laughed, I'm sorry. 55:11.193 --> 55:12.914 I couldn't really, you ruined the drama. 55:13.354 --> 55:15.055 But that seems to work, that seems to flow. 55:15.075 --> 55:16.216 You do it, you do the let's do this. 55:16.716 --> 55:17.336 Let's do this! 55:17.556 --> 55:19.037 Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go! 55:19.437 --> 55:21.178 That's very British and military sounding. 55:21.198 --> 55:22.339 This is an American film. 55:22.399 --> 55:23.299 Okay, do it again, do it again. 55:23.780 --> 55:26.141 And plus it's not, it just needs to be more felt. 55:26.201 --> 55:27.822 Alright, I can do it, I can do it. 55:28.422 --> 55:29.082 Let's do this! 55:29.302 --> 55:30.443 Go, go, go! 55:30.463 --> 55:32.544 Go, go, go, go, go! 55:32.564 --> 55:33.304 That works. 55:33.625 --> 55:38.627 Okay, and then my idea for the next line is, there are several people in the scene, so let's do this! 55:39.047 --> 55:40.408 Go, go, go, go, go, go, go! 55:40.468 --> 55:42.009 Then the other character says, move! 55:43.557 --> 55:43.717 Mmm. 55:43.797 --> 55:43.997 Yep. 55:44.417 --> 55:44.817 Move! 55:44.837 --> 55:46.218 Because it adds more urgency. 55:46.258 --> 55:49.259 Yeah, well, they've really got to get going and move and do it. 55:49.279 --> 55:49.699 You really? 55:49.719 --> 55:50.379 I like it. 55:50.679 --> 55:54.620 And then they do it, the thing that they're supposed to be doing. 55:55.220 --> 56:03.682 And then the characters, they encounter some kind of thing or event that they don't understand. 56:03.902 --> 56:04.362 Some way. 56:04.782 --> 56:06.083 Some kind of thing or event. 56:08.138 --> 56:11.701 Yeah, I'm just keeping it vague, because I'm not quite sure of the story yet. 56:11.761 --> 56:13.262 Is this how you write screenplays? 56:13.382 --> 56:16.305 They encounter some kind of thing or event. 56:16.325 --> 56:17.886 That would be action, that wouldn't be dialogue. 56:18.266 --> 56:22.170 They encounter a thing or an event, but they don't know what it is. 56:22.210 --> 56:24.211 So one of them says, what the hell's this? 56:25.172 --> 56:30.099 or another line I had there was for someone to say, can someone tell me what the hell's going on? 56:30.199 --> 56:31.240 That's a very good line. 56:31.781 --> 56:33.242 Is this stuff you're getting off Spielberg? 56:33.903 --> 56:35.065 No, this is stuff I've made up. 56:35.305 --> 56:35.846 Oh, right. 56:35.866 --> 56:36.046 Yeah. 56:36.486 --> 56:38.108 And then it goes wrong. 56:38.669 --> 56:42.134 And so my idea for the character 56:42.654 --> 57:10.603 for the dialogue when it goes wrong is the other one of the characters probably the person that said let's do this at the beginning says let's get out of here I like it because he's the demonstrative one he's the one that he's the leader you know what I think you're missing a trick there I love right I got one more I love what the what's going on did you say yeah can someone tell me what's going on can someone tell me what's going on yes and then let's get out of here and then the other idea I had was what the hell was that 57:12.040 --> 57:12.340 Yeah. 57:13.280 --> 57:16.641 Could someone please tell me what the hell is going on here? 57:16.681 --> 57:16.941 Yes. 57:16.961 --> 57:17.642 How about that? 57:17.882 --> 57:18.162 Yes. 57:18.982 --> 57:23.423 And of course if you could swear all those lines would be much better because you'd put swearing in there as well. 57:23.483 --> 57:27.904 Could someone please hecking tell me what the ruddy heck is going on? 57:28.324 --> 57:29.005 Let's do this. 57:29.365 --> 57:31.345 Go go go go go go go go. 57:31.805 --> 57:32.225 Move! 57:32.726 --> 57:33.746 What the hell's this? 57:34.186 --> 57:35.926 Can someone tell me what's going on? 57:36.206 --> 57:36.967 Let's get out of here. 57:37.107 --> 57:37.967 What the hell was that? 57:39.597 --> 57:40.797 That's a good scene though, isn't it then? 57:40.817 --> 57:41.497 That's a very good scene. 57:41.577 --> 57:43.218 I mean, that's all you really need for a scene. 57:43.438 --> 57:43.818 Yeah. 57:44.118 --> 57:45.098 That's good dialogue. 57:45.458 --> 57:46.699 It's full of character. 57:46.839 --> 57:48.219 It's got a thing or event. 57:48.319 --> 57:49.259 It's very driven. 57:49.279 --> 57:50.799 That's brilliant, man. 57:50.839 --> 57:55.040 I mean, I'm excited to see some of your films when they get made. 57:55.140 --> 57:58.081 I'm really looking forward to it. 57:58.481 --> 57:59.021 Thanks, man. 57:59.281 --> 58:02.342 This is PJ Harvey and John Parrish with black-hearted love. 58:03.280 --> 58:06.782 That was the sound of PJ Harvey and John Parrish with black-hearted love. 58:06.942 --> 58:08.883 We were on a plane with PJ Harvey once. 58:09.003 --> 58:09.904 We were, weren't we? 58:10.144 --> 58:10.964 She was attractive. 58:11.144 --> 58:11.504 She was. 58:11.564 --> 58:14.786 She was wearing very tight leathers. 58:15.647 --> 58:17.027 I remember black leathers. 58:17.087 --> 58:18.508 She looked like leather trousers. 58:18.648 --> 58:20.589 A kind of little minx. 58:21.370 --> 58:21.650 Really? 58:21.670 --> 58:22.330 Is that the right word? 58:22.570 --> 58:23.551 It's a bit sexist. 58:23.571 --> 58:24.771 It's a little bit sexist. 58:25.432 --> 58:25.972 Sorry about that. 58:26.172 --> 58:29.836 Yeah, to me she looked like a very noble and intelligent young woman. 58:29.856 --> 58:33.239 An intelligent, uh, self-possessed woman. 58:33.499 --> 58:36.482 To me she looked like a little lebbery minx. 58:37.223 --> 58:42.508 That's why you read Nutz Magazine and your favourite film is Lesbian Vampire Killers. 58:43.349 --> 58:44.951 Guilty as charged, your honour. 58:48.134 --> 58:54.019 I've got a bit of traditional jazz coming up. 58:54.059 --> 58:55.600 Did you ever go through a trad jazz phase? 58:57.122 --> 58:57.622 Not really. 58:57.762 --> 59:09.092 I mean, trad jazz does not do justice to the track I'm going to play by Duke Ellington, who was by no means traditional, was a trailblazer in his own way and a very respected behemoth of the jazz world. 59:09.913 --> 59:22.261 And this is a great track, Take the A Train, but it's one of the few that survived a period of about, let me see, about nine months in my early 20s when I thought, I'm going to get into jazz. 59:22.662 --> 59:24.523 I'm going to consume a lot of jazz. 59:24.903 --> 59:33.910 And I started with all like the Louis Armstrong's and I think inspired by the film Manhattan, you know, one of the things he talks about is Louis Armstrong's recording of Potato Head Blues. 59:33.930 --> 59:34.871 I thought, I'm going to start with that. 59:35.191 --> 59:36.092 Sure enough, it's very good. 59:36.812 --> 59:40.294 But a lot of the other jazz that I listened to wasn't that good, you know? 59:40.314 --> 59:41.995 Oh, I know. 59:42.295 --> 59:42.636 Yeah. 59:42.656 --> 59:44.437 Because I forced you to listen to a lot of it, didn't I? 59:45.657 --> 59:47.198 I was convinced this is the best. 59:47.218 --> 59:49.400 And I thought I was so sophisticated for liking it as well. 59:49.420 --> 59:51.401 Adam, Matt Bianco are not jazz. 59:52.421 --> 59:52.942 It is! 59:53.262 --> 59:54.443 Shakatec IS jazz! 01:00:03.595 --> 01:00:04.576 Well, this is not like that. 01:00:04.636 --> 01:00:07.419 This is Take the A Train by Duke Ellington. 01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:08.100 Hope you enjoy. 01:00:18.052 --> 01:00:19.933 But I thought it was essential that I bought it. 01:00:20.593 --> 01:00:23.274 I thought, this is an essential purchase for a record collector. 01:00:23.294 --> 01:00:25.295 I thought you meant essential purchase. 01:00:25.655 --> 01:00:25.915 No. 01:00:26.235 --> 01:00:27.175 That would be nice. 01:00:27.235 --> 01:00:28.536 I mean, it was essential purchase. 01:00:28.656 --> 01:00:30.376 Did you ever feel that way about any records? 01:00:30.396 --> 01:00:32.237 I didn't really like in excess, but I thought, need you tonight. 01:00:32.297 --> 01:00:33.557 I've got to have that in my collection. 01:00:33.617 --> 01:00:34.238 It's essential. 01:00:34.318 --> 01:00:38.659 I thought the same way about Bomb the Bass with their cover of Say a Little Prayer. 01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:39.159 Oh, yeah. 01:00:39.379 --> 01:00:41.160 I thought, this is amazing. 01:00:41.180 --> 01:00:43.061 This is on Cornish's essential selection. 01:00:43.081 --> 01:00:43.261 This. 01:00:43.401 --> 01:00:46.042 And I remember I had a vision of myself in 20 years time. 01:00:47.202 --> 01:00:52.528 getting that 12 inch out and people going, oh, you've got the original 12 inch of Bomb the Bass. 01:00:53.349 --> 01:00:54.350 Wow, you're cool. 01:00:54.410 --> 01:01:00.177 And then I had a vision of myself playing it and someone going, oh, it still sounds fantastic 20 years later. 01:01:00.657 --> 01:01:01.618 Wow, you're a visionary. 01:01:02.259 --> 01:01:03.840 You know, I played it the other day. 01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:05.181 It wasn't very good at all. 01:01:05.201 --> 01:01:05.802 Didn't stand up. 01:01:06.162 --> 01:01:06.442 Rubbish. 01:01:06.563 --> 01:01:09.045 I haven't heard Need You Tonight recently, but I know what you mean. 01:01:09.085 --> 01:01:11.066 I went out and bought the flipping album, did you? 01:01:11.126 --> 01:01:11.867 The INXS album. 01:01:11.887 --> 01:01:12.928 The INXS album. 01:01:13.488 --> 01:01:14.309 Oh my gosh. 01:01:14.349 --> 01:01:15.590 Turns out not to be very essential. 01:01:15.610 --> 01:01:17.171 What kind of insane move was that? 01:01:17.191 --> 01:01:19.833 Do you like the name Virgins for a band? 01:01:20.834 --> 01:01:25.318 That's straying into, do you like bands with sort of names that slightly put themselves down? 01:01:25.338 --> 01:01:33.005 I'm not saying that virgins is a negative term per se, but for a rock band it's an unexpected step, you know. 01:01:33.285 --> 01:01:36.248 It's provocative, it's probably the law of opposites, isn't it? 01:01:36.648 --> 01:01:36.948 Is it? 01:01:37.189 --> 01:01:38.510 Yeah, they're probably not virgins. 01:01:38.750 --> 01:01:41.672 Like, they could call themselves the rubbish band or something. 01:01:41.692 --> 01:01:43.074 Yeah, and that would mean they were really good. 01:01:43.094 --> 01:01:44.075 And that would mean they were wicked. 01:01:44.175 --> 01:01:46.577 I think it'd be a good name for a train company. 01:01:46.957 --> 01:01:47.217 Uh-huh. 01:01:47.797 --> 01:01:50.658 Or maybe a chain of shops. 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:52.959 Or a balloon manufacturer's. 01:01:52.979 --> 01:01:54.500 They should change their name to the Zavies. 01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:56.061 Then split up. 01:01:58.321 --> 01:01:58.662 Bye-bye. 01:01:59.002 --> 01:02:01.303 You could work for some kind of Radio 4 topical quiz. 01:02:03.200 --> 01:02:07.264 This is Adam and Jo on BBC6 Music, it's 11.30pm and time for the news. 01:02:23.038 --> 01:02:24.760 Well, a little bit of chocolate's nice though, isn't it? 01:02:25.041 --> 01:02:25.221 Yeah. 01:02:25.341 --> 01:02:29.926 And it's proven to release endorphins, is that right? 01:02:30.347 --> 01:02:30.867 Dolphins. 01:02:31.248 --> 01:02:34.812 It releases dolphins and it makes you feel happy. 01:02:35.393 --> 01:02:38.677 The dolphins, the way they squeak and chirp and they can do tricks, that cheers you up. 01:02:38.697 --> 01:02:39.277 They're very intelligent. 01:02:39.978 --> 01:02:41.758 So every bit of, am I getting this right? 01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:45.539 Every bit of chocolate you eat, you are releasing dolphins. 01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:45.800 Yep. 01:02:47.140 --> 01:02:48.260 That's correct. 01:02:49.020 --> 01:02:49.560 It's correct. 01:02:49.580 --> 01:02:53.702 So eat as much chocolate as you can because a lot of those dolphins are trapped and suffering. 01:02:53.822 --> 01:02:54.862 It's good for the dolphin. 01:02:56.302 --> 01:02:58.383 So do your bit for dolphin liberty. 01:02:58.863 --> 01:03:01.884 And is there a particular brand of chocolate that enables more dolphins? 01:03:04.064 --> 01:03:06.366 No, all chocolate releases. 01:03:06.386 --> 01:03:09.307 Any sane man would have walked away from that. 01:03:09.327 --> 01:03:10.968 Doesn't sound that much like endorphins. 01:03:11.389 --> 01:03:12.209 No, it doesn't. 01:03:13.030 --> 01:03:13.750 Terrible business. 01:03:13.950 --> 01:03:15.631 And yet, I kept on going on about. 01:03:15.971 --> 01:03:16.371 Well done. 01:03:16.391 --> 01:03:17.592 Way after the cut-off point. 01:03:17.612 --> 01:03:18.453 Hey, you know the cure, right? 01:03:18.473 --> 01:03:18.533 Yes. 01:03:22.608 --> 01:03:24.930 Kiss me, kiss me, kiss me! 01:03:25.370 --> 01:03:27.532 Yep, that's what Robert Smith sounds like to me. 01:03:27.952 --> 01:03:29.353 Big scary man with lipstick. 01:03:29.814 --> 01:03:31.135 Oh, kiss me, kiss me, kiss me! 01:03:31.375 --> 01:03:33.317 Have you ever heard him speak in real life? 01:03:33.337 --> 01:03:34.398 Does he sound like this? 01:03:34.558 --> 01:03:37.360 He was at the Q Awards when we hosted it years ago, wasn't he? 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.842 And he came up on stage and accepted an award. 01:03:39.862 --> 01:03:40.182 Did he? 01:03:40.202 --> 01:03:41.243 Yeah, I think he did. 01:03:41.343 --> 01:03:43.345 I've blocked everything out from my mind about that day. 01:03:43.365 --> 01:03:43.765 I think he was. 01:03:43.785 --> 01:03:45.907 Maybe it was another crazy head. 01:03:46.087 --> 01:03:48.127 Kiss me, kiss me, kiss me! 01:03:48.307 --> 01:03:50.128 Hello, I'm Robert Smith! 01:03:50.388 --> 01:03:54.509 He's a very talented, hugely respected figure in pop. 01:03:54.849 --> 01:03:58.490 You're ridiculing him. 01:03:58.650 --> 01:03:59.530 No, I'm not! 01:04:00.170 --> 01:04:04.131 Reducing him to the status of some sort of... Oh, I've seen a cat! 01:04:04.351 --> 01:04:05.251 A black cat! 01:04:05.431 --> 01:04:06.191 Scary cat! 01:04:07.051 --> 01:04:08.292 Oh no! 01:04:08.832 --> 01:04:10.992 Oh, kiss me, kiss me, kiss me! 01:04:11.372 --> 01:04:13.813 You're suggesting that he talks in the same way as he sings. 01:04:13.873 --> 01:04:14.513 Exactly. 01:04:14.773 --> 01:04:15.233 Yeah. 01:04:17.875 --> 01:04:18.976 That's my thesis. 01:04:19.836 --> 01:04:20.577 That's good, man. 01:04:20.637 --> 01:04:21.618 Yeah, imagine that. 01:04:22.118 --> 01:04:22.338 Wow. 01:04:22.378 --> 01:04:25.941 What would he sound like in conversation with, say, Kevin Rowland from Texas Midnight Runners? 01:04:26.021 --> 01:04:26.522 Right. 01:04:26.962 --> 01:04:28.543 What sort of a conversation would that be? 01:04:28.563 --> 01:04:29.564 That would be screechy. 01:04:33.770 --> 01:04:34.970 I haven't actually thought of words. 01:04:34.990 --> 01:04:37.451 Would you like to come for a drink, come in? 01:04:37.931 --> 01:04:44.152 I'd like to, I'd like to, I'd like to, I'd like to come for a drink. 01:04:46.953 --> 01:04:48.113 Yes indeed. 01:04:49.414 --> 01:04:50.714 Thank you, thank you. 01:04:51.174 --> 01:04:52.554 I'm getting a pie. 01:04:52.775 --> 01:04:54.475 Would you like a pie too? 01:04:55.339 --> 01:04:56.680 My Kevin Rowland was just singing. 01:04:56.900 --> 01:05:02.124 My Robert Smith's gone down a pathetic alleyway that Robert Smith would never go down. 01:05:02.144 --> 01:05:02.785 I love that alleyway. 01:05:03.005 --> 01:05:06.528 It's offensive to Cure fans and to the great man Robert Smith himself. 01:05:07.088 --> 01:05:08.009 No offense intended. 01:05:08.229 --> 01:05:09.010 I love that band. 01:05:09.030 --> 01:05:10.030 They've got a new album out. 01:05:10.090 --> 01:05:11.992 It's called Four Thirteen Dream. 01:05:12.372 --> 01:05:13.793 Have you seen the adverts for that album? 01:05:13.873 --> 01:05:14.234 I haven't. 01:05:14.734 --> 01:05:20.678 It's a nice bit of artwork they've got there, illustrating presumably some dream that Robert Smith was having. 01:05:20.718 --> 01:05:25.042 He woke up, he stared at the clock, and the digital readout said Four Thirteen. 01:05:25.282 --> 01:05:29.395 That's what I'm imagining the scenario was and that's what I think the story would be behind the album. 01:05:29.815 --> 01:05:30.955 Anyway, that's by the by. 01:05:31.376 --> 01:05:39.119 They're advertising it with a little bit of blurb saying, winner of the NME Godlike Genius Award. 01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:42.720 And I always think to myself, who is that aimed at? 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:47.442 Who is that going to convince that the new Cure album is a good purchase to make? 01:05:47.502 --> 01:05:52.964 Because if you're a regular Cure fan, right, then you don't need to be told that they're Godlike geniuses. 01:05:52.984 --> 01:05:53.805 You already think that. 01:05:54.765 --> 01:05:56.846 But if you'd never heard of the Cure before, 01:05:57.626 --> 01:06:08.955 Is your brain really so adult and malfunctioning that you would just... They won a award for being God-like geniuses. 01:06:09.315 --> 01:06:12.518 So they must be God-like geniuses. 01:06:12.578 --> 01:06:18.703 So I should buy their album and then I would hear them what they sound like. 01:06:19.443 --> 01:06:21.324 That's exactly what goes through people's heads. 01:06:22.104 --> 01:06:23.605 Yeah, that's what awards are for. 01:06:23.625 --> 01:06:27.047 They're to make it clear to the public what the best things are. 01:06:27.067 --> 01:06:27.547 Right. 01:06:27.988 --> 01:06:33.010 Sometimes with those awards, they just give them to whoever agrees to turn up. 01:06:33.150 --> 01:06:33.571 What? 01:06:33.851 --> 01:06:34.151 I know. 01:06:34.171 --> 01:06:36.592 Has that blown your world apart? 01:06:36.832 --> 01:06:37.273 Slightly. 01:06:37.293 --> 01:06:38.293 I don't believe it's true. 01:06:38.633 --> 01:06:39.834 Not with the Oscars. 01:06:40.314 --> 01:06:41.775 I don't think it's true in any way. 01:06:41.795 --> 01:06:43.076 But with minor awards. 01:06:43.976 --> 01:06:45.477 What, just awards for minors? 01:06:48.742 --> 01:06:49.945 Do we have some more music? 01:06:50.506 --> 01:06:53.012 Yes, let's have some Kings of Lee on This Is On Call. 01:06:53.677 --> 01:07:00.899 That was Roots Maneuver with Let the Spirit, recorded for 6th Music on the 11th of September 2008, fairly recently. 01:07:01.139 --> 01:07:02.999 He's always good to hear though, isn't he, Mr Maneuver? 01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:07.420 Oh yes, he's highly skilled and he's from Kennington, which is my neck of the woods in London. 01:07:07.940 --> 01:07:10.380 What a lovely neck, he's from my ends. 01:07:10.581 --> 01:07:11.761 Look at your beautiful neck. 01:07:11.841 --> 01:07:13.521 Yeah, I've got his back. 01:07:13.681 --> 01:07:14.081 Have you? 01:07:14.301 --> 01:07:16.782 Yeah, if there's any kind of situation goes down, I've got his back. 01:07:16.842 --> 01:07:22.023 I mean, he'd call for me, he'd holler and I'd get his back, I'd protect him. 01:07:22.623 --> 01:07:23.404 I'd get his back. 01:07:23.884 --> 01:07:25.185 That's how it is in the end. 01:07:25.285 --> 01:07:25.986 I could get his back. 01:07:26.206 --> 01:07:27.647 No, you couldn't because you're from Norfolk. 01:07:28.728 --> 01:07:31.911 And, you know, we would probably be... Take me too long. 01:07:32.191 --> 01:07:35.493 Yeah, that's probably who he's attacking as you. 01:07:36.014 --> 01:07:36.334 Really? 01:07:36.374 --> 01:07:37.235 Why would he attack us? 01:07:37.295 --> 01:07:39.356 Well, you know, Kennington, Norfolk, very different. 01:07:39.577 --> 01:07:40.517 We don't understand each other. 01:07:41.218 --> 01:07:41.879 Sort of tension. 01:07:42.299 --> 01:07:42.919 Well, he's wrong. 01:07:42.939 --> 01:07:44.160 You know, he's mad to do that. 01:07:44.180 --> 01:07:45.541 I would get his back if he asked me. 01:07:45.862 --> 01:07:47.023 Oh, this is a dance competition. 01:07:47.563 --> 01:07:48.924 It's not anything violent. 01:07:48.984 --> 01:07:49.944 It's a dance competition. 01:07:50.104 --> 01:07:50.324 Yeah. 01:07:52.966 --> 01:07:54.707 So on your bookshelves, right? 01:07:54.927 --> 01:07:55.107 Yeah. 01:07:55.527 --> 01:07:57.948 Have you got a lot of books there that you haven't read? 01:07:58.308 --> 01:08:02.691 Well, some of them are owned by my lady girlfriend partner, Kohabiti, a friend. 01:08:03.171 --> 01:08:04.692 I've got a load of books on my bookshelves. 01:08:04.812 --> 01:08:06.453 Have you just bought them because they look good? 01:08:06.553 --> 01:08:09.754 No, a lot of them I get given them, Christmas presents or whatever. 01:08:09.774 --> 01:08:10.955 A lot of them you get given them. 01:08:11.255 --> 01:08:12.235 Yeah, that's a good sentence. 01:08:12.255 --> 01:08:12.855 What's wrong with that? 01:08:13.035 --> 01:08:14.716 Maybe you should read some more of the books. 01:08:14.736 --> 01:08:15.816 A lot of them I get given them. 01:08:16.116 --> 01:08:18.557 Then you wouldn't be constructing sentences like that. 01:08:18.737 --> 01:08:20.077 Of like a lot of them, yeah. 01:08:20.197 --> 01:08:21.677 I'm like, get given them. 01:08:22.097 --> 01:08:22.897 So what's the probs? 01:08:22.917 --> 01:08:24.618 I mean, I think it's probably fine, you know. 01:08:24.638 --> 01:08:27.778 The chicks come round, they look at all the books, they think you've read them. 01:08:28.459 --> 01:08:29.179 Bish bash bosh. 01:08:29.859 --> 01:08:33.760 Have you ever got busted by someone going out and saying, oh yeah, the sports writer, that's brilliant. 01:08:34.380 --> 01:08:36.260 Did you like chapter six? 01:08:37.260 --> 01:08:39.681 No, that's never happened. 01:08:40.041 --> 01:08:41.381 I live in fear of it happening. 01:08:41.401 --> 01:08:41.682 Do you? 01:08:41.802 --> 01:08:45.603 I live in fear of someone coming around and pointing out a book and going, oh, that's a marvelous book. 01:08:45.683 --> 01:08:47.743 I, you know, I particularly enjoyed. 01:08:48.023 --> 01:08:48.303 Right. 01:08:48.963 --> 01:08:52.725 People would appreciate your honesty if you just told them that you'd never read it. 01:08:52.925 --> 01:08:55.025 But then it would happen a lot if they went through some of the other books. 01:08:58.026 --> 01:08:59.006 Are they there just for show? 01:08:59.486 --> 01:09:00.587 Yeah, really. 01:09:00.687 --> 01:09:01.967 Certainly that's why I keep a lot of them. 01:09:02.367 --> 01:09:05.268 Well, you know, the thing is that I certainly keep the ones I've read 01:09:06.349 --> 01:09:09.952 But definitely, you know, with the well-worn spines and everything, I'm very proud of them. 01:09:10.192 --> 01:09:11.793 They're like trophies. 01:09:12.374 --> 01:09:14.436 Yeah, they're like trophies, you know what I mean? 01:09:14.836 --> 01:09:16.437 To prove that I've read a book. 01:09:16.457 --> 01:09:17.518 That I can read books. 01:09:18.459 --> 01:09:27.327 And I would never get rid of them, even though there's, in a lot of cases, very little chance that I'll read them again, either because they're too boring or, you know, I'd rather be reading a new book. 01:09:28.207 --> 01:09:31.170 What's the most exciting book you've got that you haven't read on your shelf? 01:09:31.450 --> 01:09:32.691 Well, that's a very good question. 01:09:35.794 --> 01:09:37.115 I'm excited you asked it. 01:09:37.936 --> 01:09:43.160 And it would have to be probably... Ooh, can I have some thinking time? 01:09:43.360 --> 01:09:43.520 Yeah. 01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:46.262 Well, I'll tell you that mine is the sports writer, right? 01:09:46.422 --> 01:09:47.683 Which I may have mentioned earlier on. 01:09:47.724 --> 01:09:48.924 Is that written by Richard Price? 01:09:49.705 --> 01:09:50.005 Is it? 01:09:50.286 --> 01:09:50.506 Is it? 01:09:50.606 --> 01:09:50.906 I don't know. 01:09:50.966 --> 01:09:51.207 Is it? 01:09:51.407 --> 01:09:52.508 He wrote copies, didn't he? 01:09:52.648 --> 01:09:53.149 I'll look it up. 01:09:53.189 --> 01:09:53.689 You keep talking. 01:09:53.729 --> 01:09:54.170 You look it up. 01:09:54.490 --> 01:09:57.053 I was given it by my brother-in-law, right? 01:09:57.413 --> 01:09:57.553 Right. 01:09:57.753 --> 01:09:59.996 And he always gives me really good books. 01:10:00.036 --> 01:10:02.719 He gave me Shantaram the year before, which I really enjoyed. 01:10:03.379 --> 01:10:04.801 And so he's given me the sports writer. 01:10:04.841 --> 01:10:08.605 But I just think, yeah, but it's about sports writers. 01:10:09.005 --> 01:10:11.586 I don't even like any aspect of sport really that much. 01:10:12.386 --> 01:10:15.467 So I find it quite difficult to plunge into quite a big book. 01:10:16.147 --> 01:10:16.967 Richard Ford. 01:10:17.087 --> 01:10:17.647 Richard Ford. 01:10:17.667 --> 01:10:18.188 There you go. 01:10:18.608 --> 01:10:30.411 Even though it is garlanded with praise and people tell me it's wonderful and I really trust the taste of my brother-in-law, but you know, there just never seems to be the right moment to dive into the sportswriter. 01:10:30.851 --> 01:10:31.011 Yeah. 01:10:31.031 --> 01:10:31.852 Do you know what I'm saying? 01:10:32.012 --> 01:10:32.272 Yeah. 01:10:32.333 --> 01:10:32.993 Well, that's all right. 01:10:33.794 --> 01:10:35.996 Just think of it as an ornamental book. 01:10:36.316 --> 01:10:36.577 Yeah. 01:10:36.917 --> 01:10:40.781 Or have you ever thought about just sort of damaging the spine as if it's been read? 01:10:40.881 --> 01:10:42.662 I have thought about opening it, closing it. 01:10:42.682 --> 01:10:46.346 Not just in one place, otherwise that means you were looking for pictures in the middle. 01:10:46.366 --> 01:10:46.526 No, no, no. 01:10:46.546 --> 01:10:49.589 You know, I've thought about it to the extent that I would even read it in the bath. 01:10:49.909 --> 01:10:50.229 Really? 01:10:50.289 --> 01:10:52.131 So it looked a bit... I would flick through it in the bath. 01:10:52.151 --> 01:10:54.934 You see, that's the sign of a book you've read, Crumpled Sleeve. 01:10:55.314 --> 01:10:58.738 slightly sort of wet but now dried. 01:10:58.758 --> 01:10:59.438 Water damage. 01:10:59.999 --> 01:11:04.003 And to me it's always a little bit of orange juice. 01:11:04.043 --> 01:11:07.726 You know you've been eating an orange while you were reading some of it sprayed on the book. 01:11:07.907 --> 01:11:08.127 Sure. 01:11:08.307 --> 01:11:09.108 That's the key thing. 01:11:09.308 --> 01:11:10.349 Then you've definitely read it. 01:11:10.669 --> 01:11:12.449 then you can say you've read it and just forgotten it. 01:11:12.650 --> 01:11:14.150 Oh, I read so much, I've forgotten. 01:11:14.710 --> 01:11:17.471 I forget what that one was about, but I do remember it was brilliant. 01:11:17.671 --> 01:11:23.752 I find it very hard to recall, maybe it's the way that I read, I find it very hard to recall what's actually going on in the book sometimes. 01:11:23.772 --> 01:11:30.814 I mean, they do say that reading is a far more efficient way of gathering information and keeping it in your head than, for example, watching TV, right? 01:11:31.154 --> 01:11:31.554 Not for me. 01:11:34.017 --> 01:11:35.820 It goes in one ear and out the other eye. 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:40.666 A weird way for it to go. 01:11:40.746 --> 01:11:45.392 You've got medical problems and I'd see a doctor or have that eye test that you were going on about the other week. 01:11:45.453 --> 01:11:46.153 I got a free one! 01:11:49.618 --> 01:11:51.879 Here's Sebastian Telee with Kilometre. 01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:54.661 That was Sebastian Telee there with Kilometre. 01:11:55.001 --> 01:11:59.944 This is Adam and Joel on BBC Six Music just approaching the end of our Easter Saturday show. 01:12:00.024 --> 01:12:05.307 And don't forget that there is a podcast you can download of this kind of rambly ramshackle. 01:12:05.367 --> 01:12:06.368 Kind of rambly. 01:12:06.408 --> 01:12:06.668 Yeah. 01:12:06.708 --> 01:12:11.711 I mean, we didn't have any features because that's against the premise of Easter. 01:12:12.432 --> 01:12:14.373 Jesus hated features. 01:12:15.354 --> 01:12:15.774 You can't. 01:12:15.934 --> 01:12:16.435 say that. 01:12:16.855 --> 01:12:17.195 Why not? 01:12:17.556 --> 01:12:19.198 Because it's very upsetting. 01:12:19.278 --> 01:12:20.759 What if Jesus didn't hate features? 01:12:20.819 --> 01:12:22.521 What if Jesus was very strongly pro-features? 01:12:22.541 --> 01:12:24.923 I think most people would realize I wasn't serious. 01:12:25.023 --> 01:12:36.255 Yeah, but I mean, Bill Maher, for example, he might go out and make a whole program about investigating whether Jesus liked features or not and ridiculing people that thought that he didn't like features. 01:12:36.275 --> 01:12:36.896 We can't have that. 01:12:37.356 --> 01:12:37.537 No. 01:12:37.637 --> 01:12:44.326 But we haven't had many features, that's the long and short of it, and as a result it's been a sort of epic sort of ramble hasn't it? 01:12:44.586 --> 01:12:52.037 It's been an investigation into what lurks inside the minds of two stupid, stupid men. 01:12:54.920 --> 01:13:03.106 It's been a kind of experiment in that respect, and it'll be studied by people for years to come. 01:13:03.166 --> 01:13:05.268 By the management of BBC Six music. 01:13:05.348 --> 01:13:05.708 Exactly. 01:13:05.728 --> 01:13:10.672 It'll be held up and played in the cold light of day by an investigative committee. 01:13:11.425 --> 01:13:13.666 And I'm going to leave you with a free play now. 01:13:13.786 --> 01:13:16.686 This is some some kings of convenience. 01:13:16.766 --> 01:13:19.747 They're an indie folk pop duo from Bergen, Norway. 01:13:19.767 --> 01:13:21.867 Did you know that? 01:13:22.107 --> 01:13:22.868 Are they still together? 01:13:22.888 --> 01:13:24.008 I think so. 01:13:24.508 --> 01:13:28.529 We'll be back in full effect features and all next Saturday live. 01:13:28.569 --> 01:13:29.549 So join us then. 01:13:29.569 --> 01:13:31.129 Stay tuned for Liz Kershaw. 01:13:31.589 --> 01:13:32.270 Have a great week. 01:13:32.470 --> 01:13:33.110 Thanks for listening. 01:13:33.270 --> 01:13:33.510 Cheers. 01:13:33.550 --> 01:13:33.790 Bye. 01:13:33.810 --> 01:13:33.870 Bye.