WEBVTT 00:00.350 --> 00:09.226 Hello and welcome to the big british castle It's time for anim and joe to broadcast on the radio There'll be some music and some random toys 00:18.936 --> 00:21.498 That was Reuchsop with Happy Up Here. 00:21.538 --> 00:23.099 There was laughing at the beginning of that track as well. 00:23.200 --> 00:23.720 There was. 00:23.760 --> 00:25.021 I was just having a stretch there. 00:25.141 --> 00:25.421 Yeah. 00:26.042 --> 00:27.603 It's nice to have a stretch in the morning. 00:27.683 --> 00:28.003 Yeah. 00:28.104 --> 00:29.345 It's lovely to have a stretch. 00:29.405 --> 00:31.166 That's what the Chinese do. 00:31.626 --> 00:31.947 Is it? 00:32.067 --> 00:35.510 Yeah, they all go out in big regimented lines and have a stretch in the morning. 00:35.550 --> 00:36.711 That's forced stretching. 00:37.211 --> 00:38.092 It's still good though. 00:38.292 --> 00:38.572 Really? 00:38.592 --> 00:40.674 Or would you like to be stretched on a rack? 00:40.814 --> 00:41.114 Yes. 00:41.695 --> 00:43.056 Would you like to be stretched in Iraq? 00:43.476 --> 00:43.796 Yes. 00:44.456 --> 00:44.776 Really? 00:44.876 --> 00:46.477 All that says you're up for all of that stretching. 00:46.497 --> 00:48.377 I'd like to be stretched on Iraq. 00:48.617 --> 00:49.197 Yeah, yeah. 00:50.497 --> 00:50.917 Wow. 00:51.117 --> 00:51.437 Yeah. 00:51.537 --> 00:52.338 You love stretching. 00:52.378 --> 00:52.578 Yeah. 00:52.678 --> 00:54.618 Hey, thanks to Yare for doing the show. 00:54.638 --> 00:56.518 We never thank Yare, and that's just bad manners. 00:56.558 --> 00:57.518 He's a lovely chap. 00:57.558 --> 01:00.099 We always have a nice chap with him when we come in in the morning. 01:00.239 --> 01:01.719 Yeah, it's always nice to see him, you know? 01:01.939 --> 01:04.560 It's lovely to inherit a studio from a man like Yare. 01:04.600 --> 01:05.800 He smells very nice. 01:05.880 --> 01:06.620 Smells good. 01:06.720 --> 01:08.140 He's got his top button up. 01:08.200 --> 01:08.900 He's neat. 01:08.960 --> 01:09.480 He's dapper. 01:09.540 --> 01:10.241 He's orderly. 01:10.481 --> 01:12.741 Yeah, he's like a hospital orderly. 01:13.281 --> 01:16.103 And yet he's got a nice demeanor, he's dependable. 01:16.143 --> 01:22.686 You don't come in some weeks and he's absolutely miserable and sulky and, you know, pushes you and is rude to you. 01:22.926 --> 01:24.667 Like some people I could mention. 01:24.687 --> 01:24.747 Who? 01:24.807 --> 01:25.127 Who? 01:25.147 --> 01:26.828 I don't know. 01:27.588 --> 01:27.809 You. 01:28.169 --> 01:28.269 Me. 01:28.789 --> 01:30.410 Listen, I've got a new technique, listeners. 01:30.450 --> 01:31.931 By the way, this is Adam and Joe. 01:31.971 --> 01:32.832 Good morning, I'm Joe. 01:33.052 --> 01:33.893 Hey, good morning, I'm Adam. 01:34.393 --> 01:37.155 I've got a new technique for the music on the show, Adam. 01:37.315 --> 01:37.575 Oh yeah. 01:37.755 --> 01:38.256 And listeners. 01:38.716 --> 01:42.178 We get a list of everything on the show when we come in in the morning. 01:42.939 --> 01:43.579 The playlist. 01:43.720 --> 01:43.840 Yeah. 01:44.480 --> 01:46.902 And what I've done is I've gone through it with ticks and crosses. 01:47.423 --> 01:55.550 And I think if we hand it back to the people that set the records up, gradually they'll learn what we like and what we don't like. 01:55.731 --> 01:59.995 Now the problem is I might alienate some listeners when I tell them... You could call it the genius playlist. 02:00.175 --> 02:00.815 That's a good idea. 02:01.676 --> 02:07.602 I might alienate some listeners who like songs that I'm vetoing, but for instance, we were due to start with the choral, right? 02:07.882 --> 02:09.104 But I vetoed that. 02:09.124 --> 02:09.184 Why? 02:09.404 --> 02:11.366 I said no choral, go straight to Reich's song. 02:11.386 --> 02:12.447 Which choral song was it? 02:12.467 --> 02:13.048 In the Morning. 02:13.148 --> 02:14.249 Oh, that's a smash! 02:15.170 --> 02:15.830 Do you mean that? 02:15.911 --> 02:16.811 I love that song! 02:16.872 --> 02:17.632 Well, I vetoed it. 02:18.473 --> 02:20.236 I'll tell you what else I've vetoed. 02:20.256 --> 02:21.558 That's gone, you see. 02:21.578 --> 02:29.911 I've put a question mark by Smile by the Supernaturals, because I don't know it, and a question mark by Wintersleep by Oblivion. 02:29.931 --> 02:30.672 I don't know it. 02:31.333 --> 02:32.254 Is that wrong? 02:33.676 --> 02:34.996 What does the question mark mean? 02:35.016 --> 02:35.657 Well, I don't know. 02:35.717 --> 02:37.057 It just means, you know, be careful. 02:37.157 --> 02:38.097 Do we have to have this? 02:38.337 --> 02:38.978 I don't know it. 02:39.458 --> 02:41.318 I've put a question mark by your free choice. 02:41.338 --> 02:42.819 Because I don't know it. 02:42.839 --> 02:43.899 Because you're not aware of it. 02:43.959 --> 02:44.059 Yeah. 02:44.699 --> 02:46.920 Future heads with the hand of love I've put across by. 02:47.040 --> 02:51.501 Here's a man who fears and is distasteful of anything new. 02:51.903 --> 02:54.344 Yeah, I don't like anything beyond the late 80s. 02:55.264 --> 02:56.004 Is that bad? 02:56.764 --> 03:00.266 Anyway, you can have a look at my choices there, Adam, and see whether you disagree. 03:00.286 --> 03:02.106 Okay, well what about this next track, then? 03:02.586 --> 03:04.027 Oh, this is my free play! 03:04.227 --> 03:05.367 Yeah, I'd put a cross by that. 03:05.387 --> 03:08.928 Hey, you know, did you like The Moldy Peaches, Joe? 03:11.229 --> 03:11.709 What do you mean? 03:12.051 --> 03:15.773 Well, you know the Mouldy Peaches turned up, they were used heavily in the film Juno. 03:16.154 --> 03:16.414 Right. 03:17.054 --> 03:18.935 And they'd been around for a while. 03:18.975 --> 03:22.518 They were touring back with the Strokes when the Strokes first came on the scene. 03:22.558 --> 03:22.818 Yeah. 03:23.118 --> 03:24.239 In, when was it, 1990? 03:24.279 --> 03:25.219 I love Juno. 03:26.280 --> 03:31.303 And so they are quirky New York sort of slightly folky hipsters, right? 03:31.463 --> 03:32.484 Right. 03:32.804 --> 03:36.587 But I found out that this guy, Geoffrey Lewis, is actually a contemporary of theirs. 03:36.627 --> 03:41.350 In fact, I think some of his stuff, maybe the track I'm going to play right now, predates the Mouldy Peaches. 03:41.991 --> 03:49.289 and certainly they sound very similar, but in their own limited way, the mouldy peaches achieved far more success through the film Juno. 03:49.801 --> 03:51.702 Look, what are you doing? 03:51.862 --> 03:53.964 You should be sitting up and clapping. 03:53.984 --> 03:55.345 You should be sitting up and clapping. 03:55.525 --> 03:57.947 None of the words made any sense to me. 03:58.607 --> 04:05.672 This is why you're putting crosses in question marks by everything because you're not sufficiently engaged with the amazing musical Tales I'm Weaving. 04:06.712 --> 04:07.733 No, it sounds exciting. 04:07.753 --> 04:10.775 The Moldy Peaches, Juno, The Man with the Record. 04:10.795 --> 04:11.996 What are you going to play? 04:12.016 --> 04:13.637 Well, listeners, I hope you enjoy this. 04:13.797 --> 04:14.878 If you like the Moldy Peaches. 04:14.898 --> 04:17.500 You should play I Monster First because it's not cash that one. 04:17.640 --> 04:18.060 What? 04:18.421 --> 04:20.427 You see, it was all in vain. 04:20.528 --> 04:22.695 What wasted everyone's time and ear energy? 04:24.985 --> 04:27.646 I can talk for five minutes about Jeffrey Lewis, if you like. 04:28.467 --> 04:29.087 We'll come back to it. 04:29.107 --> 04:30.127 We'll come back to it. 04:30.407 --> 04:31.568 Well, this has been a disaster. 04:31.728 --> 04:32.268 Thanks, Ben. 04:32.428 --> 04:33.169 Thanks, Joe. 04:33.189 --> 04:35.129 See, it's because I put a cross by it. 04:35.330 --> 04:35.990 Here's I, Monster. 04:36.010 --> 04:36.510 Hasn't been cashed. 04:36.970 --> 04:38.371 This is Sucker For Your Sound. 04:38.571 --> 04:41.812 That's I, Monster with Sucker For Your Sound. 04:41.872 --> 04:46.594 It's the first single from I, Monster's forthcoming album, Beware The Eyes That Parallize. 04:46.934 --> 04:47.655 That was very good. 04:47.695 --> 04:48.695 I enjoyed that very much. 04:49.095 --> 04:50.196 Congratulations, I, Monster. 04:50.836 --> 04:52.997 My Jeffrey Lewis track still hasn't... What is it? 04:53.057 --> 04:53.577 What's the word? 04:53.617 --> 04:53.957 Cashed. 04:54.297 --> 04:54.897 Cashed. 04:55.357 --> 04:56.878 C-A-C-H-E-D. 04:56.938 --> 04:58.438 What does that actually mean? 04:58.739 --> 05:01.619 It's being downloaded onto, like, the 6 Music Card Disk. 05:02.220 --> 05:02.980 The hard drive. 05:03.020 --> 05:03.280 The brain. 05:03.300 --> 05:03.360 Hal. 05:03.380 --> 05:09.222 Why can't you put a CD in the CD player and just press play? 05:09.302 --> 05:10.522 I was thinking this the other day. 05:10.842 --> 05:12.763 Do we have turntables in this studio? 05:12.783 --> 05:13.663 Yeah, there's some next door. 05:13.723 --> 05:15.084 We should bring some vinyl in. 05:15.444 --> 05:15.744 Do some... 05:16.064 --> 05:17.865 Yeah, we could have a vinyl free play. 05:18.345 --> 05:20.446 It sends them into a spin, though, whenever you do anything like that. 05:20.466 --> 05:21.327 Yeah, but it would be fun. 05:21.507 --> 05:22.087 It would be fun. 05:22.227 --> 05:25.329 To see how prepared 6 Music is to play an actual record. 05:25.749 --> 05:32.333 Because, you know, once I suggested bringing an iPod in and putting it on shuffle and just sticking it into the desk with a lead. 05:32.373 --> 05:33.354 Well, that's futuristic. 05:33.374 --> 05:34.954 What I'm suggesting is atavistic. 05:36.695 --> 05:37.616 So that might be more fun. 05:37.636 --> 05:43.199 The other thing is, I suspect that vinyl, when played over the radio, actually sounds better than a CD. 05:43.299 --> 05:45.480 Well loads of people play vinyl on the radio though. 05:45.500 --> 05:45.900 Do they? 05:45.980 --> 05:46.761 I think it sounds better. 05:46.781 --> 05:47.801 I think the bass is better. 05:47.821 --> 05:48.061 Right. 05:48.282 --> 05:49.602 And the sound is a bit crisper. 05:49.822 --> 05:50.803 I'd like to test that out. 05:51.783 --> 05:52.224 You're welcome. 05:53.084 --> 05:54.065 You're not going to join in? 05:54.085 --> 05:54.646 Yes, of course. 05:54.706 --> 05:56.127 I haven't got that much vinyl. 05:56.267 --> 05:57.508 I've got some singles and stuff. 05:57.688 --> 06:00.691 They're still in my moving boxes and things, but I'll dig them out. 06:00.791 --> 06:01.651 Yeah, that'd be good. 06:01.671 --> 06:03.573 We should have a vinyl free play each next week. 06:03.693 --> 06:04.574 All right, that's a good idea. 06:04.594 --> 06:05.254 I'll sort that out. 06:05.555 --> 06:06.596 I'll do some digging. 06:07.556 --> 06:09.938 OK, now, so we haven't got Geoffrey Lewis. 06:09.958 --> 06:10.419 That's a shame. 06:10.439 --> 06:12.440 Should we do some more teasing about what's in the show? 06:12.661 --> 06:15.263 Yeah, we've got lots of stuff coming up in the show. 06:15.503 --> 06:18.545 I won't say exciting stuff like I usually do, because it makes you angry. 06:18.646 --> 06:19.426 No, it doesn't make me angry. 06:19.446 --> 06:20.207 It makes me excited. 06:20.367 --> 06:22.388 We've got exciting stuff coming up in the show. 06:23.108 --> 06:26.809 I've got an exciting new jingle for an exciting, I'm saying it too much now, am I? 06:27.310 --> 06:28.530 For an exciting new segment. 06:29.130 --> 06:32.331 We've got a piece of mystery audio that our producer Ben won't tell us anything about. 06:32.351 --> 06:37.493 You've got a jingle, because I noticed there were a couple of emails that we got during the week from people saying, why doesn't Joe do any jingles? 06:37.513 --> 06:38.174 Were you stung into action? 06:38.194 --> 06:39.074 That's a good point actually. 06:39.914 --> 06:43.556 I was stung into action by a couple of emails, but it's a good point. 06:43.636 --> 06:44.776 I don't do enough jingles. 06:45.016 --> 06:45.737 I don't think I've done. 06:45.777 --> 06:48.058 Have I done any jingles for our six music tenure? 06:48.218 --> 06:48.898 I don't think you have. 06:49.418 --> 06:50.278 Pretty lazy, isn't it? 06:50.338 --> 06:50.639 Really. 06:51.619 --> 06:54.460 So I've done one and so that'll be popping up later. 06:54.480 --> 06:55.040 What else have we got? 06:55.060 --> 07:00.323 We're going to launch Text the Nation a bit earlier than usual because we thought that would give people more of a chance to contribute. 07:01.003 --> 07:08.466 And I think one of the main traumatic things this week for me personally is going to be some audio, some childhood audio. 07:08.786 --> 07:09.006 Right. 07:09.146 --> 07:10.948 Recorded when you were how old? 07:11.328 --> 07:10.948 10, 11. 07:11.568 --> 07:11.788 Right. 07:12.049 --> 07:13.349 We were teasing this last week. 07:13.650 --> 07:14.670 And I... Sorry. 07:14.811 --> 07:18.914 We were discussing when, as a child, you get a little tape recorder and pretend you're a DJ. 07:19.034 --> 07:19.294 Yeah. 07:19.714 --> 07:20.435 Most people do it. 07:20.575 --> 07:20.975 I did it. 07:21.535 --> 07:23.237 And I found the results the other week. 07:23.977 --> 07:24.998 And it's awful. 07:25.298 --> 07:25.558 Is it? 07:25.799 --> 07:26.059 Yeah. 07:26.219 --> 07:27.140 Are you heard a bit of it? 07:27.360 --> 07:28.521 It sounded good to me. 07:29.648 --> 07:30.208 Yeah, I don't know. 07:30.228 --> 07:33.151 It's going to be painful, but that's going to be coming up later in the program. 07:33.191 --> 07:35.852 I tried to find, because I was convinced that I had a similar thing. 07:35.912 --> 07:39.615 And in fact, I did, but unfortunately, I taped over a lot of it. 07:40.396 --> 07:41.336 How frustrating. 07:41.356 --> 07:43.518 And it was, I taped the Stranglers over it. 07:44.278 --> 07:46.560 Their album, Oral Sculpture, later on. 07:47.180 --> 08:03.239 in my teen years but what a jerk it was some sweet stuff of me I must have been about six or seven years old doing the breakfast show but very little of it pretending to do the breakfast yeah yeah I wasn't actually on air that's the way you said it sounded as if you were it was in my brain 08:03.880 --> 08:05.941 But, well, I'll play it to you later on. 08:06.181 --> 08:10.764 It features what would now be considered a borderline offensive joke. 08:10.784 --> 08:12.225 Ah, that'd be good to play. 08:14.326 --> 08:16.087 Anyway, that's all to look forward to, listeners. 08:16.387 --> 08:18.248 But right now, here's Tribe Called Quest. 08:18.288 --> 08:19.229 This is a ward tour. 08:19.389 --> 08:20.270 Good stuff there. 08:20.410 --> 08:21.290 A ward tour. 08:21.430 --> 08:23.491 That's Tribe Called Quest. 08:23.511 --> 08:25.332 This is Adam and Joe here on BBC 6 Music. 08:25.353 --> 08:28.414 It's a beautiful morning in old London town. 08:28.614 --> 08:29.235 It is, isn't it? 08:29.395 --> 08:31.036 It's cold and bright. 08:31.256 --> 08:32.537 It's warming up a little bit. 08:33.217 --> 08:33.477 Yeah? 08:33.737 --> 08:34.378 Oh, it's springy. 08:34.498 --> 08:35.878 It's getting a bit more mild and nice. 08:35.898 --> 08:36.698 It's getting a bit more springy. 08:36.839 --> 08:37.259 I like it. 08:37.399 --> 08:39.760 But listen, why don't we preview my exciting new jingle? 08:40.280 --> 08:41.080 What do you think, Ben? 08:41.260 --> 08:44.802 Because this is going to make it into the podcast in a different form, I think, this jingle. 08:45.462 --> 08:50.504 But the idea is to have a section in our podcast that's podcast exclusive. 08:51.124 --> 08:51.505 Oh, yes. 08:51.885 --> 08:54.926 That you can only hear are in the podcast. 08:55.346 --> 09:00.628 And we thought what we might do is kill two birds with one stone, as well as having something podcast exclusive. 09:00.708 --> 09:00.868 Good. 09:00.888 --> 09:01.509 I hate birds. 09:01.829 --> 09:02.049 Yeah. 09:02.469 --> 09:04.891 We thought we might, you've made me confused. 09:04.911 --> 09:05.311 Sorry, man. 09:05.751 --> 09:06.752 Podcast exclusive. 09:06.772 --> 09:07.012 Yeah. 09:07.132 --> 09:07.413 Oh, yeah. 09:07.433 --> 09:08.093 We thought we might. 09:08.353 --> 09:17.740 The other thing people have been complaining about is that if you don't listen to the live show and you listen again or listen to the podcast, then you don't get a chance to join in with Text the Nation. 09:17.820 --> 09:20.562 Yeah, that can be frustrating for some listeners. 09:20.982 --> 09:29.008 So we thought we'd do a section in in the podcast where we catch up on on late submissions to Text the Nation for this as well. 09:29.128 --> 09:29.488 Did you? 09:29.568 --> 09:29.748 Yeah. 09:29.808 --> 09:30.489 Did you bring it in? 09:30.549 --> 09:30.669 Yeah. 09:31.249 --> 09:32.932 What's on the... Well, I'll play it later. 09:33.152 --> 09:34.214 Okay, well, here's my jingle. 09:34.234 --> 09:35.256 Are you ready with this, Ben? 09:36.198 --> 09:40.766 Yeah, here's my jingle for what I thought we should call retro-textination. 09:43.186 --> 09:44.387 That's not it. 09:44.727 --> 09:45.428 That's my one. 09:47.470 --> 09:48.411 Ben, what's going on? 09:48.471 --> 09:49.552 Play that one if you want, Ben. 09:50.613 --> 09:52.815 That was my jingle for the section. 09:52.855 --> 09:55.117 Actually, it was more for a feedback section, you know what I mean? 09:55.137 --> 09:55.397 Right. 09:55.637 --> 09:59.000 So, like, communications that we get just from podcast listeners. 09:59.140 --> 09:59.741 That's good. 09:59.941 --> 10:01.182 We would preface it with that jingle. 10:01.202 --> 10:03.944 We can have two exclusive segments. 10:05.426 --> 10:06.547 One at the beginning and one at the end. 10:06.567 --> 10:08.548 Because we like to take care of the podcast listeners. 10:08.588 --> 10:08.829 Yeah. 10:09.249 --> 10:14.350 You know, and we always bang on about it, but if you listen to this show and you don't listen to the podcast, you're missing out. 10:14.370 --> 10:15.310 Let's hear Joe's jingle. 10:32.870 --> 10:33.371 It's funky. 10:34.171 --> 10:36.033 Uh, Jamiroquai actually helped me with that. 10:36.053 --> 10:37.835 You know, I used that backing track before. 10:37.975 --> 10:38.336 Did you? 10:38.436 --> 10:38.796 Yeah. 10:39.016 --> 10:39.617 For a jingle? 10:39.677 --> 10:41.078 For a jingle we used on the show? 10:41.219 --> 10:41.499 Yes. 10:41.559 --> 10:42.360 Not that I remember. 10:42.620 --> 10:44.262 And, uh, it's on the podcast. 10:44.542 --> 10:46.024 You know, it turns up in the podcast. 10:46.184 --> 10:49.287 And now you've gone in and used the same jingle track. 10:49.307 --> 10:51.089 But you've done it slightly better. 10:51.149 --> 10:52.430 I wouldn't have done that if I hadn't known. 10:52.450 --> 10:53.852 And that's very humiliating. 10:54.412 --> 10:57.315 For me... We got Adam's jingle with the same music in there, Ben. 10:57.415 --> 10:59.116 We're really pushing Ben this morning. 10:59.156 --> 11:00.778 It's impossible for Ben to source it. 11:01.118 --> 11:03.760 But, you know, I mean, it's a good... I love the jingle. 11:03.880 --> 11:06.462 I think we should play them both back-to-back and see which is best. 11:06.522 --> 11:08.204 Well, we'll dig it out later on in the show. 11:08.224 --> 11:09.445 It's like Ant vs. Deck. 11:09.685 --> 11:10.005 Yeah. 11:10.525 --> 11:12.306 But in this case, who am I? 11:12.326 --> 11:13.867 I'm the little one. 11:14.107 --> 11:14.727 Yeah, the little one. 11:14.747 --> 11:15.487 I'm Deck. 11:15.927 --> 11:16.368 Your aunt. 11:17.288 --> 11:24.331 Well, I'm Deck, and in this case, it's not fair, because Deck, you know, I did this jingle ages ago, years ago even, and got no credit for it. 11:24.351 --> 11:26.371 It's all part of, you know, the way I do things. 11:26.872 --> 11:29.233 And Joe suddenly turns up with his jingle. 11:29.513 --> 11:30.493 Oh, look at my jingle! 11:30.553 --> 11:32.754 It's exactly the same as yours, but slightly better. 11:33.114 --> 11:35.555 And expects everyone to give him a round of applause. 11:35.595 --> 11:36.535 That's what's going on, right? 11:36.555 --> 11:37.696 I wish you would look at my jingle. 11:38.516 --> 11:39.616 Well, if you get it out, I will. 11:39.976 --> 11:41.837 You can't see my jingle, it's audio only. 11:42.257 --> 11:42.577 Yeah. 11:43.817 --> 11:45.277 I think my jingle's brilliant. 11:45.517 --> 11:48.718 Yeah, listen, I never said at any point that your jingle wasn't brilliant. 11:49.178 --> 11:50.278 I just sort of launched off. 11:50.298 --> 11:52.439 Just pulled the whole thing into a nest of neurosis. 11:52.479 --> 11:53.499 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 11:53.639 --> 11:54.599 As per usual. 11:54.659 --> 11:57.060 Well, I think it's fair there, you know what I mean. 11:57.680 --> 12:03.341 So there we go, that's an exciting tease for a segment in the podcast to be listened to. 12:03.661 --> 12:04.341 Yes, very good. 12:04.921 --> 12:06.702 That's, uh, that's Joe's jingle. 12:06.822 --> 12:08.302 Right now it's Jeffrey Lewis time. 12:08.322 --> 12:09.803 We're going to just play it off a CD. 12:09.863 --> 12:10.863 Hope you enjoy this listeners. 12:10.883 --> 12:12.223 This is called the East River. 12:12.323 --> 12:13.044 Jeffrey Lewis. 12:13.884 --> 12:15.204 Sorry, I've got things in my throat. 12:15.744 --> 12:16.064 Things? 12:16.184 --> 12:16.684 Frogs. 12:17.545 --> 12:18.985 Uh, what other things do you have in your throat? 12:19.665 --> 12:20.065 Saws. 12:20.546 --> 12:21.106 Saws. 12:21.346 --> 12:22.186 No, I'm not saws. 12:22.466 --> 12:23.828 Well, as in a sore throat, polyps. 12:24.368 --> 12:24.929 Polyps. 12:25.369 --> 12:25.850 Nodes. 12:26.711 --> 12:29.474 Maybe I've got nodes and frogs in there anyway, I'm sorry about that. 12:30.435 --> 12:31.496 Hope you enjoyed that, listeners. 12:31.536 --> 12:33.017 Geoffrey Lewis from his album. 12:33.038 --> 12:36.361 I think it's just been released and it's called The Last Time I Took Acid, I Went Insane. 12:37.182 --> 12:40.265 So it's a cautionary tale there for you. 12:40.646 --> 12:43.248 Now we're going to launch Text the Nation early this week. 12:44.209 --> 12:52.492 because we thought that maybe it would be better to give people more of a chance to send their ideas in, you know what I mean, rather than leaving it to the last half of the show. 12:52.652 --> 12:52.872 Yeah. 12:53.032 --> 12:55.412 And then you haven't got enough time, right, to respond, if you want to respond. 12:55.612 --> 12:56.373 So let's have the jingle. 12:58.753 --> 12:59.574 Text the nation. 12:59.614 --> 13:00.674 Text, text, text. 13:00.794 --> 13:01.514 Text the nation. 13:01.594 --> 13:02.554 What if I don't want to? 13:02.815 --> 13:03.555 Text the nation. 13:03.635 --> 13:04.635 But I'm using email. 13:04.795 --> 13:05.535 Is that a problem? 13:05.555 --> 13:06.336 It doesn't matter, text. 13:09.008 --> 13:16.856 Yes, Text the Nation listeners is the part of the show where we introduce a subject and you text us about it and then we read the best ones out. 13:17.397 --> 13:18.919 Now this one you thought of, right, Joe? 13:19.259 --> 13:23.223 Yeah, but there's no need to pin responsibility on me so early in the proceedings. 13:23.383 --> 13:25.366 I mean, it sounds like you're setting me up for a fall there. 13:25.386 --> 13:26.327 That's what you do to me. 13:27.007 --> 13:32.994 Yeah, but you're not allowed to do it to me It's what's called a one-way street All right. 13:33.014 --> 13:34.375 Okay the traffic signs. 13:34.795 --> 13:34.876 Okay. 13:35.096 --> 13:43.384 Sorry officer So well, you can correct me when I go sometimes I do that to you if it's going badly Yeah, if it's going well, then I like to share the credit 13:44.245 --> 13:45.226 That's the best technique. 13:45.246 --> 13:45.466 Yeah. 13:46.047 --> 14:00.138 Well, my understanding of your idea for Text the Nation is that this is a kind of street acting or public performances that you do pretty much for your own benefit in order to disguise something else. 14:00.258 --> 14:00.638 Yeah. 14:00.738 --> 14:04.542 So for instance, if you are walking down the street 14:05.322 --> 14:28.130 and you see maybe an attractive lady or man walking past a lady man or an attractive lady man and you want to sneak another look at them you might pretend that you're lost momentarily in order to avoid just looking like a lech yeah right so you might pretend to be lost and look left and right and up and down with sort of expression on your face going 14:28.550 --> 14:30.092 Where is the road I'm looking for? 14:30.312 --> 14:33.135 So that your glances sweep across the regions you're interested in. 14:33.355 --> 14:34.756 Exactly, exactly. 14:34.776 --> 14:41.463 A similar thing can be done on the underground if you want to look at a detractive person at a detractive person. 14:41.623 --> 14:42.424 A detractive person. 14:42.484 --> 14:43.545 At an attractive ATAT. 14:44.165 --> 14:45.746 sitting opposite you on the tube. 14:46.487 --> 14:48.788 And this is another bit of, what are we calling it? 14:48.848 --> 14:49.489 Street acting. 14:50.069 --> 14:50.449 Yes. 14:50.469 --> 14:53.411 I don't know what it would be called, like private mime or something. 14:53.872 --> 14:58.555 You're reading a newspaper and you just read the article at the very top of the page. 14:58.575 --> 15:00.016 Do you ever do that? 15:00.036 --> 15:02.317 And then you just adjust your eye line and inch above. 15:02.437 --> 15:03.498 And glance over the top of the paper. 15:03.558 --> 15:04.659 And look at the person, yeah. 15:04.899 --> 15:11.103 And then if there's any sense that they're looking back at you, you quickly pop down to the article. 15:11.143 --> 15:11.583 Does that work? 15:11.624 --> 15:13.605 I'm practicing it now on Adam with a piece of paper. 15:14.225 --> 15:15.646 Well, the nice thing that you can see, can't you? 15:15.746 --> 15:17.026 Yeah, yeah. 15:17.066 --> 15:19.867 The nice thing about that is that you can get some reading done at the same time. 15:19.987 --> 15:20.267 Yes. 15:20.487 --> 15:21.428 But you don't have to be. 15:21.448 --> 15:23.588 I mean, here's a couple of things that I do, right? 15:24.229 --> 15:33.772 Sometimes when I'm, funnily enough, going the wrong way down a one-way street on my bike, which I know is wrong and evil and dirty and bad, and it's one of the many reasons that people hate cyclists, 15:34.932 --> 15:46.356 What I do to excuse the practice is I sometimes I pause every now and again and I look around as if I'm just about to dismount and get onto the pavement and go into a doorway in a building. 15:46.376 --> 15:47.416 What are you disguising there? 15:47.456 --> 15:48.237 What are you covering up? 15:48.277 --> 15:52.078 I'm covering up the fact that I'm brazenly cycling the wrong way down a one-way street. 15:52.518 --> 15:58.045 So in my head I'm thinking, what I'm displaying to the public is, oh it's okay, I'm not going down a one-way street. 15:58.425 --> 16:02.490 I'm actually just about to get off my bike and go into one of these doorways here. 16:02.510 --> 16:05.213 I'm just checking to see which the right doorway is. 16:05.513 --> 16:11.160 So if you tell me that I can't go the wrong way down a one-way street, you'd be wrong because I'm just about to get off my bike so... That's good. 16:11.701 --> 16:12.261 In your face. 16:12.822 --> 16:13.222 You know what I mean? 16:13.323 --> 16:13.583 Yeah. 16:13.763 --> 16:16.025 And before they know it, I'm at the end of the one-way street. 16:16.065 --> 16:16.385 Wow. 16:16.446 --> 16:20.009 And the king, I've gone right the way down that runway street the wrong way. 16:20.329 --> 16:22.071 Because I was looking for a doorway. 16:22.211 --> 16:23.612 Here's, I've thought of another one I do. 16:23.732 --> 16:23.873 Yeah. 16:24.113 --> 16:31.700 If I turn up at, say, a cinema or a place where I'm meeting a friend, and the friend is late, I don't want to look like a loser. 16:31.760 --> 16:33.502 And I think this is something that a lot of people do. 16:33.542 --> 16:33.782 Sure. 16:33.982 --> 16:35.783 So I get my mobile phone out. 16:35.823 --> 16:36.183 Yeah. 16:36.443 --> 16:38.704 And just pretend to be dealing with texts. 16:38.844 --> 16:39.665 Oh, yeah. 16:40.065 --> 16:44.607 And what I'm actually doing is reading really old texts that I've read before. 16:44.767 --> 16:45.007 Yeah. 16:45.147 --> 16:46.468 And I don't need to read them. 16:46.668 --> 16:48.489 I just randomly press buttons sometimes. 16:48.669 --> 16:50.750 Exactly, to make it look as if you're really busy. 16:50.830 --> 16:51.550 Not even switched on. 16:51.570 --> 16:53.411 Do you ever pretend to be taking a call? 16:53.591 --> 16:53.971 Definitely. 16:54.011 --> 16:54.731 For any reason? 16:55.151 --> 16:58.053 Under what circumstance would you pretend to take a mobile phone call? 16:58.233 --> 16:58.633 Back of a taxi. 16:58.653 --> 16:59.533 I'm sure I've done it. 16:59.854 --> 17:02.835 Back of a taxi is a classic place for doing all kinds of pretending. 17:03.195 --> 17:03.415 Right. 17:03.475 --> 17:05.977 To avoid talking to the taxi driver. 17:06.117 --> 17:06.417 Right. 17:06.477 --> 17:11.140 If he's a chatty man and you think, I just can't face it, definitely do a little pretend phone call. 17:11.220 --> 17:13.081 And here's another thing I do in taxis sometimes. 17:13.862 --> 17:25.790 I ostentatiously put in my headphones and then, because I don't want to be rude and just imply that I'm just going to listen to music to avoid talking to him, I take out my notebook and I pretend to be making notes. 17:26.630 --> 17:29.210 about the music I'm listening to because that's my job. 17:29.491 --> 17:29.711 Right. 17:29.751 --> 17:29.911 Right? 17:30.211 --> 17:31.611 Because I'm an A&R guy. 17:32.571 --> 17:33.291 You are an A&R guy. 17:33.331 --> 17:34.151 Or I'm a journalist. 17:34.211 --> 17:35.532 Or I'm a radio DJ. 17:35.552 --> 17:38.792 You're an A&R and an S and an E guy. 17:39.032 --> 17:40.412 So that's text the nation this week. 17:40.432 --> 17:41.133 Get your ideas in. 17:41.153 --> 17:44.233 Things that you pretend to do to cover for other behaviour. 17:44.253 --> 17:45.593 We're trying to think of a good term for it. 17:45.633 --> 17:46.333 Public pretending? 17:46.473 --> 17:47.894 Public pretending, street mime. 17:48.294 --> 17:51.554 Not sure, but fake behaviour that covers other behaviour. 17:51.694 --> 17:52.174 Okay. 17:52.214 --> 17:53.235 The text number is 64046. 17:53.315 --> 17:54.015 Nicely remembered. 17:55.655 --> 18:13.415 uh 6 4 0 4 6 the email is adamandjo.6music at bbc.co.uk just gone 9 30 here on 6 music it's time for the news oh blimey that was black kids with what's it called i'm not going to teach your boyfriend how to dance this is adamandjo on bbc6 music and now our producer ben 18:14.096 --> 18:17.919 when we came in this morning told us that he had some mystery audio to play us. 18:18.359 --> 18:20.560 Neither Adam and I have any idea what this is. 18:20.661 --> 18:22.742 And this is unusual behaviour for Ben, isn't it? 18:23.142 --> 18:23.703 It's exciting. 18:23.763 --> 18:30.867 Ben is turning into a flamboyant producer who comes up with all kinds of flourishes to improve and enrich our lives. 18:30.908 --> 18:31.948 We appreciate it very much. 18:32.168 --> 18:38.573 And we've been trying to gauge whether this surprise bit of audio is going to be genuinely surprising or a little bit disappointing. 18:39.093 --> 18:40.834 We don't know anything about what this could be. 18:40.874 --> 18:44.696 In the past, we had a very exciting audio clip from Fiona Bruce. 18:45.157 --> 18:46.738 One from Stephen Fry. 18:47.398 --> 18:48.058 What else? 18:48.078 --> 18:49.779 Those are the only surprises we've really had. 18:49.980 --> 18:52.741 Oh, we had the teacher on the phone was a surprise for you. 18:52.761 --> 18:54.782 That was a great... Once or twice I've surprised Adam. 18:55.283 --> 18:58.685 But never have we had our producer surprise us both. 18:59.165 --> 19:07.310 So we're basically excited, but also because we're quite experienced and world-weary, we are expecting to be disappointed. 19:08.050 --> 19:10.552 So what's the best thing this piece of audio could be, Adam? 19:10.592 --> 19:11.293 The very best. 19:11.313 --> 19:12.113 The very best. 19:12.774 --> 19:15.276 Well, personally speaking, David Bowie. 19:16.116 --> 19:19.399 Saying that he lists a piece of audio with David Bowie saying he listens to the show. 19:19.419 --> 19:20.940 Yeah, I mean, but there's no reason for it. 19:20.960 --> 19:24.103 It's got to be reacting from like if you were David Bowie and you listen to the show. 19:24.303 --> 19:25.123 Listen to David Bowie. 19:26.304 --> 19:35.907 I just want to say that I listen to your program, me and Joey, and the little gnomes in the bottom of the garden, and we really enjoy it very much. 19:37.587 --> 19:40.268 We'd like to come on and do a song wars with you. 19:40.448 --> 19:41.368 Yes, that's right. 19:41.568 --> 19:44.989 You mentioned a while back that you'd like famous people to mentor your song war songs. 19:45.069 --> 19:47.510 I'd very much like to mentor Joe, because he's my favourite. 19:47.570 --> 19:50.271 I should very much like to mentor Joe. 19:50.371 --> 19:54.973 So that's the best it could be, and if he was mentoring me as well. 19:55.153 --> 19:56.313 That would be amazing. 19:56.333 --> 19:57.814 Who would I get to be mentored by? 19:57.914 --> 19:58.334 Nobody. 19:59.094 --> 19:59.715 Oh, Scooch. 20:01.075 --> 20:02.616 Hey, this is Jackie from Scooch. 20:03.816 --> 20:05.697 Hello, this is Craig from Scooch. 20:05.937 --> 20:06.857 Love the show. 20:07.038 --> 20:08.698 We're coming on to mentor you. 20:08.738 --> 20:10.199 Get ready for Scooch. 20:11.215 --> 20:12.556 That would be your favourite thing. 20:12.696 --> 20:12.936 Yeah. 20:13.116 --> 20:13.336 Yeah. 20:13.396 --> 20:15.197 And what's the most disappointing thing it could be? 20:16.478 --> 20:17.939 Maybe just a recording of Ben as a child. 20:17.959 --> 20:19.360 Hello, this is my lean class. 20:19.800 --> 20:20.921 Oh, come on, that would be exciting. 20:20.941 --> 20:21.201 Would it? 20:21.241 --> 20:22.142 Would you get excited about that? 20:22.182 --> 20:23.202 Yeah, she's attractive. 20:23.782 --> 20:24.323 How about you? 20:24.363 --> 20:25.804 Who would you think was disappointing? 20:26.204 --> 20:27.184 Oh, disappointing? 20:27.325 --> 20:32.488 Well, if it was a recording of Ben as a child or something, that would be disappointing. 20:32.588 --> 20:33.448 Yeah. 20:33.648 --> 20:35.850 Maybe if it was, I don't know. 20:36.030 --> 20:36.410 I don't know. 20:36.490 --> 20:37.391 I think we better just hear it. 20:37.411 --> 20:37.991 Yeah, we should. 20:38.451 --> 20:39.552 So here is the mystery audio. 20:40.216 --> 20:46.137 Hi Adam and Jo, this is the Icelandic ice maiden. 20:46.297 --> 20:48.458 Just wondering what's going on really. 20:48.478 --> 20:53.699 I've been waiting quite some time for my song wars. 20:54.299 --> 20:55.619 Nothing seems to be happening. 20:55.639 --> 21:01.320 He's been keeping me hanging on for weeks and weeks, but then nothing happens. 21:02.360 --> 21:06.201 So I'm going to leave it up to you guys to make the final decision. 21:06.983 --> 21:11.677 You've got my phone number, you've got my email address, so maybe I'll hear from you, maybe I won't. 21:13.895 --> 21:15.456 So just to fill people in, right? 21:15.776 --> 21:19.318 This is a lady that first got in touch with the show a few weeks ago. 21:19.338 --> 21:20.639 What's her name? 21:22.220 --> 21:25.222 Something... Sif Goodman's daughter? 21:25.302 --> 21:27.623 No, that's Bjork's name. 21:28.124 --> 21:29.304 But it's something like that. 21:30.065 --> 21:34.267 And she claimed to be a glamorous model, which we laughed off. 21:34.407 --> 21:35.708 We went on her website. 21:35.788 --> 21:36.849 She is a glamorous model. 21:36.909 --> 21:37.949 Yeah, she's very glamorous. 21:37.969 --> 21:40.511 She's incredibly beautiful and she's an Icelandic lady. 21:40.931 --> 21:45.234 I actually went home and boasted about the fact of my wife, which caused a little bit of domestic problems. 21:45.994 --> 21:51.658 And so I was sort of, in a way, part of me was hoping the problem might have just gone away, you know, and it's one of those things that goes out of your life. 21:51.998 --> 21:55.681 So hearing Sif on the phone there, she has a good tone. 21:56.662 --> 22:04.026 Did you tell listeners that we had promised maybe to do an Icelandic, a Nordic, a Björk, Fleet Fox's style? 22:04.087 --> 22:08.029 I know they're not Icelandic, but a kind of... Yeah, who's that band that we were playing the other day? 22:08.049 --> 22:10.511 A kind of echoey, folky song wars. 22:10.931 --> 22:14.514 They're not called tongue, but there's another band with a... Tongue or a bit like that. 22:14.534 --> 22:14.874 Yeah. 22:15.755 --> 22:19.017 We had sort of talked about doing that, dedicated to her. 22:19.218 --> 22:19.418 Yes. 22:19.538 --> 22:22.020 And Icelandic... In fact, was it even her suggestion that we do that? 22:22.040 --> 22:22.800 I think it was, yeah. 22:23.301 --> 22:26.263 And that's why she's built up a sense of expectation. 22:26.703 --> 22:31.947 And what a great distillation of a disappointed lady's tone there. 22:32.188 --> 22:32.728 I know. 22:33.008 --> 22:37.172 Do you know, she really captured something there that sends a chill down a man's spine. 22:37.412 --> 22:38.933 And then further down the spine. 22:39.193 --> 22:41.554 Yeah, to the grinal area. 22:42.554 --> 22:44.534 Plus the Icelandic accent is adorable. 22:44.554 --> 22:57.257 It's very adorable, but she does sound disappointed and that there's a sort of note of resignation in there as if she never expected that we'd do it in the first place and that we've damned hopes that were... She's thrown down the sexy gauntlet. 22:57.597 --> 22:59.918 She's thrown down a sexy lacy gauntlet. 22:59.938 --> 23:00.418 What are you gonna do? 23:00.458 --> 23:01.820 Are you gonna pick up the Lacey Gauntlets? 23:01.840 --> 23:03.422 We'd better do it then, hadn't we? 23:03.462 --> 23:06.486 If I start picking up Lacey Gauntlets... Your wife will be an upset. 23:06.506 --> 23:07.828 My wife's gonna get beaten to death. 23:07.848 --> 23:09.330 Yeah, but you're just writing her a song. 23:09.350 --> 23:10.111 That's true, isn't it? 23:10.311 --> 23:10.572 Yeah. 23:10.592 --> 23:15.638 There's no actual... And if your wife listens to that, there's no way she can say that she shouldn't respond to that. 23:15.658 --> 23:16.580 That's true, isn't it? 23:17.040 --> 23:18.140 What are you going to do? 23:18.160 --> 23:22.241 We've got to write the song and then we've got to get her in the studio. 23:22.661 --> 23:23.121 Yeah, we do. 23:23.181 --> 23:28.383 We do have to get her in the studio and do some really sort of uncomfortable radio. 23:28.683 --> 23:30.063 Yeah, and then we'll both get fired. 23:30.083 --> 23:31.623 There'll be a big sleaze scandal. 23:31.763 --> 23:32.043 Right. 23:32.303 --> 23:37.204 You know, because people don't like it when men of a certain age get sleazy and lecherous with beautiful women. 23:37.705 --> 23:39.885 Doesn't do well for anyone, right? 23:40.525 --> 23:42.446 But does well for a man of a certain age. 23:42.466 --> 23:43.346 It's nice when it's happening. 23:44.386 --> 23:45.767 Anyway, listen, so there you go. 23:45.807 --> 23:47.529 Thank you very much, Sif, though, for your message. 23:47.629 --> 23:49.010 Thanks, Ben, for that surprise. 23:49.090 --> 23:51.453 Did she call off her own accord, or did you provoke that? 23:51.473 --> 23:53.254 Kind of provoked it. 23:53.274 --> 23:54.876 Oh, you provoked it, you lunatic. 23:55.636 --> 23:59.580 Well, I suppose in a way that makes it better, because she would be insane if she just called off her own accord. 23:59.760 --> 24:00.441 I don't think so. 24:00.481 --> 24:01.201 I would have liked that. 24:01.221 --> 24:01.461 Really? 24:02.603 --> 24:03.904 Here's another track for you listeners. 24:03.964 --> 24:10.973 This is more of the current vogue for Crazy Sounds of the Eighties, Empire of the Sun with Walking on a Dream. 24:18.803 --> 24:19.083 How? 24:19.223 --> 24:28.913 It's to Google Empire of the Sun and see how many pages up the search they take over from images of the Steven Spielberg film. 24:28.973 --> 24:29.273 Yes. 24:29.793 --> 24:35.239 Well, they would have a hard time at the moment, though, because presumably Empire of the Sun hits her up after Bale's tirade. 24:35.979 --> 24:36.620 Do you think? 24:36.800 --> 24:37.120 Yeah. 24:37.741 --> 24:41.625 Why would people search for Empire of the Sun so that they could be reminded when he was innocent? 24:42.165 --> 24:42.786 Yes, exactly. 24:42.866 --> 24:43.928 Where he got his stars. 24:44.148 --> 24:44.608 That's right. 24:44.669 --> 24:54.722 Yeah, well at the moment you get two pages of Empire of the Sun's Spielberg imagery, and then on page three, the crazy Aussie 80s retro band start popping up. 24:55.183 --> 24:56.244 I like their outfits. 24:56.264 --> 24:58.327 You were talking last week about their crazy poster. 24:58.627 --> 25:03.371 I was thinking about the fact that maybe, because they are extremely ludicrously dressed, right? 25:03.731 --> 25:04.812 Like no one else at the moment. 25:04.832 --> 25:08.675 Well, he's got, one of them's got the Adam Ant sort of band across his eyes. 25:08.735 --> 25:09.516 White stripe thing. 25:09.656 --> 25:13.019 And a kind of bellowy-sum, spiky peroxide hairdo. 25:13.119 --> 25:14.280 Nice bellowy-sum reference. 25:14.300 --> 25:14.820 Thanks, mate. 25:15.101 --> 25:24.368 And a Michael Jackson mid-90s style sort of, uh, king of, of chocolate land or wherever Michael Jackson was king of. 25:24.849 --> 25:26.470 You know, the place in Chichi Chichi Bang Bang. 25:26.810 --> 25:28.191 What was that place called? 25:28.211 --> 25:29.332 Yeah, it was called Chocolate Land. 25:29.353 --> 25:29.813 Chocolate Land. 25:30.193 --> 25:33.176 Emperor of a fictional, uh, Rococo State. 25:33.276 --> 25:33.576 Yes. 25:33.777 --> 25:44.967 And then the guy, it's all quite Adam and the ants actually, but then they've also got some Frank Herbert dune style imagery, a futuristic city, and then they've got a bit of Rudyard Kipling style tiger action. 25:45.107 --> 25:48.971 Presumably these chaps were quite badly picked on as young Australian boys. 25:48.991 --> 25:49.551 Do you think so? 25:49.571 --> 25:51.032 They've got a touch of the sort of mica 25:51.773 --> 25:52.353 flamboyant. 25:52.433 --> 25:57.475 Because Australia, when they were growing up, presumably, this is a very broad generalisation about the culture. 25:57.535 --> 25:59.535 Looking forward to it. 25:59.775 --> 26:05.437 But I mean, it would not be one of the kindest places to be flamboyant in that way, growing up as an Australian teen. 26:05.457 --> 26:11.298 It's quite a rough, tough... Yeah, we've both seen the film Australia, so we know quite a lot about the reality of life in that country. 26:11.318 --> 26:11.758 Exactly. 26:11.798 --> 26:18.360 If you're not out there droving and you're fully heterosexual, you're going to get a bad time, generally, I would think, right? 26:19.200 --> 26:21.562 Compared to, for example, the Kiwis, who are a lot softer. 26:21.722 --> 26:24.044 I was watching the new series of Flight of the Conchords. 26:24.344 --> 26:24.684 Yes. 26:24.745 --> 26:27.747 Which is going out in the States at the moment, and it is wicked. 26:27.947 --> 26:31.790 There's a very funny episode about the... They go to war with the Australians. 26:32.570 --> 26:32.811 Right. 26:33.051 --> 26:39.976 And there's some Australian guys who start teasing them and torturing them, and then later on, Germaine gets an Australian girlfriend and... 26:40.376 --> 26:43.358 That causes all kinds of problems, directed by Michel Gondry. 26:43.618 --> 26:44.979 It's really great, the second series. 26:45.039 --> 26:46.000 Anyway, that's By the By. 26:46.380 --> 26:49.603 But this is inspired as well by all things 80s, of course. 26:50.243 --> 26:52.505 And Joe's got an 80s free play coming up. 26:52.825 --> 26:55.567 And we were thinking as well that maybe we should do an 80s song wars. 26:56.127 --> 26:57.768 But now we're conflicted by Sif. 26:57.808 --> 27:00.250 Because of Sif's passionate message. 27:00.350 --> 27:02.851 Incidentally, do you think Sif used to be known as Jif? 27:03.292 --> 27:07.014 Yeah, then she had her name changed so she was more recognisable across Europe. 27:07.294 --> 27:08.755 She had to less spend... what? 27:08.815 --> 27:12.618 She had to spend less money on branding all her pencils. 27:12.898 --> 27:13.158 Yes. 27:15.919 --> 27:18.360 and her business cards and letterheadings. 27:19.520 --> 27:20.280 So what should we do? 27:20.320 --> 27:24.821 Should we go for an 80s song or should we appease Sif and pick up her gauntlet? 27:25.041 --> 27:28.422 Well, the edge is taken off Sif's plea because Ben provoked it. 27:28.442 --> 27:29.062 Right. 27:29.082 --> 27:30.103 You know what? 27:30.363 --> 27:33.303 If she'd actually called in and left that message, that would be different. 27:33.483 --> 27:34.104 Well, she did that. 27:34.124 --> 27:34.884 I mean, did she? 27:34.904 --> 27:35.824 She was happy to do so. 27:38.038 --> 27:38.479 Did she? 27:38.819 --> 27:39.119 Yeah. 27:39.560 --> 27:40.381 So it's as good as? 27:40.881 --> 27:42.323 Well, let us know, listeners, what you think. 27:42.343 --> 27:54.336 Do you want us to do a sort of Icelandic song wars in a Björk style, or would you rather we did the ultimate 80s song wars, to try and create songs that sound as 80s as physically possible? 27:54.376 --> 27:55.557 Yeah, the ultimate 80s song. 27:56.178 --> 28:01.222 I mean, most of our jingles, like Garageband is good for doing that because a lot of those sounds are very 80s. 28:01.422 --> 28:05.385 And I do an 80s singing voice quite a lot on my song wars anyway. 28:05.405 --> 28:05.805 What's that? 28:05.945 --> 28:07.506 It's sort of that. 28:07.827 --> 28:09.048 Oh, I see. 28:09.108 --> 28:09.708 Martin Fry. 28:09.748 --> 28:10.248 Exactly. 28:10.268 --> 28:10.489 Yeah. 28:10.509 --> 28:11.810 The declarative. 28:11.830 --> 28:12.690 Is that a word? 28:12.770 --> 28:13.771 Declamatory. 28:14.311 --> 28:16.273 But I would do something very different. 28:16.733 --> 28:17.154 Yes. 28:17.174 --> 28:19.277 For this one. 28:19.618 --> 28:21.601 I'm going to play one of those kind of tracks a bit later on. 28:21.641 --> 28:23.604 A new wavy sort of thing by new music. 28:23.624 --> 28:25.887 But here's some 80s bunkum for you. 28:25.907 --> 28:28.351 This is a track from the Human League album Hysteria. 28:28.571 --> 28:29.953 Was it their follow-up to Dare? 28:30.795 --> 28:31.215 Was it? 28:31.736 --> 28:34.357 I think it might have been, or was there one in between? 28:34.417 --> 28:43.042 I can't quite remember, but it was definitely their attempt to recover the success of Dare and release another amazingly classic album. 28:43.742 --> 28:47.964 It didn't quite happen, but it's got one or two very good tracks on it, including this one, which is called Louise. 28:49.325 --> 28:49.825 Here it is. 28:51.786 --> 28:53.246 Good little spoken word passage there. 28:53.266 --> 28:56.547 What kind of wounds do you not want to heal then apart from ones that make you feel really good? 28:57.247 --> 28:57.908 Those are the only ones. 28:58.048 --> 28:58.648 Oh, right, right. 28:58.688 --> 28:58.908 Yeah. 28:59.268 --> 29:01.829 Which aren't really wounds, are they, if they've made you feel good? 29:02.149 --> 29:02.829 Not as such. 29:02.949 --> 29:04.109 They're pleasure wounds. 29:04.129 --> 29:05.810 Yeah, it's not like the film Crash. 29:06.530 --> 29:06.770 No. 29:07.310 --> 29:08.591 No, not that sort of pleasure wound. 29:09.651 --> 29:11.533 Um, this is Adam and Joel in BBC Six Music. 29:11.553 --> 29:14.336 That was, uh, Human League with Louise. 29:14.356 --> 29:14.996 Sounded good, man. 29:15.016 --> 29:16.057 It was so stripped down. 29:16.138 --> 29:16.478 Yeah. 29:16.938 --> 29:21.483 And actually that galvanised us into thinking that maybe we should go for the 80s for Song Wars. 29:21.946 --> 29:24.968 Well, we're letting, we're still going to take listener votes on that, I think. 29:25.069 --> 29:25.309 Okay. 29:25.329 --> 29:26.309 See what the listeners think. 29:27.050 --> 29:33.055 We also noticed there that obviously that had a spoken word passage and we were thinking that was quite popular in the 80s. 29:33.855 --> 29:38.599 We could think of two other 80s songs that have spoken word passages, The Look of Love by ABC. 29:38.699 --> 29:39.360 What does he say there? 29:39.460 --> 29:43.623 He goes, Martin, some people say Martin, one day you might find true love. 29:44.504 --> 29:48.067 I say maybe, but I still can't find the answer to the one thing, the one thing. 29:48.947 --> 29:50.349 and that you can't find or something. 29:50.429 --> 29:52.411 He does that, yeah, that's brilliant. 29:52.431 --> 29:54.133 Yeah, he does a great sort of musical site. 29:54.153 --> 30:03.243 And then Fantastic Day by haircut100 also had a bit where he goes, I tried to shave myself again, be a happier guy, something like that. 30:03.263 --> 30:05.145 Does he say shave myself or save myself? 30:05.385 --> 30:06.946 Well, I always used to hear it as Shane. 30:06.966 --> 30:08.708 That'd be a happier guy. 30:09.248 --> 30:09.948 Yeah, that's right. 30:10.189 --> 30:12.931 So if we did an 80s song wars, we'd definitely have to have a spoken word. 30:12.951 --> 30:14.392 Yeah, spoken word passage in it. 30:14.432 --> 30:14.692 Yeah. 30:15.372 --> 30:19.616 But let us know what you think, whether we should do the Icelandic one or an ultimate 80s song wars. 30:19.636 --> 30:24.699 We're going to play a trail and then we've got a session track coming up from Young Marble Giants from the John Peel show. 30:24.719 --> 30:25.840 I'm looking forward to hearing that. 30:26.220 --> 30:30.003 And then I think we'll catch up with Text the Nation just after the top of the hour. 30:30.303 --> 30:32.425 This is Adam and Jo here on BBC Six Music. 30:32.685 --> 30:35.952 This is the voice of the big, pretty castle. 30:36.092 --> 30:38.176 It is the top of the hour. 30:38.317 --> 30:39.699 Ooh, that's wonderful. 30:40.040 --> 30:43.046 I got so bored with the last hour and had it scored. 30:47.484 --> 30:51.846 So there was a question mark next to that one in your list, Joe, at the beginning of the show. 30:51.886 --> 30:57.789 You were putting question marks next to certain songs you weren't absolutely 100% about. 30:59.030 --> 30:59.610 Well, I don't know. 30:59.750 --> 31:01.111 I was listening, sort of half listening. 31:01.151 --> 31:03.692 I was actually reading some text donations, but it sounded all right. 31:03.712 --> 31:06.193 It sounded a bit like something that might be used on a mobile phone. 31:06.213 --> 31:07.353 I think it was at some point. 31:07.413 --> 31:07.774 Oh, was it? 31:07.794 --> 31:08.314 There you go. 31:08.354 --> 31:10.055 Well, then I should have put a cross by that one. 31:10.135 --> 31:12.336 That was Super Naturals with Smile. 31:12.396 --> 31:13.196 No insult to them. 31:13.456 --> 31:15.357 No, no, you wouldn't want to insult the supernaturals. 31:15.377 --> 31:18.158 No, but, you know, maybe it's been heard enough already. 31:18.458 --> 31:18.858 Maybe. 31:19.638 --> 31:24.120 But music, we should be playing exciting new stuff like Louise by the Human League. 31:24.180 --> 31:25.600 There you go. 31:26.260 --> 31:27.581 Now it's time for Text the Nation. 31:27.601 --> 31:28.241 Let's have a jingle. 31:30.522 --> 31:31.262 Text the Nation. 31:31.402 --> 31:32.442 Text, text, text. 31:32.582 --> 31:33.322 Text the Nation. 31:33.383 --> 31:34.243 What if I don't want to? 31:34.583 --> 31:35.243 Text the Nation. 31:35.263 --> 31:35.803 It doesn't matter. 31:35.863 --> 31:36.063 Text. 31:38.573 --> 31:43.235 So the subject of Text the Nation listeners this week is street acting or what are we going to call it? 31:43.255 --> 31:43.915 Public pretending. 31:44.096 --> 31:44.916 Public pretending. 31:45.016 --> 31:51.979 Things that you do in public, sort of miming that you do to mask some forbidden behaviour or embarrassing behaviour. 31:52.019 --> 31:52.299 Sometimes. 31:52.319 --> 31:54.080 It doesn't necessarily have to be mimed. 31:54.140 --> 31:56.821 It's just a little bit of theatre to cover something up, for example. 31:56.841 --> 31:58.282 You get the idea when we read some out. 31:58.482 --> 32:00.704 I've got one more example from my own locker here. 32:01.244 --> 32:12.973 Sometimes when I'm in a shop, right, and I've gone down and done a bit of browsing, but the browsing has taken a bit too long for me to make a speedy exit, especially if I'm the only person in the shop. 32:13.534 --> 32:15.095 The shop assistant is there, right? 32:15.715 --> 32:18.898 And I'm embarrassed that I don't intend to buy anything. 32:19.298 --> 32:21.500 So I want to just get out of the shop but I can't face it. 32:22.261 --> 32:27.845 So I say to the shop assistant, what time are you closing tonight? 32:27.945 --> 32:28.406 You don't? 32:28.586 --> 32:28.786 Yeah. 32:29.086 --> 32:29.507 Really? 32:29.947 --> 32:31.448 To imply that I might be coming back. 32:31.468 --> 32:31.949 Coming back. 32:32.789 --> 32:38.815 I haven't got my wallet or sometimes I pack my trousers or look in my wallet and go, oh! 32:40.856 --> 32:43.578 As if I'm going to go out to the cash machine and then come back. 32:44.139 --> 32:46.201 Ah, I think I might have done that one. 32:46.766 --> 32:48.026 I'm, what's on your clothes? 32:48.306 --> 32:50.167 I'll be, I'll be, I'm, cause I'm coming back. 32:50.287 --> 32:52.747 That's in a small shop where you're the only customer. 32:52.907 --> 32:53.227 Exactly. 32:53.267 --> 32:54.988 And the shopkeeper looks pretty excited. 32:55.328 --> 32:55.768 Right, exactly. 32:55.788 --> 32:57.948 And where you've had to say hello on the way in. 32:58.028 --> 32:58.248 Yeah. 32:58.528 --> 33:03.729 Cause sometimes it can be weird to go into a shop with just you and the shopkeeper and not say something to them. 33:03.929 --> 33:04.149 Right. 33:04.189 --> 33:08.910 It's like walking into someone's front room and looking at some of their belongings and just walking out again. 33:08.950 --> 33:10.670 I know it's, and it's rude not to really. 33:10.690 --> 33:13.731 And then it's even ruder not to buy something or you can sense the disappointment. 33:13.951 --> 33:17.594 Especially if the shop is full of quite weird or quirky items. 33:17.774 --> 33:18.614 Quirky items. 33:18.634 --> 33:19.095 Do you know what I mean? 33:19.115 --> 33:22.697 Like, you go in there and you sort of think, ooh, look, they've got quirky items in there. 33:22.717 --> 33:23.838 It's run by Pauline Quirk. 33:24.098 --> 33:24.718 Right, exactly. 33:24.758 --> 33:25.879 Pauline Quirk's working there. 33:25.899 --> 33:35.826 She's filled it with loads of her little, uh, the shop is called Quirk Box and she's filled it with loads of little knick-knacks and things she's found and you, you get seduced into going into that, into Quirk Box. 33:36.086 --> 33:37.787 But then you, you'd have no intention of buying anything. 33:38.087 --> 33:42.330 Not only do you have to grin right the way through your browsing, right? 33:42.550 --> 33:42.950 And sort of go, 33:44.011 --> 33:45.532 You don't have to. 33:45.672 --> 33:46.413 I know, but you have to. 33:46.453 --> 33:50.056 Otherwise, Quirk might start weeping because she knows that you hate the shop. 33:50.076 --> 33:53.018 Well, you grin because the products are making you look so happy. 33:53.078 --> 33:53.538 Exactly. 33:53.578 --> 33:53.799 Yeah. 33:53.859 --> 33:55.240 I'm sort of thinking, love your shop. 33:55.260 --> 33:56.020 That's just inane. 33:56.040 --> 33:59.123 What I'm implying is Pauline, I love Quirkbox. 33:59.143 --> 34:00.764 She'll be desperate for you to get out of the shop. 34:01.144 --> 34:04.367 She'll even have her finger hovering over the alert, the police alert. 34:04.447 --> 34:07.209 Listen, obviously Pauline or the shop assistant 34:07.369 --> 34:09.550 doesn't care at all about my reaction. 34:09.891 --> 34:13.073 No, because her primary source of income is Birds of a Feather DVDs. 34:13.113 --> 34:13.193 Yeah. 34:13.213 --> 34:14.554 The shop's just a sideline. 34:14.914 --> 34:18.316 Listen, it's more to Pauline than Birds of a Feather and Quirkbox. 34:18.356 --> 34:19.717 Yeah, she's a very accomplished actress. 34:19.737 --> 34:20.238 Yeah, that's true. 34:20.338 --> 34:23.820 But what I'm saying is that this is the thing about this text the nation. 34:23.940 --> 34:27.022 These things are almost entirely for your own peace of mind. 34:27.102 --> 34:30.525 Now you've filled up the whole allocated link time with your story. 34:30.545 --> 34:32.227 Well, let's have a couple of suggestions. 34:32.267 --> 34:35.470 Here are some that have come in from listeners for public pretending. 34:36.411 --> 34:38.093 This is from Simone in Stoke. 34:38.673 --> 34:45.220 If I trip while walking down the street, I'll immediately start to run, to disguise the trip as a kind of start to my run. 34:45.920 --> 34:49.743 I still do it, even though I've witnessed others doing it with very unconvincing results. 34:49.803 --> 34:50.044 Yeah. 34:50.644 --> 34:59.051 So, masking a trip as a kind of... In fact, I saw... I went to dinner with the brilliant and lovely magician Darren Brown once. 34:59.131 --> 34:59.291 Yeah. 34:59.871 --> 35:02.453 And we were coming out of the restaurant and he tripped. 35:03.394 --> 35:22.027 and he fell over quite badly he was going to literally fall on his face and his recovery was so flamboyant you know he had to really swing his arms to keep himself from falling over yeah and he turned it into a big sort of ballet move right but there was so much momentum and kinetics that the ballet move was was really huge and flamboyant 35:22.427 --> 35:25.589 So it was a very eccentric bit of sudden physical movement. 35:25.749 --> 35:28.110 That's the thing, sometimes to recover from those things. 35:28.190 --> 35:30.051 But he did it brilliantly is the end of my story. 35:31.212 --> 35:35.734 He went completely the other way, he made it huge and ridiculous and therefore brilliantly recovered. 35:35.774 --> 35:36.715 That's one way of going. 35:36.795 --> 35:46.960 A friend of mine told me a story about when he was out cycling and he was going round and round about, he wasn't paying enough attention and he wiped out spectacularly in front of a lot of traffic, right? 35:47.000 --> 35:48.281 Traffic all came to a halt 35:48.901 --> 35:54.466 Yeah, people were sort of gasping a little bit because it looked as if he might have really done his... He was centre stage, everyone's staring at him. 35:54.486 --> 35:54.987 Yeah, yeah. 35:55.287 --> 36:01.993 And he'd really bashed his leg quite badly, so he got up and his leg immediately buckled because it was so painful. 36:02.594 --> 36:07.879 So it was double humiliation for the guy, he was still there, because in that situation all you want to do is be somewhere else. 36:07.979 --> 36:08.139 Yeah. 36:08.519 --> 36:11.542 So instead he stood up and he bowed. 36:12.343 --> 36:14.765 He turned round and bowed to everyone who was watching. 36:15.226 --> 36:18.649 And then he sort of put his hands in the air like, yay, I'm the champion. 36:18.669 --> 36:19.830 That's the perfect response. 36:19.890 --> 36:20.110 Right. 36:20.450 --> 36:23.754 And then he got on his bike and hobbled off because his leg was absolutely magnetic. 36:23.774 --> 36:25.635 And then went somewhere in private and screamed. 36:25.675 --> 36:26.897 Started screaming and weeping. 36:27.037 --> 36:28.018 Here's another one from a listener. 36:28.038 --> 36:31.481 This is from JP in, I don't know how to say that place. 36:31.521 --> 36:32.422 How do you say that place? 36:33.867 --> 36:50.195 uh ancient ancient uh he says and this is a good one i think everybody does this if i'm on a squeaky chair and it makes a fart noise i have to wiggle and shuffle to replicate the noise to prove that it was the chair and not me everybody does that absolutely 36:53.978 --> 36:56.920 And then sometimes you do it if you do do a fart. 36:56.961 --> 36:57.581 That's the thing. 36:57.641 --> 36:59.463 And then you desperately think, well, what am I sitting on? 36:59.483 --> 37:02.065 Airborne... Maybe I can make it make a similar noise. 37:02.245 --> 37:02.866 Quick, quick. 37:03.447 --> 37:06.910 Airborne toxic events are the cause of a great deal of public pretending. 37:07.350 --> 37:10.991 because you're trying, obviously that's a massive thing that you want to cover up a lot of the time, right? 37:11.291 --> 37:34.277 What happens to me sometimes, and this happened the other day, I was outdoors, I was coming out of Sainsbury's and there was a covered walkway there and it was quite a blustery day, so I thought this is an ideal opportunity for an airborne toxic event and there's no one around, so I unleashed the event, but at that moment a couple came out from a store, right, and ploughed directly through the airborne toxic event, right? 37:34.657 --> 37:40.621 to the extent that I was certain that they would have had to say something, because it wasn't, it was quite a severe attack. 37:42.442 --> 37:43.423 Of the windy. 37:43.583 --> 37:44.323 Yes, yes. 37:44.884 --> 37:52.789 So, again, mainly for my own benefit, I just started talking and humming to myself to cover up whatever comments they might have made. 37:57.313 --> 38:01.656 I thought that would be a better thing to do than to actually hear. 38:01.756 --> 38:08.782 Because I was terrified that I might hear them going, did you smell that airborne toxic event from that revolting man? 38:08.902 --> 38:13.446 If you ever wonder when you actually started going insane, that was the moment. 38:14.147 --> 38:16.409 That was the moment when you stepped over the line. 38:18.871 --> 38:22.214 No, no, I'm not hearing your comments about my father. 38:22.234 --> 38:24.456 That doesn't even fit the text the nation remit. 38:24.496 --> 38:25.417 That's just mad. 38:26.037 --> 38:28.259 That's when we do madness. 38:28.499 --> 38:29.821 OK. 38:29.841 --> 38:30.401 Here's some music. 38:30.421 --> 38:30.561 Yeah. 38:30.581 --> 38:31.302 Are we going to say? 38:31.522 --> 38:33.624 No, I was going to say that we're going to play some music. 38:34.024 --> 38:34.185 Yeah. 38:34.205 --> 38:34.685 Well, we are. 38:34.865 --> 38:35.105 Yeah. 38:35.225 --> 38:38.669 This is now who's the band and what's the name of the band is winter sleep. 38:38.909 --> 38:39.109 Right. 38:39.229 --> 38:40.250 And the track is Oblivion. 38:40.370 --> 38:41.610 There you go, that's Wintersleep. 38:42.311 --> 38:43.291 Thanks very much. 38:43.311 --> 38:44.932 Thanks for Wintersleep. 38:45.132 --> 38:45.592 I'm 17 years old. 38:45.612 --> 38:47.312 There you go, there's Wintersleep. 38:47.332 --> 38:48.473 They're from Nova Scotia. 38:48.713 --> 38:49.113 Thank you. 38:49.133 --> 38:51.754 Here's your Wintersleep. 38:51.814 --> 38:55.315 It says on the notes here, you may be familiar with their side project Holy F. 38:55.715 --> 38:55.875 No. 38:57.416 --> 38:58.757 So that's a no, Ben. 38:59.177 --> 39:01.919 But they played it a lot on 6 Music last year. 39:01.939 --> 39:02.599 There's a picture of them. 39:02.639 --> 39:06.641 Our producer, Ben, started to put full-colour pictures of the bands on our sheet. 39:06.761 --> 39:08.242 Aspect ratio's off, though, Ben. 39:08.342 --> 39:09.483 Yeah, they're a bit compressed. 39:09.643 --> 39:12.385 That looks like a 4x3 that's been squashed to 16x9, Ben. 39:12.485 --> 39:17.247 A couple of them are a little on the chubby side anyway, I think, and it's not doing them any favours to have the photo squashed. 39:17.267 --> 39:18.588 They're certainly not dressing up, are they? 39:18.628 --> 39:19.689 Not like Empire of the Sun. 39:20.129 --> 39:23.031 There's lots of sweaters and shirts hanging out and scruffy jeans. 39:23.831 --> 39:26.133 What kind of impression are they thinking they're going to make like that? 39:26.913 --> 39:27.393 You know what I mean? 39:27.433 --> 39:28.814 He hasn't even polished his trainers. 39:28.834 --> 39:30.235 It's as if they've been asleep all winter. 39:30.615 --> 39:38.521 Now, we had a couple of bits of feedback, I suppose you would call it, about the show that kind of crossed over into the public sphere during the week. 39:38.801 --> 39:39.081 We did. 39:39.101 --> 39:44.124 There was an article in the Media Guardian that mentioned the show that we won't go into because it's controversial. 39:44.485 --> 39:44.765 Is it? 39:44.805 --> 39:45.005 Why? 39:45.025 --> 39:47.547 Because they may have... It's just best not to talk about that sort of thing. 39:47.907 --> 39:49.428 We're not sure where they got their figures from. 39:49.468 --> 39:50.188 You're talking about it. 39:50.449 --> 39:50.709 Okay. 39:51.229 --> 39:51.429 Don't. 39:51.649 --> 39:53.050 Well, it was about the ratings, right? 39:53.090 --> 39:54.551 Well, now you're talking about it more. 39:54.731 --> 39:55.672 But I'm trying to explain. 39:55.692 --> 39:56.372 It's a radio show. 39:56.392 --> 39:59.214 People are going to be going, what's the point of bringing up a subject and then obfuscating it? 39:59.234 --> 40:00.235 Because it's tantalising. 40:00.275 --> 40:01.436 People can look for themselves. 40:01.456 --> 40:02.617 You think they like to be tantalised? 40:02.637 --> 40:02.917 Yeah. 40:03.077 --> 40:05.959 They like to have a little bit of, you know, research to do themselves. 40:05.979 --> 40:07.300 People loathe being tantalised. 40:07.420 --> 40:07.700 Do they? 40:07.780 --> 40:08.881 Yeah, they want it all on a plate. 40:09.621 --> 40:10.001 Do they? 40:10.502 --> 40:11.582 They want to eat it. 40:11.903 --> 40:13.043 Well, you're the man for that job. 40:13.063 --> 40:14.164 What do you mean by that? 40:14.184 --> 40:15.045 Plate presentation. 40:15.865 --> 40:19.327 I told you not to put it on the plate and immediately out came the plate with it on it. 40:20.468 --> 40:22.229 That's what I'm saying, I'm making them happy. 40:23.049 --> 40:34.096 Anyway, there was that and the other thing was on Radio 4's Roger Bolton presented show feedback where listeners have a chance to tell Radio 4 what they like and dislike, right? 40:34.216 --> 40:35.116 About BBC programmes. 40:35.136 --> 40:45.082 Yeah, there was a segment on this programme and a very lovely lady had written into feedback and told them how much she liked this show so they ended up playing a clip of it on feedback, right? 40:45.222 --> 40:45.622 That's right. 40:45.662 --> 40:47.083 Her name was Catherine Ayer. 40:47.163 --> 40:48.624 I don't have a clip of her actually speaking. 40:48.664 --> 40:49.665 She's from Darlington. 40:50.025 --> 40:57.430 But to quote her, she said, this show has just the right blend of lightheartedness without stupidity or rudeness that other presenters resort to. 40:57.510 --> 40:59.852 Obviously, she hasn't been listening for that long. 41:01.153 --> 41:04.315 But that's what a lovely thing to do, and then to send it into feedback. 41:04.435 --> 41:05.776 I was absolutely bowled over. 41:05.836 --> 41:06.677 She sounded really nice. 41:06.717 --> 41:10.419 And I've done you a little song, Catherine, if you're listening in celebration. 41:10.439 --> 41:10.980 I say little. 41:11.000 --> 41:12.321 I mean, it's barely a song. 41:12.441 --> 41:13.541 It's more of a jingle for you. 41:13.581 --> 41:14.082 But here it is. 41:15.250 --> 41:40.162 Here's a little song I wrote for Catherine of Air Catherine of Air's the kind of lady I'd be proud to know Because she went on air on Radio 4's feedback to say she likes this show I bet she's very well respected by her friends and all her family Because she is 41:46.524 --> 41:48.184 Yeah, how do you reckon she'll be feeling? 41:49.185 --> 41:52.006 After that, really disappointed and angry. 41:52.346 --> 41:54.246 No, she'll be very touched. 41:54.446 --> 41:55.087 Yeah, I hope so. 41:55.427 --> 41:59.448 You know, I mean, lots of people email us and write to the show and say nice things. 42:01.269 --> 42:03.790 One or two email and write to the show and say horrible things. 42:03.810 --> 42:04.730 Yeah, of course, of course. 42:04.810 --> 42:05.450 It's a balance. 42:05.670 --> 42:07.671 It's free speech, that's the nature of free speech. 42:08.271 --> 42:13.139 But, you know, I'd like to, if I could, I'd like to do a song for every single one of those people. 42:13.259 --> 42:16.604 So would I. But it's just not practical time-wise. 42:16.804 --> 42:23.375 And I was spurred on to do that because I was so knocked out by being mentioned in the context of Roger Bolton's show. 42:23.855 --> 42:25.696 Good old Roger Bolton, yeah? 42:26.236 --> 42:28.857 Yeah, he helped us out years ago on The Adam and Jo Show, didn't he? 42:28.877 --> 42:30.578 What was the show he used to do on Channel 4? 42:30.938 --> 42:32.138 It was a similar thing. 42:32.178 --> 42:33.639 It was a similar... Right to reply, wasn't it? 42:33.659 --> 42:34.279 Yeah, there you go. 42:34.299 --> 42:35.700 He used to host Right to Reply. 42:35.960 --> 42:37.520 And he helped us out doing a goofy link. 42:37.580 --> 42:38.781 Is that on our DVD, I wonder? 42:39.441 --> 42:41.703 Anyway, this is turning into a boring digression. 42:41.723 --> 42:44.424 Yeah, let's have some music and then we'll catch up with some more text-to-nations. 42:44.464 --> 42:48.167 We've had loads and loads of examples of public pretending. 42:48.327 --> 42:48.587 Yes. 42:49.368 --> 42:50.188 Now, here's a free play. 42:50.308 --> 42:52.069 This is a very 80s free play for you. 42:52.089 --> 42:53.050 Can I make a point? 42:53.130 --> 42:53.290 Yes. 42:53.690 --> 42:58.634 I don't have any free plays this week because I failed to burn them off on the CD. 42:58.654 --> 42:59.614 Has that ever happened to you? 42:59.674 --> 42:59.795 Yeah. 43:00.715 --> 43:09.441 I'm sure I put the CD in and pressed burn on the iTunes things and I went downstairs and watched some telly and when I came up I just didn't bother to check it. 43:09.581 --> 43:11.082 That's one of the most tragic stories I've ever heard. 43:11.102 --> 43:13.024 I came in this morning, nothing on the CD. 43:13.044 --> 43:15.005 Did you have some really wild stuff that you'd picked out as well? 43:15.025 --> 43:16.526 Oh brilliant stuff. 43:17.006 --> 43:17.947 You can bring it in next week. 43:17.987 --> 43:20.269 Like Louise by The Human Week. 43:21.229 --> 43:23.011 Luckily that was in the 6th Music Library. 43:23.531 --> 43:26.473 So you've had to go, have you challenged the library for your other free plays? 43:26.713 --> 43:26.993 Nah. 43:27.093 --> 43:27.554 Not really. 43:27.654 --> 43:29.096 You've gone for fairly well-known stuff. 43:29.116 --> 43:31.818 Yeah, they didn't have Clint Eastwood singing Gran Torino. 43:32.419 --> 43:33.200 Ah, sorry about that. 43:33.240 --> 43:33.580 Next week. 43:34.001 --> 43:38.145 Well, here's a nugget that I wouldn't... Maybe it's in the library, I'm not sure. 43:38.485 --> 43:49.737 But anyway, this is a band called New Music, Music with a K, and they were... I was watching Top of the Pops 2 the other day, and Steve Wright was introducing them playing a different track, actually, not the one I'm going to play. 43:50.298 --> 43:56.353 And Steve Wright's introduction was, this is one of those massive Euro hits sung by a bloke who looks as if he doesn't want to be here. 43:56.693 --> 43:59.139 He's either nervous or he knows this song is cack. 44:00.336 --> 44:03.757 What kind of introduction is that for a band? 44:03.797 --> 44:05.758 I love Steve Wright, but I thought that was a bit harsh. 44:06.098 --> 44:06.998 I love new music. 44:07.278 --> 44:12.640 I like the song that he was just about to play on top of the Pops 2, but as I said, this is a different one from the early 80s. 44:12.680 --> 44:14.100 I think this was their third single from 1980. 44:14.560 --> 44:15.981 This is called World of Water. 44:16.121 --> 44:18.482 Massive attack, safe from harm. 44:19.002 --> 44:23.703 It says on these notes, last time we played this track on the show, we asked, do you love it or hate it? 44:24.083 --> 44:25.504 You loved it, so it's back. 44:25.564 --> 44:26.264 Did we ask that? 44:26.824 --> 44:29.387 You said it was rubbish, and then everyone said it was great. 44:29.507 --> 44:31.268 No, I wouldn't have said that was rubbish. 44:31.389 --> 44:32.530 Why would you say that was rubbish? 44:32.570 --> 44:33.150 I got that album. 44:33.210 --> 44:33.951 I love that album. 44:34.031 --> 44:36.473 It doesn't sound like something cornballs would say, Ben. 44:36.494 --> 44:37.414 No, I wouldn't have said that, Ben. 44:37.454 --> 44:39.316 Are you sure you didn't say it was rubbish, Ben? 44:39.336 --> 44:40.297 Perhaps I did. 44:40.317 --> 44:41.138 Perhaps you did. 44:41.538 --> 44:43.080 No, maybe you were just in a bad mood that day. 44:43.620 --> 44:48.003 I don't mean to slap you down, Ben, for your effort in, like, making some retro notes. 44:49.044 --> 44:50.585 But I don't think that's accurate. 44:52.326 --> 44:53.807 Point of order, noted. 44:54.468 --> 44:56.389 Get your coat and get out, Ben. 44:56.409 --> 44:57.810 We'll produce the rest of the show ourselves. 44:58.310 --> 44:59.591 Did you watch the Brits this week, Joe? 44:59.711 --> 45:01.212 I didn't watch the Brits, no. 45:01.612 --> 45:06.976 The Brits, correct me if I'm wrong, seem to be sliding back into the place they used to occupy. 45:07.276 --> 45:09.658 I have a problem with James Corden, is that his name? 45:09.858 --> 45:10.658 Yeah. 45:10.838 --> 45:17.102 Not socially, I like Gavin and Stacey a lot, but I find him very hard to look at when he's not in Gavin and Stacey. 45:18.403 --> 45:18.964 Why? 45:19.244 --> 45:21.966 I don't know, there's something, I don't know, it's my problem, not his. 45:21.986 --> 45:23.287 You don't like the way he fills his suits? 45:24.067 --> 45:25.848 It's not that, it's just, I don't know. 45:26.148 --> 45:30.031 What about Matt Thorne, the Ray Liotta guy that he does that show with? 45:30.387 --> 45:31.708 Right, I don't mind him. 45:32.228 --> 45:32.448 Yeah. 45:33.008 --> 45:36.690 He was, I thought he was more objectionable than Corden on the programme. 45:36.710 --> 45:37.871 I'm not saying that Ivan were objectionable. 45:37.891 --> 45:38.411 On the Brits. 45:38.531 --> 45:39.292 On the Brits, yeah. 45:39.972 --> 45:41.893 They sort of came and went in a strange way. 45:41.913 --> 45:50.558 Because Kylie Minogue was sometimes hosting with Matt Thorne, every now and again James Corden would pop back and say something semi-controversial and bumptious. 45:51.338 --> 45:59.320 Like he introduced Nick Frost by saying that he was, he'd just been working with Nick on this film, Richard Curtis' film. 45:59.340 --> 46:00.001 The boat that rocked. 46:00.161 --> 46:06.983 The boat that rocked, but then James Corden said, and I've just been cut out of the film, and so it was a bit strange. 46:07.123 --> 46:08.063 But you must take that. 46:08.843 --> 46:08.923 Oh. 46:09.283 --> 46:10.684 Doing their UFO performance. 46:10.724 --> 46:11.044 Right. 46:11.064 --> 46:11.604 It was very odd. 46:11.624 --> 46:14.205 Somebody told me that was maybe a veiled dig at Robbie. 46:14.625 --> 46:15.005 Was it? 46:15.345 --> 46:17.226 Yeah, because Robbie's into UFOs. 46:17.246 --> 46:19.686 He did that documentary with John Ronson on Radio 4. 46:20.526 --> 46:22.607 No, surely they wouldn't go to those lengths. 46:22.627 --> 46:23.427 Someone said to me. 46:23.867 --> 46:27.008 I mean, it's not a very good dig because it looked like quite a rubbish UFO. 46:27.028 --> 46:29.228 So the two bits of exciting gossip I got this week. 46:29.428 --> 46:31.789 Did you want to know the other bit of exciting gossip I got this week? 46:31.809 --> 46:32.609 Yeah, go on. 46:32.649 --> 46:40.871 It's not really on subject, but someone told me that Zavi, that Virgin Megastore changed their name to Zavi so that they could go broke without embarrassing Richard Branson. 46:41.951 --> 46:42.532 Right. 46:42.552 --> 46:43.832 That's quite a good theory, isn't it? 46:43.852 --> 46:44.693 That sounds insane. 46:45.013 --> 46:46.053 I think it's a good theory. 46:46.453 --> 46:47.734 Branholm, he wouldn't let that happen. 46:47.954 --> 46:54.797 Well, no, he wouldn't let a virgin company go publicly broke, so he quickly sold it and turned it into something else. 46:54.817 --> 46:57.098 It's such a ludicrous ruse. 46:57.298 --> 46:58.379 It's just a good rumour. 46:58.779 --> 46:59.900 Not saying it's true or not. 47:00.660 --> 47:04.601 Yeah, but I want it to be true, but at the same time, I want to say it's ludicrous. 47:04.742 --> 47:05.582 What else happened to the Brits? 47:06.162 --> 47:06.862 I'll tell you later. 47:06.922 --> 47:07.643 It's time for the news. 47:07.683 --> 47:08.963 There might be something about it in the news. 47:09.043 --> 47:09.143 It's 10.30. 47:09.423 --> 47:10.704 Here it is. 47:10.884 --> 47:14.605 That was Hounds of Love, covered by the future heads there. 47:14.625 --> 47:16.786 This is Adam and Jo on BBC Six Music. 47:16.806 --> 47:19.427 We were talking briefly about the Brits before the news. 47:20.167 --> 47:36.862 And I didn't have that much to say other than the Brits does seem to be going back to its bad old self you know what I mean like for a while towards the end of the nineties with Brit pop and stuff it was all groovy and exciting and dangerous yeah but now it seems to be sliding back into a bit of a mulch. 47:37.222 --> 47:40.546 Well, there's a very conservative atmosphere in the media in general, isn't there? 47:40.706 --> 47:41.527 Yes, tough times. 47:41.587 --> 47:45.571 So the Brits are likely to be sort of like some sort of Chinese government celebration. 47:45.611 --> 47:48.214 I would say, though, that the best thing about it now... I would try to be tightly controlled. 47:48.294 --> 47:48.914 Yes, yes. 47:49.495 --> 47:50.456 Not with excellent food. 47:51.157 --> 47:51.877 Well, that as well. 47:51.938 --> 47:52.118 Right. 47:52.698 --> 47:57.142 Afterwards, the Brits Aftershow thing that you get on ITV2 or wherever it is, is quite good. 47:57.423 --> 48:00.445 They often get Sarah Cox and Rufus Hound to do coverage. 48:00.485 --> 48:02.387 The ITV2 shows are always better, aren't they? 48:02.407 --> 48:06.511 They're a bit shoddy and things go wrong and they sort of assume no one's really watching. 48:07.171 --> 48:13.257 But they're good presenters, Hound and Sarah Cox, although they made one mistake. 48:13.317 --> 48:13.717 Hound and Cox. 48:13.737 --> 48:14.158 It's a pub. 48:14.338 --> 48:14.858 That's right. 48:15.199 --> 48:15.799 It'd be a good pub. 48:15.819 --> 48:16.560 I'd go drinking there. 48:17.040 --> 48:33.745 They made the mistake of getting Mel Blatt and Natalie Appleton, formerly of All Saints, to come in and sort of roam around interviewing people, logic being presumably that they're such megastars themselves, that all the other megastars would be delighted to talk to them. 48:34.085 --> 48:40.907 And that philosophy paid off in a kind of way when they were accosted by Bono and the Edge. 48:41.627 --> 48:44.809 and proceeded to do a link that I think was about 15 minutes long. 48:45.050 --> 48:46.050 I'm not exaggerating. 48:46.431 --> 48:48.552 And they kept on saying, Oh, they're winding us up. 48:48.572 --> 48:51.735 They're winding us up, but we're not going to, we're going to carry on talking. 48:51.855 --> 48:58.079 And they literally just plowed on for another like five or 10 minutes after they were wound up by the... Were they saying interesting things? 48:58.300 --> 48:58.420 No. 48:58.940 --> 49:04.482 It was one of the most bizarre, nothingy, pointless conversations between some very famous people. 49:04.502 --> 49:05.823 So did you record it? 49:05.923 --> 49:10.685 Yes, I did, but it was too boring to play on this programme. 49:10.925 --> 49:11.565 Surely not. 49:11.705 --> 49:12.126 It was. 49:12.166 --> 49:13.726 I mean, it was just mind-numbing. 49:14.046 --> 49:17.708 Every now and again, they would squeal and go, oh, you were so good at the beginning of the show. 49:17.748 --> 49:19.329 That was the best Brits opening ever. 49:20.349 --> 49:21.230 Oh, wow. 49:21.770 --> 49:22.691 You're brilliant. 49:23.412 --> 49:25.594 And then they were sort of saying, there should be another word for brilliant. 49:25.614 --> 49:26.815 You're brilliant. 49:27.175 --> 49:28.416 You're brilliant. 49:28.676 --> 49:29.737 I'm paraphrasing. 49:29.857 --> 49:30.538 It sounds good. 49:30.618 --> 49:31.498 I'm making some of that up. 49:31.518 --> 49:32.079 I want to hear it. 49:32.219 --> 49:34.501 But you can probably find it on YouTube. 49:35.622 --> 49:38.885 The other thing, of course, was Coldplay on there doing their big Coldplay act. 49:39.605 --> 49:42.846 And now I feel as if I've seen them doing that a number of times. 49:42.866 --> 49:43.827 They're getting really slick. 49:43.847 --> 49:46.888 With the confetti and the special jackets. 49:47.128 --> 49:54.771 Yeah, and Chris Martin's moves as if he's doing athletics and he's just about to hurl a javelin or something. 49:54.791 --> 49:55.432 Do you know that move? 49:55.452 --> 49:55.912 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 49:56.112 --> 49:57.532 When he propels himself forward. 49:57.993 --> 50:01.094 And then there's the guy who hits the big bongo drum, you know? 50:01.114 --> 50:02.615 And he's going mad at the beginning of a song. 50:02.635 --> 50:03.115 Kettle drum. 50:03.835 --> 50:04.475 You know the one I mean? 50:04.515 --> 50:05.116 Is that what it's called? 50:05.176 --> 50:06.056 A big kettle drum? 50:06.076 --> 50:06.997 Yeah, it's not a bongo. 50:07.257 --> 50:08.557 Well, it's like a big bongo, isn't it? 50:08.918 --> 50:09.858 It's like an un-bongo. 50:10.178 --> 50:10.418 Right. 50:11.639 --> 50:13.620 Anyway, that King Kong comes out. 50:14.020 --> 50:14.700 Yeah, exactly. 50:15.100 --> 50:15.841 From the Kongo. 50:18.242 --> 50:23.044 But it's a good... Yeah, I feel as if I've seen it a lot of times, but they're really cementing, though. 50:23.104 --> 50:27.806 They've honed their biggest band in the world, shtick, haven't they? 50:28.247 --> 50:28.807 Don't you reckon? 50:29.007 --> 50:29.627 Yes, I do. 50:29.747 --> 50:31.148 With the Mighty Coldplay. 50:31.590 --> 50:39.497 Interestingly, Coldplay were on 60 Minutes, an American programme, being interviewed by the American interviewer there, and he was interviewing Chris Martin in the studio. 50:39.578 --> 50:49.126 And Chris Martin, at one stage in the interview, referred to a photocopied or a sort of printout pinned to the wall of the studio, which turned out to be Coldplay's rules. 50:49.727 --> 50:50.547 In what way rules? 50:50.747 --> 50:54.329 Well, Coldplay have a list of ten rules that they obey. 50:54.609 --> 50:56.030 And this is genuine, this is real. 50:56.190 --> 50:56.710 Band rules? 50:56.890 --> 51:05.673 Yeah, this interviewer spotted these rules and he asked Chris Martin to tell him what they were and Martin took him through a couple of the rules but then the conversation moved on. 51:06.033 --> 51:09.875 But people on the internet have freeze-framed these rules and transposed them. 51:09.975 --> 51:10.255 Nice. 51:10.415 --> 51:14.497 So I've got in my hand the ten rules by which Coldplay operate 51:15.197 --> 51:18.899 the process of recording our albums, managing their band and managing their public image. 51:19.359 --> 51:23.381 Rule one is albums must be no longer than 42 minutes and nine tracks. 51:23.541 --> 51:23.921 Good rule. 51:24.181 --> 51:25.042 Do you think that's a good rule? 51:25.082 --> 51:25.222 Yeah. 51:25.602 --> 51:25.962 Pithy? 51:26.262 --> 51:26.842 Very good rule. 51:27.283 --> 51:29.844 Rule number two, production must be amazing. 51:30.464 --> 51:35.267 But with space, not overlaid, less tracks, more quality groove and swing. 51:35.627 --> 51:38.228 The drums and rhythm are the most crucial thing to concentrate on. 51:38.568 --> 51:45.372 Differentiate between bittersweet and science of silence, which is a reference to the verb and a Richard Ashcroft solo record. 51:45.392 --> 51:47.213 Yeah, what do you think of that? 51:47.533 --> 51:49.875 Well, that seems like a strange... Production must be amazing. 51:49.895 --> 51:54.557 Yeah, it's a strange thing to actually write down and photocopy. 51:55.037 --> 51:56.338 Less tracks, more quality. 51:56.618 --> 51:57.619 Album is one of the rules. 51:57.899 --> 51:59.360 Albums should be really good. 52:00.160 --> 52:24.601 pretty much groove and swing is interesting for a rocky band like that and to put such a lot of emphasis on the drums and the rhythm drums and rhythm are the most crucial thing to concentrate on yeah so they're saying that's the thing that makes people's ears pick up kind of thing these sound like original rhythm uh eno assisted rules well this is i think they were i think they were co-formulated with eno rule number three computers are instruments not recording aids 52:25.622 --> 52:32.911 So they're saying use a computer as a machine to make weird noises, not just as a thing to record your tracks on? 52:33.092 --> 52:34.834 Yes, as a source of melody. 52:35.450 --> 52:36.830 Yeah, do you think that's what that means? 52:36.870 --> 52:39.731 Like glitching and dropout and digital interference and stuff? 52:40.011 --> 52:40.651 Yeah. 52:41.431 --> 52:42.532 Yes, I suppose so. 52:42.572 --> 52:46.372 I mean, Coldplay love Radiohead and Radiohead obviously do a lot of that. 52:46.392 --> 52:47.593 Have done a lot of that kind of thing. 52:47.613 --> 52:49.673 Number four, imagery must be classic, colourful and different. 52:49.713 --> 52:51.093 Come back in glorious technicolour. 52:51.433 --> 52:53.694 I think their previous album was quite black and white, wasn't it? 52:54.314 --> 52:57.935 And so they wanted to come back all bright and the imagery is indeed classic. 52:58.255 --> 53:03.856 Number five, make sure videos and pictures are great before setting the release date and highly original. 53:04.662 --> 53:05.082 Yeah. 53:05.502 --> 53:05.763 Yeah. 53:05.843 --> 53:13.547 Well, that's a good, I mean, that's a good rule though, because sometimes those things can get forgotten and then you end up with a hasty photo shoot and you just think, no, that's not right. 53:13.567 --> 53:13.687 Yeah. 53:13.707 --> 53:19.970 That's like the company pushing them to deliver in time, but they're saying, no, hold your ground and make sure everything's completely finished before you release it to the public. 53:19.990 --> 53:21.131 That's a good thing to be aware of. 53:21.992 --> 53:25.035 I'm gonna go quickly through the rest. 53:25.075 --> 53:28.279 Number six, always keep mystery, not many interviews. 53:29.080 --> 53:35.066 So the more interviews you've done, the less mysterious you become, and the more the public just get used to you. 53:35.186 --> 53:35.727 You know what I mean? 53:35.787 --> 53:38.190 Well, that's a nice rule, but it's not practical, and I don't think they've stuck to it. 53:38.210 --> 53:38.670 No, they haven't. 53:38.750 --> 53:39.952 They've failed on that one. 53:40.032 --> 53:42.835 Like, Tom York's got a lot more mystery than Chris Martin. 53:43.095 --> 53:43.656 Yeah, exactly. 53:43.716 --> 53:46.360 And Tom York doesn't studiously avoid giving interviews. 53:46.560 --> 53:47.882 I mean, he's just... Yeah, Chris Martin. 53:47.982 --> 53:49.164 He's just in choosy. 53:49.965 --> 53:51.407 But anyway, they're going to change that, obviously. 53:59.618 --> 54:14.908 John writes the melodies Yeah, and the rest of them are a bit boring number eight is promo review copies to be recorded on vinyl Well, that's going for your idea that vinyl sounds better and maximize the right Oh, no, cuz cuz they can't be copied. 54:14.948 --> 54:18.190 I think as well stops copying problems sounds and looks better. 54:18.210 --> 54:18.250 Oh 54:18.570 --> 54:34.121 right then number nine something about the nspcc and number 10 is about their charities set up something small but really enabling and constructive reference jamie oliver's 15 so they want to make a charity like jamie oliver you know something yeah small and constructive 54:36.463 --> 54:38.324 Why do you think they would write them down and photocopy them? 54:38.344 --> 54:39.425 They're keen on writing things down. 54:39.445 --> 54:44.608 As part of the interview, Chris Martin talked about how he writes melodies down just on the wall, on the piano. 54:44.628 --> 54:50.811 They have to repaint their piano at the end of every album session because he just writes notes down anywhere. 54:50.831 --> 54:52.752 And we know he writes on his hands as well. 54:52.812 --> 54:56.454 Anybody who does anything creative knows how important it is to write an idea down as soon as you have it. 54:56.534 --> 54:59.916 He should write on his face like Jim Carrey in that film, Lucky No. 55:00.357 --> 55:01.157 13 or whatever it was called. 55:02.026 --> 55:02.927 Oh, the number 13. 55:02.987 --> 55:03.247 Yeah. 55:03.408 --> 55:03.688 Yeah. 55:04.429 --> 55:09.614 Anyway, I was trying to think of some rules that we might go by, but I'll do those later because this link is becoming very long. 55:10.014 --> 55:14.919 OK, here's a bit of music before that, and we should also check back with Text the Nation before the hour is up. 55:15.299 --> 55:17.982 This is School of Seven Bells with, what is it? 55:18.202 --> 55:19.644 I Am Under No Disguise. 55:19.704 --> 55:20.284 All one word. 55:20.364 --> 55:20.725 Here we go. 55:20.825 --> 55:22.166 That's an unusual sound, isn't it? 55:22.306 --> 55:23.287 What an unusual sound. 55:24.028 --> 55:24.968 It's kind of magical. 55:25.329 --> 55:26.129 Is that the right word? 55:26.169 --> 55:28.630 School of Seven Bells with I Am Under No Disguise. 55:28.970 --> 55:31.011 This is Adam and Joe here on BBC 6 Music. 55:31.271 --> 55:32.812 Let's have the Text-a-Nation jingle, Ben. 55:35.073 --> 55:35.914 Text-a-Nation. 55:35.934 --> 55:37.014 Text, text, text. 55:37.114 --> 55:37.855 Text-a-Nation. 55:37.915 --> 55:38.855 What if I don't want to? 55:38.875 --> 55:39.855 Text-a-Nation. 55:39.956 --> 55:40.956 But I'm using email. 55:41.096 --> 55:41.856 Is that a problem? 55:41.876 --> 55:42.437 It doesn't matter. 55:42.477 --> 55:42.737 Text! 55:44.952 --> 55:47.335 Jingle Ben, Jingle Ben, Jingle all the way. 55:47.355 --> 55:50.438 Oh what fun it is when Ben plays Jingle, he's gay. 55:51.539 --> 55:53.301 That's just a bit of playground taunting. 55:55.243 --> 55:57.145 And I don't mean anything by it, it just rhymed. 55:57.385 --> 55:58.166 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 55:58.466 --> 56:01.469 And that's very lazy use of the word gay as well. 56:01.590 --> 56:01.870 It is. 56:02.050 --> 56:04.152 It's completely wrong in all ways. 56:04.413 --> 56:04.613 Yeah. 56:04.673 --> 56:05.694 And really reprehensible. 56:05.894 --> 56:06.154 Yeah. 56:06.595 --> 56:08.657 Will you get your coat and leave the show now? 56:08.677 --> 56:09.118 Yep, I'm off. 56:09.198 --> 56:09.338 Bye. 56:09.538 --> 56:10.459 OK, thanks very much. 56:10.700 --> 56:14.143 We're looking for a new presenter for a popular six-music show. 56:14.504 --> 56:17.968 He needs to be tall, haughty and lazy. 56:19.489 --> 56:20.571 Horrible things to say! 56:20.591 --> 56:21.612 Sorry, I didn't mean it. 56:22.072 --> 56:35.223 It's Text the Nation time listeners, this is the part of the show, yeah, you know what happens in Text the Nation, but this week the subject is all about public pretending, miming you do to cover up for some kind of behaviour which you're embarrassed about in public, right? 56:35.343 --> 56:35.523 Yeah. 56:35.963 --> 56:37.364 You still getting over my song about Ben? 56:39.685 --> 56:41.106 I like your song about Ben secretly. 56:41.566 --> 56:44.107 We've had some very good texts that have come in. 56:44.147 --> 56:45.807 This is one from Steve in Roehampton. 56:46.348 --> 56:52.810 He says, sometimes I pretend to be chewing gum when walking past a pretty girl on the street because I think it makes me look cooler. 56:52.870 --> 56:53.350 That's insane. 56:53.450 --> 56:54.930 It's tragic, Steve. 56:55.531 --> 56:56.671 Why would you think that? 56:57.091 --> 56:57.451 You know what? 56:57.531 --> 56:59.273 I've turned into my dad about chewing gum. 56:59.433 --> 57:00.634 I think it looks dreadful. 57:00.834 --> 57:01.115 Really? 57:01.175 --> 57:03.237 I really do, and I see people chewing gum. 57:03.257 --> 57:08.141 And when I see myself chewing gum sometimes, if I've been interviewed or whatever, I think that's a shame. 57:08.181 --> 57:08.922 I shouldn't have done that. 57:09.742 --> 57:10.243 Uh, who is it? 57:10.343 --> 57:10.723 Adele? 57:10.783 --> 57:12.084 Does she sing chasing pavements? 57:12.825 --> 57:18.088 She was, she was at the Brits and she was interviewed by Mel and Sue backstage or whatever it was. 57:18.548 --> 57:19.489 Mel and, who was it? 57:19.529 --> 57:20.989 Mel Black and Nicole Appleton. 57:21.349 --> 57:25.892 Anyway, she was chewing gum like for England, Adele, and it looked awful. 57:25.972 --> 57:33.316 If I was her mum, I would say, listen, you might be a soul singing genius with lots of awards, but take that gum out of your mouth at this instant. 57:33.996 --> 57:35.357 Here's one from Paul in Hitchin. 57:35.437 --> 57:36.618 He says, good morning Adam and Joe. 57:36.658 --> 57:41.823 Sometimes when I've locked my van at work, I walk away from my van and suddenly think, did I lock my van? 57:42.343 --> 57:49.950 So I walk back to my van, unlock the van and have a jolly good look inside to cover up my obsession with thinking, did I lock my van? 57:50.070 --> 57:51.451 Then I lock it and walk away. 57:51.831 --> 57:53.373 Did I use the word van enough? 57:53.973 --> 57:54.774 Paul in Hitchin. 57:55.274 --> 57:56.395 That's a pretty good one. 57:56.776 --> 57:57.817 Make it look deliberate. 57:58.017 --> 58:01.540 Like if you're doing sort of insane behaviour, make it look like part of the plan. 58:01.960 --> 58:04.461 Do you think you'd be able to tell if you saw Paul doing that? 58:04.481 --> 58:09.522 Do you think if you think, ah, he's not looking for anything in that van, he's just trying to cover up the fact that he forgot whether he loved it. 58:09.542 --> 58:10.222 I would never be able to tell. 58:10.262 --> 58:13.322 Do you spot- But I will now that we've done this feature. 58:13.342 --> 58:13.562 Right. 58:13.883 --> 58:15.743 I'll be able to spot a lot of this miming now. 58:15.903 --> 58:21.124 I mean, that's what mainly people are doing 90% of the time when they're in public anyway, is pretending in some way or another. 58:21.804 --> 58:22.264 I would think. 58:22.564 --> 58:22.984 You think? 58:23.105 --> 58:23.465 Yeah. 58:23.705 --> 58:24.265 Charades. 58:24.505 --> 58:26.025 But I never, but you never think of it. 58:26.045 --> 58:29.926 I mean, you wouldn't think to spot other people's pretending, would you? 58:30.652 --> 58:30.932 No. 58:31.693 --> 58:32.874 Well, no one's safe anymore. 58:33.094 --> 58:34.375 Here's one from John in Cheshire. 58:34.435 --> 58:46.162 He says, sometimes when I walk past scary-looking youths, etc., in the street at night, I'll avoid eye contact by pretending that I'm trying in vain to sort out the complex zips, velcro and buttons on my jacket. 58:46.823 --> 58:51.366 It might make me look like an idiot, but it always seems to make me invisible to scary people. 58:51.646 --> 58:51.906 Yeah. 58:52.046 --> 58:54.388 That's just a good rule for living in the big city, isn't it? 58:54.408 --> 58:54.808 Uh-huh. 58:54.968 --> 58:56.109 Don't make eye contact. 58:56.229 --> 58:59.952 Pretend you're just involved in something, you know, personal. 59:00.092 --> 59:00.272 Yeah. 59:00.912 --> 59:02.573 Sometimes a bit of opposite psychology is good. 59:02.633 --> 59:03.793 Otherwise someone will step to you. 59:04.173 --> 59:05.513 They'll assume that you're fronting on them. 59:05.733 --> 59:06.514 And they'll step to you. 59:06.734 --> 59:07.754 And their gats will come out. 59:07.954 --> 59:09.354 Absolutely, they'll black you with their cat. 59:10.075 --> 59:10.875 Nobody wants that. 59:10.975 --> 59:11.675 No one wants that. 59:11.955 --> 59:18.957 Sometimes if I'm passing scary utes, what I'll do is I will look as ridiculous and chirpy as I can. 59:19.277 --> 59:19.537 Right. 59:19.557 --> 59:22.778 Because I think why would they want to pick a fight with a stupid chirpy man? 59:22.978 --> 59:23.178 Yeah. 59:23.318 --> 59:23.898 Hello! 59:23.998 --> 59:24.099 Hey! 59:25.979 --> 59:28.580 All right, that's... That's kind of me. 59:28.620 --> 59:28.880 Bang. 59:29.000 --> 59:29.240 Dead. 59:30.321 --> 59:31.521 Here's one from Sarah. 59:31.881 --> 59:32.462 Doherty. 59:32.702 --> 59:33.382 Doherty. 59:34.062 --> 59:39.984 She says, I've pretended to stretch so I can check if the smell of BO is me. 59:40.164 --> 59:41.325 That's a big one. 59:41.805 --> 59:42.365 That makes sense. 59:42.765 --> 59:45.647 I'll do an exaggerated yawn, turn my head and sniff. 59:46.287 --> 59:47.687 I've also done a look over there. 59:47.907 --> 59:48.468 Big point. 59:49.108 --> 59:50.188 And then check for BO. 59:50.208 --> 59:51.409 That's less subtle. 59:51.929 --> 59:53.231 But the stretching is a good one. 59:53.251 --> 59:54.112 That's a very good one. 59:54.332 --> 59:57.437 Ben in Norwich, and here's a pretty standard one. 59:57.857 --> 59:58.999 Not in a bad way, in a good way. 59:59.139 --> 01:00:04.266 I elaborately pretend to take a phone call at a bus stop to avoid talking to a chatty tramp. 01:00:05.088 --> 01:00:06.890 My acting was terrible, says Ben. 01:00:07.671 --> 01:00:07.971 Hello. 01:00:07.991 --> 01:00:09.191 Hey. 01:00:10.352 --> 01:00:10.772 Yeah. 01:00:12.492 --> 01:00:13.213 No, busy. 01:00:14.333 --> 01:00:14.633 Right. 01:00:16.073 --> 01:00:16.754 How's that, Princeton? 01:00:16.794 --> 01:00:17.634 That's very good. 01:00:17.654 --> 01:00:18.354 See, that's quite good. 01:00:18.374 --> 01:00:19.494 The laugh as well, yeah. 01:00:19.534 --> 01:00:23.855 What you mustn't do is fall into the movie trap where you're going, hey, oh, hello, Susan. 01:00:24.336 --> 01:00:24.616 Right. 01:00:24.736 --> 01:00:25.196 How are you? 01:00:25.876 --> 01:00:27.136 How was the charity shop? 01:00:27.176 --> 01:00:33.238 You know, you're saying everything back to her, which they say in movies for expositional purposes, but you never do that in real life. 01:00:33.378 --> 01:00:35.799 At 12.30, at the bingo hall, see you there. 01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:36.979 That kind of thing. 01:00:36.999 --> 01:00:37.719 Do you know what I mean? 01:00:37.979 --> 01:00:38.199 Yeah. 01:00:38.299 --> 01:00:38.759 Don't do that. 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.440 No, well, tramps is a good one as well because you have to do a lot of acting sometimes. 01:00:42.460 --> 01:00:42.820 You do one. 01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:43.781 You do a fake call now. 01:00:44.241 --> 01:00:44.481 Oh. 01:00:44.521 --> 01:00:45.461 See how good you are at it. 01:00:45.681 --> 01:00:46.121 Hello? 01:00:47.361 --> 01:00:48.522 Yes, I'm Adam Buxton. 01:00:49.382 --> 01:00:52.023 Yes, the printer is a bit repaired now. 01:00:52.583 --> 01:00:53.223 I'm no good. 01:00:54.602 --> 01:00:56.003 Thank you very much for your help. 01:00:56.583 --> 01:00:57.564 Thank you for your call. 01:00:58.825 --> 01:00:58.945 Oh. 01:01:00.826 --> 01:01:01.567 Was that the printer? 01:01:01.587 --> 01:01:02.447 I'm hanging up. 01:01:02.688 --> 01:01:03.408 Phoning you back. 01:01:03.488 --> 01:01:03.708 Yeah. 01:01:04.008 --> 01:01:04.209 Yeah. 01:01:04.269 --> 01:01:04.669 That's good. 01:01:04.709 --> 01:01:05.089 That's good. 01:01:05.109 --> 01:01:05.990 You see, that's detail. 01:01:06.090 --> 01:01:06.530 That's what they did. 01:01:06.550 --> 01:01:07.411 Makes it seem more realistic. 01:01:07.431 --> 01:01:08.852 They phoned me back during the week, you know. 01:01:09.012 --> 01:01:09.192 Right. 01:01:09.212 --> 01:01:09.913 It wasn't real though. 01:01:10.053 --> 01:01:10.433 I don't know. 01:01:10.493 --> 01:01:10.773 Was it? 01:01:11.013 --> 01:01:11.394 No, it was. 01:01:11.434 --> 01:01:12.134 It was actually real. 01:01:12.154 --> 01:01:12.334 Was it? 01:01:12.414 --> 01:01:14.295 They phoned me back and they said, uh, could you remember? 01:01:14.316 --> 01:01:15.977 I said, I'd been on there. 01:01:16.277 --> 01:01:17.258 Well, you asked. 01:01:18.098 --> 01:01:20.640 I said, I'm picking up a story from last week. 01:01:20.680 --> 01:01:22.241 I know it's right in the middle of Texanation, but 01:01:22.441 --> 01:01:23.301 Here's one from Daisy. 01:01:23.441 --> 01:01:24.442 You're just ignoring me now. 01:01:24.742 --> 01:01:25.162 Carry on then. 01:01:25.822 --> 01:01:30.123 She says, I'm superstitious, so when I see a lone magpie, I always salute it. 01:01:30.383 --> 01:01:31.284 Yeah, my wife does that. 01:01:31.544 --> 01:01:31.824 Really? 01:01:31.964 --> 01:01:32.544 Yeah, good morning. 01:01:32.564 --> 01:01:33.504 Never heard of that before. 01:01:33.624 --> 01:01:38.266 But I don't want to look like a nutter, so when other people are around, I disguise it as scratching my forehead. 01:01:38.466 --> 01:01:39.346 Yes, quite right. 01:01:40.006 --> 01:01:40.906 And here's one from Tim. 01:01:41.367 --> 01:01:49.110 If I realize I'm walking the wrong way and I need to do a 180 degree turn, I stop at the side of the street and pretend I've got a text. 01:01:49.650 --> 01:01:51.011 I then leave the other way. 01:01:51.271 --> 01:01:53.472 Can't say I've done that in the past. 01:01:53.992 --> 01:01:57.134 Oh, Tommy's texted and we're not meeting at that corner. 01:01:57.154 --> 01:01:59.074 We're meeting at the other corner. 01:01:59.214 --> 01:01:59.395 Right. 01:02:00.115 --> 01:02:01.415 And what's the logic, do you think? 01:02:01.896 --> 01:02:03.616 You think that if people saw you just... 01:02:05.117 --> 01:02:06.878 He doesn't know where he's going. 01:02:06.898 --> 01:02:08.458 Darrin, look at that bloke. 01:02:08.478 --> 01:02:10.679 He's got no clue where he's going. 01:02:10.819 --> 01:02:13.240 Reveals a profound sense of public paranoia. 01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:14.240 Darrin says, no, no, wait. 01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:14.880 Self-consciousness. 01:02:14.900 --> 01:02:15.461 No, Steve, wait. 01:02:15.701 --> 01:02:17.001 He's got to call his texting. 01:02:17.421 --> 01:02:17.981 Oh, right. 01:02:18.001 --> 01:02:19.142 So I didn't realise, mate. 01:02:19.442 --> 01:02:20.402 Didn't realise you were texting. 01:02:20.422 --> 01:02:22.003 I thought you didn't realise where you were going. 01:02:22.737 --> 01:02:23.177 Exactly. 01:02:24.078 --> 01:02:41.525 Here's finally one from Jay Lee, which says, Dear Adam and Jo, when I'm meeting some friends in town and they call me to say they're running late, this is a very common one, I'd say, I sometimes pretend to look around for them, even if they're not arriving for ages, just because I don't want to look like a loser with no mates. 01:02:42.066 --> 01:02:49.589 I stand on tiptoes, I stretch my neck up and look through the crowd of people and feign a look of disappointment that says, oh, that's not them. 01:02:50.390 --> 01:02:53.293 I often end up repeating the above for the next 10 minutes. 01:02:53.613 --> 01:02:54.334 Yes. 01:02:54.454 --> 01:02:55.235 Everybody does that. 01:02:55.255 --> 01:02:56.036 That's perfect. 01:02:56.296 --> 01:03:02.183 And sometimes it's a way of kind of keeping you at arm's length, if you know what I mean. 01:03:02.203 --> 01:03:04.205 You're right in saying that it's utterly unnecessary. 01:03:04.225 --> 01:03:04.405 Yeah. 01:03:04.425 --> 01:03:10.352 Like no one in the world is going to go, loser, he's obviously waiting for some friends and they haven't turned up, so he hasn't got any friends. 01:03:10.652 --> 01:03:10.852 Yeah. 01:03:10.912 --> 01:03:11.173 Are they? 01:03:11.633 --> 01:03:12.234 Well, no. 01:03:12.574 --> 01:03:13.194 No, they wouldn't. 01:03:13.394 --> 01:03:16.657 I mean, some really appalling, like, horrible teenagers might. 01:03:16.857 --> 01:03:17.037 Yeah. 01:03:17.077 --> 01:03:20.460 But nobody who you would give any respect to would think that. 01:03:20.520 --> 01:03:21.681 No, same person would. 01:03:21.781 --> 01:03:22.702 Why do we do it? 01:03:22.842 --> 01:03:24.123 Oi, Billy, no, mates. 01:03:24.183 --> 01:03:26.805 That's what you're sort of thinking, someone's going to say. 01:03:27.005 --> 01:03:27.826 I've done that myself. 01:03:28.146 --> 01:03:36.473 Like, I remember being stood in cinema forays and people haven't turned up and I start slapping my thigh and huffing and puffing and going, oh, God. 01:03:37.173 --> 01:03:37.834 and doing all this. 01:03:38.514 --> 01:03:40.316 So, you know, even say the word sometimes. 01:03:40.716 --> 01:03:41.317 Late, late. 01:03:42.858 --> 01:03:44.760 They are so late, late. 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:49.063 Looking at what's your, gosh, late, late, late, they are late. 01:03:49.244 --> 01:03:53.247 I'm waiting for the late people in this cinema foyer on my own. 01:03:56.289 --> 01:03:56.929 That kind of thing. 01:03:56.949 --> 01:03:58.569 Yeah, well, I'm sure it's very effective. 01:04:00.350 --> 01:04:02.030 Well, listen, please keep them coming in, listeners. 01:04:02.071 --> 01:04:04.071 The text number is 64046. 01:04:04.831 --> 01:04:07.652 The email is adamandjo.6music at bbc.co.uk. 01:04:07.732 --> 01:04:09.333 We'll get to those later. 01:04:09.433 --> 01:04:21.717 Sorry, yeah, just to clarify, if you've just tuned in, this text the nation is about kind of public pretending that you do, you know, little things that little charades that you perform in order to cover up some kind of other behavior when you're in public. 01:04:22.208 --> 01:04:23.729 Anyway, yes, it's time for some music. 01:04:23.769 --> 01:04:26.432 Now, is this your... I know this is a trail for George Lamb. 01:04:26.452 --> 01:04:27.152 This is exciting. 01:04:27.172 --> 01:04:28.173 What do you think will be in the trail? 01:04:28.293 --> 01:04:28.854 Danny Wallace. 01:04:29.494 --> 01:04:29.754 Really? 01:04:30.015 --> 01:04:30.215 Yeah. 01:04:30.995 --> 01:04:31.055 Oh. 01:04:31.576 --> 01:04:33.057 Trail Wallace for Lamb. 01:04:33.377 --> 01:04:34.778 Oh, that means he's filling in for him. 01:04:34.818 --> 01:04:36.900 I should read the... Let's play it. 01:04:36.940 --> 01:04:39.963 Otherwise, our spiel about the trail will be longer than the trail. 01:04:40.243 --> 01:04:43.826 This is the voice of the big, pretty castle. 01:04:43.926 --> 01:04:45.808 It is the top of the hour. 01:04:45.868 --> 01:04:47.369 Ooh, that's wonderful. 01:04:47.589 --> 01:04:49.851 I got so bored with the last hour. 01:04:55.114 --> 01:04:59.395 That's the members with Sounds of the Suburbs, or is it just Sound of the Suburbs? 01:04:59.435 --> 01:05:00.216 Sound of the Suburbs. 01:05:00.256 --> 01:05:16.620 It was recorded for the John Peel show on Radio 1 on the 17th of January 1979, and coincidentally enough, we're about to take you back to approximately 1979, or maybe more like 1981, because I'm going to play you now listeners something a bit ill-advised. 01:05:16.660 --> 01:05:21.222 These are some recordings I came across of myself pretending to be a DJ when I was about 11. 01:05:22.162 --> 01:05:24.204 Right, as opposed to pretending to be a DJ when you're almost 40. 01:05:25.945 --> 01:05:27.406 Exactly, which is what we're doing now. 01:05:27.466 --> 01:05:34.191 Yeah, well, that's the point of these, to show that apart from the playlist being improved, nothing's really changed. 01:05:34.352 --> 01:05:39.115 And I don't know what this, I mean, this is going to do various things, it's going to make me acutely embarrassed. 01:05:39.696 --> 01:05:43.198 I don't really know why I'm playing these, because it's really profoundly painful. 01:05:44.019 --> 01:05:53.762 And I wonder whether this is the same for everybody, whether anything recorded of them before their voice broke is just, per se, really painfully embarrassing. 01:05:53.822 --> 01:05:57.143 I think the rule is, before your voice is broken, it's all fine. 01:05:57.863 --> 01:05:59.204 It's like laughing at a baby. 01:05:59.324 --> 01:06:01.665 Exactly, because you're guileless then. 01:06:01.785 --> 01:06:02.045 Yeah. 01:06:02.645 --> 01:06:03.406 At least you should be. 01:06:03.446 --> 01:06:05.408 The other thing is I sound amazingly posh. 01:06:05.588 --> 01:06:06.849 I sound like Penelope Keith. 01:06:07.770 --> 01:06:11.655 And it sounds as if I drove to school in a Rolls Royce pedal car wearing a top hat. 01:06:12.956 --> 01:06:18.081 Scattering five pound notes to the impoverished residents of Brixton as I went to my posh delage. 01:06:18.422 --> 01:06:19.202 That's true though, isn't it? 01:06:19.663 --> 01:06:20.264 Not really. 01:06:20.304 --> 01:06:21.505 I mean, we're both well spoken. 01:06:21.605 --> 01:06:23.007 Yeah, but we used to be very well spoken. 01:06:23.027 --> 01:06:24.008 We're not that posh. 01:06:24.588 --> 01:06:24.768 Yeah. 01:06:24.968 --> 01:06:27.249 It's just back then you aspired to be posh. 01:06:27.289 --> 01:06:28.790 Everyone on Blue Peter spoke posh. 01:06:28.830 --> 01:06:29.250 That's right. 01:06:29.290 --> 01:06:30.850 The news people spoke posh. 01:06:30.911 --> 01:06:37.013 That was before there was a cultural shift where children's programs and Charlie Brooker talks about this, doesn't he? 01:06:37.053 --> 01:06:38.033 Or is it David Mitchell? 01:06:38.053 --> 01:06:39.414 Somebody had a good rant about this. 01:06:40.374 --> 01:06:43.997 that, in the past, children's television presenters used to talk like adults. 01:06:44.057 --> 01:06:44.438 That's right. 01:06:44.498 --> 01:06:48.782 Or like teachers, and now they're like the kids' mates, desperate to please the kids. 01:06:48.842 --> 01:06:50.003 Well, let me put this in context. 01:06:50.043 --> 01:06:54.426 Before you play your clip, I tried to find a clip of myself, right, and I knew I had one somewhere. 01:06:54.907 --> 01:06:57.269 But it turned out that, unfortunately, a lot of it was erased. 01:06:57.289 --> 01:06:59.070 I've got a little bit that I'll tell you later on. 01:06:59.531 --> 01:07:06.036 But one of the other things that I found on this tape, which clearly belonged to my dad, I'd obviously borrowed one of his cassettes and used his tape recorder, 01:07:07.357 --> 01:07:15.781 I think he'd got an assistant to go out and record travel notes, because my dad was a travel writer, right? 01:07:16.142 --> 01:07:24.806 So he would get a reporter kind of assistant person to go out and record notes about a various place, and he would use them in his article that he was writing. 01:07:25.066 --> 01:07:26.028 A various place. 01:07:26.248 --> 01:07:27.129 Of various places. 01:07:27.169 --> 01:07:27.350 Yeah. 01:07:27.590 --> 01:07:30.154 But check out the accent on this lady, right? 01:07:30.575 --> 01:07:34.140 I mean, this is an accent that you don't really hear anymore in modern times. 01:07:34.180 --> 01:07:36.183 And I guess this would have been from the late 70s. 01:07:36.684 --> 01:07:38.126 But it's quite sexy as well. 01:07:38.607 --> 01:07:39.689 Check out what she sounds like. 01:07:40.729 --> 01:07:41.650 No, no, no. 01:07:41.890 --> 01:07:42.330 Sorry, Ben. 01:07:42.711 --> 01:07:43.751 It's Fruity Lady. 01:07:44.632 --> 01:07:48.974 This is the, this is the second, actually, let's play the, let's play the second clip. 01:07:49.014 --> 01:07:57.239 Yeah, she's on a beach somewhere in the south of France or something, and she's describing the beach. 01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.361 So there's, there should be another clip after that one, Ben. 01:08:01.982 --> 01:08:02.422 Number three. 01:08:04.097 --> 01:08:05.518 La Pla Pasable. 01:08:06.158 --> 01:08:07.299 Very small beach. 01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:09.300 The entrance fee is 1.20. 01:08:11.361 --> 01:08:16.624 The cabins for one person, five, two people, six, for three people, eight. 01:08:16.924 --> 01:08:18.425 Is she an English woman? 01:08:18.485 --> 01:08:18.705 Yeah. 01:08:19.406 --> 01:08:21.647 Two francs, a parasol, two francs. 01:08:23.168 --> 01:08:26.449 Pedallers, three francs for half an hour. 01:08:26.469 --> 01:08:28.050 What is going here? 01:08:28.431 --> 01:08:30.472 Twenty francs for a quarter of an hour. 01:08:31.812 --> 01:08:33.394 60 francs for an hour. 01:08:34.334 --> 01:08:37.577 For that she sounds quite turned on. 01:08:37.597 --> 01:08:38.617 60 francs for an hour. 01:08:38.837 --> 01:08:39.918 But that's true, isn't it? 01:08:39.978 --> 01:08:40.178 Yeah. 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:41.900 I mean, when was that recorded then? 01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:42.840 Yeah, late 70s. 01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:43.421 Late 70s. 01:08:43.861 --> 01:08:50.666 So it's later than you think, but everybody in the public eye did aspire to speaking amazingly poshly. 01:08:50.686 --> 01:08:52.627 Because you think that sounds almost Germanic. 01:08:52.667 --> 01:08:53.808 She sounds almost foreign. 01:08:53.868 --> 01:09:03.855 Yeah, I mean, her accent, her French accent is very good on that tip, so maybe she is a Euro lady, I don't know, but you would think that that kind of accent was from the 40s, like brief encounter or something almost. 01:09:04.215 --> 01:09:09.459 But people, even in the 70s, even with the punk wars going on, that's how the middle classes spoke a lot of the time. 01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:10.440 When did the change happen? 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:12.301 It happened in the mid 80s, do you think? 01:09:12.561 --> 01:09:21.707 Yeah, when people started, you started getting estuary vowels on the BBC and stuff like that, and quite rightly, all kinds of different accents were represented. 01:09:21.727 --> 01:09:22.408 When Damon, it's Damon 01:09:22.568 --> 01:09:30.212 Robin did it, when he denied his poshness and started to talk like he was from some housing estate somewhere. 01:09:30.592 --> 01:09:35.975 And in Terry Christian and regional accents and all that kind of thing, when that started being more... But that's a good thing, isn't it? 01:09:35.995 --> 01:09:36.895 Of course, I'm not saying it's bad. 01:09:36.915 --> 01:09:40.617 For regional accents to be reflected accurately on the BBC is a good thing. 01:09:40.717 --> 01:09:42.718 Well, I heard someone complaining... Because it caters to the whole country. 01:09:42.998 --> 01:09:45.580 on feedback the other day that they weren't enough regional accents. 01:09:45.620 --> 01:09:53.727 But for children's presenters to actually kind of downgrade themselves, dumb their accents down, is maybe not such a good thing. 01:09:53.967 --> 01:09:58.170 Or maybe it is when you listen to me pretending to be a DJ, aged 11. 01:09:58.430 --> 01:10:02.533 Check out my playlist and also remember that I'm in character. 01:10:02.593 --> 01:10:04.915 I'm pretending to be a DJ called John Scott. 01:10:05.236 --> 01:10:05.856 John Scott! 01:10:05.876 --> 01:10:06.937 When did you get the name John Scott? 01:10:06.977 --> 01:10:07.397 I don't know. 01:10:07.597 --> 01:10:11.861 He just sounded like business, like charismatic DJ John Scott. 01:10:12.583 --> 01:10:13.924 So here's the first little bit. 01:10:13.945 --> 01:10:14.185 Oh god. 01:10:14.205 --> 01:10:14.585 Good choice. 01:10:35.728 --> 01:10:36.768 That's brilliant, man. 01:10:36.848 --> 01:10:37.148 Yeah. 01:10:37.169 --> 01:10:38.769 So how old are you, like 13 or 12? 01:10:38.969 --> 01:10:39.809 No, no, no. 01:10:40.370 --> 01:10:40.470 11 or 12. 01:10:40.570 --> 01:10:41.210 Oh, really? 01:10:41.250 --> 01:10:47.852 I don't actually want, it's not that I couldn't work it out, but I don't want to work it out, because I'm frightened that I'll be older than I think I am. 01:10:47.872 --> 01:10:48.953 John Scott's amazing. 01:10:49.113 --> 01:10:50.753 John Scott, yes, he's very good. 01:10:51.073 --> 01:10:52.994 I like the intonation there on some of that stuff. 01:10:53.014 --> 01:10:55.995 He's very mellow, and he's got a really, he plays B-sides, man. 01:10:56.015 --> 01:10:56.235 Yeah. 01:10:56.255 --> 01:10:57.475 They've got 100 B-sides. 01:10:57.555 --> 01:10:58.596 October is orange. 01:10:58.656 --> 01:10:58.956 Yeah. 01:10:59.496 --> 01:11:00.436 Here's, do you want a bit more? 01:11:00.497 --> 01:11:00.837 Please. 01:11:01.077 --> 01:11:01.637 Here's a bit more. 01:11:03.919 --> 01:11:05.841 It's from playing Mannequin, okay. 01:11:07.442 --> 01:11:12.626 Now I'll quickly just spin you a Tears for Fears latest single. 01:11:12.846 --> 01:11:19.612 This is called Mad World and it's very original style and I knew they had to make it someday, Tears for Fears. 01:11:20.390 --> 01:11:27.118 And I'm very glad that they have, at last, tears for fears, Mad World. 01:11:27.179 --> 01:11:29.301 Well, elongating the last syllable. 01:11:29.461 --> 01:11:36.210 I love the fact that John Scott's been a champion of tears for fears for so long, and he's really pleased that they're finally... Yeah, they've broken through. 01:11:36.230 --> 01:11:37.571 Because they've got such an original sound. 01:11:39.798 --> 01:11:58.028 man the spiel about tears for fears was actually longer i cut it down because it was so painful i talk about how depressed i've been lately and how tears for fears express how depressed i've been and how there should be more depressing music in the charts but i had to snip that out 01:11:58.268 --> 01:11:59.009 Mad world. 01:11:59.069 --> 01:12:00.650 So that must have been about 81. 01:12:01.090 --> 01:12:01.630 Yeah. 01:12:03.312 --> 01:12:04.192 So you'd have been 11. 01:12:04.672 --> 01:12:05.953 Yeah, that's all right. 01:12:05.973 --> 01:12:06.494 That's all right. 01:12:06.734 --> 01:12:10.617 There's one more clip, I think, which sort of recaps the records I've played. 01:12:10.737 --> 01:12:11.077 Here we go. 01:12:15.826 --> 01:12:19.148 The records you've played so far have been October's Iron Check at 100. 01:12:19.188 --> 01:12:36.500 The B is Walking on the Moon, My Goldfield, Wonderful Land, Keep Creole and the Copernauts, Annie I'm Not Your Daddy, Savannah Valley Lifeline, and this one was Shalimar, with Knight, just writing it down myself, to remember. 01:12:38.121 --> 01:12:38.982 Nothing's changed. 01:12:39.162 --> 01:12:40.423 Nothing has changed. 01:12:40.583 --> 01:12:43.845 I'm playing the same music. 01:12:43.865 --> 01:12:44.305 80s music. 01:12:45.606 --> 01:12:47.507 But I'm still writing things down. 01:12:47.547 --> 01:12:50.109 The last 30 years have been utterly inconsequential. 01:12:52.050 --> 01:12:57.253 But look, listen, the reason I'm playing that is, I don't know why, just to mess my head up. 01:12:57.293 --> 01:12:58.114 That was good, man. 01:12:58.154 --> 01:12:58.894 That was brilliant. 01:12:58.954 --> 01:13:03.637 And also to encourage anybody who can find similarly excruciating clips of themselves. 01:13:03.717 --> 01:13:08.380 If you're a bloke, then before your voice broke is quite key because there's something really painful about that. 01:13:08.480 --> 01:13:08.640 Yeah. 01:13:08.940 --> 01:13:15.106 Or if you're a lady girl, just something really miserably embarrassing from when you were young. 01:13:15.406 --> 01:13:18.709 Particularly our generation who had those little cassette recorders. 01:13:19.910 --> 01:13:31.822 And like we were talking about last week, the discovery you made, that instead of having to buy a blank cassette, you could actually put bits of sellotape over the tabs of a pre-recorded tape that you had, and then go crazy recording things. 01:13:32.282 --> 01:13:39.926 So if you have the facilities to convert any of that to MP3s and send it to us, we'd love to play some embarrassing stuff. 01:13:40.166 --> 01:13:41.687 Have you got anything of yourself, Adam? 01:13:41.987 --> 01:13:44.229 I do, but it's no John Scott. 01:13:44.329 --> 01:13:45.489 And it's from even younger. 01:13:45.509 --> 01:13:47.110 I must have been about six or seven. 01:13:47.270 --> 01:13:47.550 Really? 01:13:47.590 --> 01:13:48.571 So I can barely speak. 01:13:48.611 --> 01:13:49.391 You don't want to play it? 01:13:49.692 --> 01:13:50.932 Well, it's a bit crappy. 01:13:50.952 --> 01:13:55.935 Let's play a real track just to give people a breather and give them an opportunity to escape. 01:13:56.415 --> 01:13:56.915 if they want to. 01:13:56.955 --> 01:13:58.756 This is Friendly Fires with Skeleton Boy. 01:13:58.856 --> 01:14:01.798 I mean, it is kind of like a time capsule, this program though, isn't it? 01:14:01.878 --> 01:14:03.139 That's very 80s as well. 01:14:03.179 --> 01:14:05.280 That was Friendly Fires with Skeleton Boy. 01:14:05.740 --> 01:14:07.741 This is Adam and Joe here on BBC 6 Music. 01:14:07.781 --> 01:14:16.166 Now, Adam was not going to play us the clip of him on the radio as a child, but I just demanded that Ben played it in the studio while that record was on and we've got to play it to the listeners. 01:14:16.426 --> 01:14:18.347 Well, what happened was I was very disappointed. 01:14:18.367 --> 01:14:23.290 I went back and I found this tape and it was marked very old tape from when we used to live in Wales, I think. 01:14:23.991 --> 01:14:27.354 And I must have been about seven, maybe eight, I don't know. 01:14:28.135 --> 01:14:35.563 And what I used to do was, pre-VCRs, I would just use my dad's dictaphone to tape the audio of my favourite programmes, right? 01:14:35.583 --> 01:14:36.284 Did you ever do that? 01:14:36.364 --> 01:14:38.606 Yeah, I had the whole climax of Moonraker. 01:14:39.187 --> 01:14:39.747 on audio. 01:14:40.067 --> 01:14:44.989 And because you wanted to preserve the experience so much, I don't think I ever listened back to them. 01:14:45.049 --> 01:14:45.790 Maybe I did, actually. 01:14:45.810 --> 01:14:48.591 I think I listened back to the Muppets shows. 01:14:48.611 --> 01:14:50.131 I don't think it needs too much introduction. 01:14:50.371 --> 01:14:56.114 So it's got the beginning of a Muppet show, and then it goes into Adam Buxton as a DJ, and then it cuts out prematurely, but you're going to bridge the gap for us. 01:14:56.134 --> 01:14:57.114 Yes, exactly. 01:14:57.174 --> 01:15:01.716 So what I do is I start telling a joke, but then as I'm setting it up, it cuts out. 01:15:01.756 --> 01:15:02.596 Yeah, that's just serious. 01:15:03.257 --> 01:15:05.057 And no one ever knows. 01:15:05.357 --> 01:15:06.198 I'm afraid. 01:15:07.856 --> 01:15:11.679 Julie Andrews joins the Muppets on Christmas Day at a quarter to six. 01:15:13.900 --> 01:15:14.680 Oh well, never mind. 01:15:15.401 --> 01:15:18.483 See you tomorrow with another breakfast show at the same time. 01:15:18.823 --> 01:15:19.163 Tomorrow. 01:15:19.564 --> 01:15:20.484 Bye! 01:15:21.325 --> 01:15:24.947 Oh, just a minute, we've got a joke here. 01:15:25.047 --> 01:15:26.908 It says here, two Irishmen. 01:15:27.068 --> 01:15:27.469 Oh dear. 01:15:27.729 --> 01:15:28.830 Oh, two Irishmen. 01:15:28.890 --> 01:15:31.251 Oh no. 01:15:31.791 --> 01:15:32.212 Three men. 01:15:33.353 --> 01:15:34.573 Two Englishmen and... 01:15:37.023 --> 01:15:37.463 Oh dear. 01:15:37.904 --> 01:15:41.305 It's like a young Jerry Seinfeld. 01:15:54.018 --> 01:15:57.681 The Irishman said, bet you can't, we'll go first. 01:15:57.901 --> 01:16:00.943 Put the watches downstairs, went down, smashed them into these pieces. 01:16:00.963 --> 01:16:12.032 Yes, well, the Irishman put his watch in the first place, went home, had lunch, had tea, had supper, came back. 01:16:12.831 --> 01:16:17.273 Right, so there's Terry Wogan there at the end who gets taped over the middle of the joke. 01:16:17.293 --> 01:16:19.014 Your junk telling skills have improved. 01:16:19.034 --> 01:16:19.434 Do you reckon? 01:16:19.754 --> 01:16:24.056 Yeah, I mean, that's very, that joke fragments and dissipates pretty early on. 01:16:24.576 --> 01:16:27.177 I mean, three Irishmen in and of itself is a good start. 01:16:27.457 --> 01:16:28.398 It's a little bit racist. 01:16:28.478 --> 01:16:28.838 It's two. 01:16:28.898 --> 01:16:30.239 It turns out there was just one in the end. 01:16:30.259 --> 01:16:31.839 There was two Englishmen and one Irishman. 01:16:31.859 --> 01:16:31.979 Right. 01:16:31.999 --> 01:16:32.560 Yeah, it's a racist. 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:35.521 I mean, in the 70s though, it was all fine. 01:16:35.581 --> 01:16:39.303 It was like on TV, it was all Irishmen, Scotsmen, all that kind of stuff. 01:16:39.323 --> 01:16:40.043 Yeah, that was all fine. 01:16:40.143 --> 01:16:40.743 But that was good. 01:16:40.803 --> 01:16:42.924 I think I don't necessarily think we need to hear the rest. 01:16:42.944 --> 01:16:44.565 The thrill there was just... Do you want to hear the punchline? 01:16:44.645 --> 01:16:45.445 Okay. 01:16:45.485 --> 01:16:46.646 Is it long? 01:16:46.666 --> 01:16:47.726 It's very poor quality. 01:16:47.806 --> 01:16:59.891 So basically, right, the Irishman has challenged the Englishman and said, I bet you I can slide my watch down this banister, go home and have all these meals and then come back and grab it before it smashes, right? 01:17:00.531 --> 01:17:07.396 And so the Englishman do it, but their watches smash into a million pieces, but the Irishman does it and he manages it. 01:17:07.477 --> 01:17:09.058 So they're saying, how did you do that? 01:17:09.078 --> 01:17:12.741 And I think I come back and I do a little characterization for the Englishman, how they might talk. 01:17:13.061 --> 01:17:17.064 And I add some extra touches like, you know, those watches cost a lot of money, you know. 01:17:17.344 --> 01:17:18.585 I added that myself, right? 01:17:18.605 --> 01:17:19.906 That wasn't part of the original joke. 01:17:20.306 --> 01:17:24.529 And then I come back and I do like a slight accent for the Irishman explaining how he did it. 01:17:24.810 --> 01:17:25.830 Let's hear that bit then, Ben. 01:17:25.850 --> 01:17:27.852 And he resolves his duties with... 01:17:28.812 --> 01:17:31.374 to the top of the stairs said, how do you do that? 01:17:32.175 --> 01:17:33.757 Those watches cost more than money you know. 01:17:34.277 --> 01:17:40.503 And the elephant said, well, my watch is three hours small. 01:17:41.984 --> 01:17:43.565 See you tomorrow. 01:17:46.898 --> 01:17:48.978 You got very cheery buys going on there. 01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:52.760 Yeah, I'm going to buy Wow, that's powerful stuff. 01:17:53.220 --> 01:17:55.721 Nothing to be embarrassed about my watch was three hours slow though. 01:17:55.741 --> 01:18:04.303 What a good joke I really couldn't follow the joke because that's how he met was able to catch the watch on the banister Cuz it's a bit rambly you still haven't what are you still? 01:18:05.104 --> 01:18:06.124 Managed to sort that out 01:18:07.024 --> 01:18:08.526 I do go off in various different directions. 01:18:08.566 --> 01:18:09.126 Bit rambly. 01:18:09.166 --> 01:18:10.207 It's all there though, isn't it? 01:18:10.308 --> 01:18:10.628 It does. 01:18:10.668 --> 01:18:12.910 It proves to everybody that nothing changes. 01:18:13.070 --> 01:18:14.572 No, plus a change. 01:18:14.592 --> 01:18:14.992 Yeah. 01:18:15.072 --> 01:18:15.653 Anyway, there you go. 01:18:15.673 --> 01:18:20.838 If you've got your own excruciating childhood audio clips to send in, we'd love to hear them. 01:18:21.498 --> 01:18:21.819 Yeah. 01:18:23.020 --> 01:18:23.841 Can we give them an address? 01:18:23.861 --> 01:18:24.882 What was the address again, Ben? 01:18:25.382 --> 01:18:27.965 Well, we want people to send MP3s, really. 01:18:28.005 --> 01:18:29.206 That's the best thing, isn't it? 01:18:29.366 --> 01:18:30.668 You know, people should be able to do that. 01:18:30.788 --> 01:18:38.656 Adam and Joe, that's an ampersand, not A-N-D, dot six music at bbc.co.uk. 01:18:38.716 --> 01:18:40.377 That's the address for anything like that. 01:18:41.078 --> 01:18:41.939 You'd like to send us? 01:18:42.639 --> 01:18:44.020 Oh, I feel quite exhausted and dirty. 01:18:44.040 --> 01:18:44.381 Purged. 01:18:44.921 --> 01:18:45.681 Yeah, do you feel dirty? 01:18:45.762 --> 01:18:46.542 I feel purged. 01:18:46.742 --> 01:18:47.083 Do you? 01:18:47.203 --> 01:18:47.463 Yeah. 01:18:47.543 --> 01:18:47.823 Clean. 01:18:47.923 --> 01:18:48.564 Exorcised. 01:18:48.904 --> 01:18:49.424 Okay, good. 01:18:49.444 --> 01:18:50.925 I think we should stop the show. 01:18:50.965 --> 01:18:51.826 This should be the last one. 01:18:51.846 --> 01:18:54.668 Alright then, this is Billy Bragg with sexuality. 01:18:54.808 --> 01:18:56.710 This is Dom Scott for you, yeah? 01:18:57.350 --> 01:19:01.353 And I'll be with you for the next hour, playing the best from the charts and the best of your choice. 01:19:02.053 --> 01:19:04.314 Start off by getting things on the road with this track. 01:19:04.895 --> 01:19:08.257 The B-side to Nobody's Fool by Heather 100. 01:19:08.997 --> 01:19:10.518 It's called October is Iron. 01:19:10.678 --> 01:19:13.840 Las Vegas there with flowers and football tops. 01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:16.762 You're listening to Adam and Joe here on BBC 6 Music. 01:19:16.822 --> 01:19:18.783 It's a great pleasure to have you along. 01:19:19.244 --> 01:19:20.524 Last year with John Scott. 01:19:21.485 --> 01:19:21.785 Hello! 01:19:21.805 --> 01:19:38.190 No, last week we did a segment called Pop Psychology where we were offering psychological help to young bands and we spoke to Liam from the Stroking Coats and offered him some advice on how to get that band going. 01:19:38.510 --> 01:19:40.951 We'll come back to this segment next week probably 01:19:41.451 --> 01:19:45.613 But one of the problems with stroking coats was they were worried that their dads were interfering too much. 01:19:45.653 --> 01:19:52.798 They were a young band, 15, 16 year olds, and their dads were overstepping the boundaries, you know, and maybe interfering too much. 01:19:53.078 --> 01:19:58.861 And we suggested that they ditch their dads or got their dads on stage and stuff like that. 01:19:58.901 --> 01:20:00.622 We were suggesting humiliating the dads. 01:20:00.702 --> 01:20:05.745 That was one of our main bits of advice was lose the dads or make them a feature of ridicule. 01:20:05.925 --> 01:20:10.049 Yeah, so if you were listening to that, you might be interested in this email we've received from Rich. 01:20:10.069 --> 01:20:11.610 I assume that's short for Richard. 01:20:11.630 --> 01:20:15.974 He says, Adam and Joe, I'm standing up for the rights of all dads out there that help with their son's band. 01:20:16.394 --> 01:20:20.058 I just listened to the podcast in which Liam from Stroking Coats was interviewed. 01:20:20.498 --> 01:20:21.359 And what have you started? 01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.882 I bet he never thought we'd hear it, because I'm one of the dads. 01:20:25.302 --> 01:20:28.006 Not Liam's dad, but Chris's dad, the lead guitarist. 01:20:28.366 --> 01:20:37.399 Now look, 16-year-olds can't drive tour buses or vans, and taxis are pretty dear these days, and trying to carry your bass guitar and amp on a pushbike, I wouldn't advise it. 01:20:37.679 --> 01:20:41.624 It's also a pretty long walk to some of the gigs, us dads secure for them. 01:20:42.165 --> 01:20:43.346 Can you see where I'm going with this? 01:20:43.386 --> 01:20:44.828 He says, this is an angry dad. 01:20:45.188 --> 01:20:53.216 As dads, I think it's important that we impart some of our worldly knowledge and experiences onto them, but we draw the line onto passing on our flares and tank tops. 01:20:53.677 --> 01:21:01.404 We think they're an excellent young band, they've done a lot with our support in a short space of time, and hopefully some of your listeners logging onto their Myspace, then he tries to plug the band. 01:21:01.825 --> 01:21:02.766 Fair enough, he's a dad. 01:21:03.667 --> 01:21:10.014 Can you not remember when your parents took an interest in something you were doing as a youngster and you looked back and thought, you know, they were right. 01:21:11.656 --> 01:21:13.718 So you see dads play an important role. 01:21:14.099 --> 01:21:17.282 That's something parents say to you all the time, isn't it, when you get older you'll understand. 01:21:17.643 --> 01:21:22.448 But I cannot for the life of me remember a single moment where I've ever gone, you know, he was right. 01:21:23.189 --> 01:21:25.851 No, I just don't think... I think that's fundamentally... Not that they weren't, right? 01:21:26.311 --> 01:21:32.935 I think it's fundamentally at odds, or it should be at odds with what you're interested in at that age, you know? 01:21:32.955 --> 01:21:35.677 Well, the dad shouldn't expect to pay off to that kind of advice. 01:21:35.697 --> 01:21:35.937 No. 01:21:36.017 --> 01:21:36.778 It's unconditional. 01:21:37.058 --> 01:21:40.100 I know what he means about, listen, as a dad, of course, what are you going to do? 01:21:40.320 --> 01:21:42.741 You want the best for your sons or daughters, right? 01:21:42.761 --> 01:21:48.385 You're going to drive them around, you're going to make sure they're okay, you want to get them safe to the gigs and get them back and all that kind of thing. 01:21:48.945 --> 01:21:53.250 But it is, there's no getting away from the fact that it is at odds with the beating heart of rock and roll. 01:21:53.270 --> 01:21:56.434 Well, it's when a dad tries to have creative control. 01:21:56.514 --> 01:21:57.515 That's when you have big trubs. 01:21:57.915 --> 01:21:58.015 Right. 01:21:58.035 --> 01:22:02.320 Okay, it's fine as a manager and organisational, but you don't want them writing the songs. 01:22:02.741 --> 01:22:03.221 Do you? 01:22:03.942 --> 01:22:04.522 or playing. 01:22:05.023 --> 01:22:07.444 It's all you're trying to say, but thank you very much for emailing, Richard. 01:22:07.604 --> 01:22:08.764 It's now time for the news. 01:22:08.944 --> 01:22:18.069 Now, Ben, there was quite a big cross on the playlist after John Scott went through it earlier on, indicating which songs he wanted dropped. 01:22:18.549 --> 01:22:20.930 And John Scott does not like Oasis. 01:22:21.070 --> 01:22:21.290 No. 01:22:21.310 --> 01:22:23.331 They know her got 100. 01:22:25.592 --> 01:22:26.893 John Scott likes Shalimar. 01:22:28.186 --> 01:22:29.567 And October is orange, the B-side. 01:22:29.587 --> 01:22:30.808 D'you have to be very depressing. 01:22:31.629 --> 01:22:34.312 How dare you mock me. 01:22:34.552 --> 01:22:37.315 So John Scott doesn't want any more oasis. 01:22:37.755 --> 01:22:40.378 What Scott says goes. 01:22:40.558 --> 01:22:43.440 You don't want to be on the receiving end of Scott's Roth. 01:22:44.682 --> 01:22:46.303 Tiny little John Scott. 01:22:47.344 --> 01:22:50.888 Tiny little rain of fists from the Scott Meister. 01:22:53.390 --> 01:22:55.513 This is Adam and Jo on BBC Six Music. 01:22:55.653 --> 01:22:57.735 It's time for some more text-the-nations now, right? 01:22:57.775 --> 01:22:58.135 Yeah, yeah. 01:22:58.175 --> 01:22:58.816 Let's wrap this up. 01:22:59.096 --> 01:23:01.119 Jingle band, please. 01:23:01.939 --> 01:23:02.680 Text-a-nation. 01:23:02.820 --> 01:23:03.881 Text, text, text. 01:23:04.002 --> 01:23:04.742 Text-a-nation. 01:23:04.802 --> 01:23:05.783 What if I don't want to? 01:23:06.004 --> 01:23:06.704 Text-a-nation. 01:23:06.724 --> 01:23:07.846 But I'm using email. 01:23:08.006 --> 01:23:08.727 Is that a problem? 01:23:08.767 --> 01:23:09.327 It doesn't matter. 01:23:09.347 --> 01:23:09.607 Text! 01:23:11.829 --> 01:23:19.032 Now we've got lots of really good ones and we won't be able to get through them all, unfortunately, so... Hey, but listen, we might be able to include a few in the podcast, right? 01:23:19.093 --> 01:23:20.073 That's true, actually. 01:23:20.113 --> 01:23:21.394 Yeah, bonus ones in the podcast. 01:23:21.454 --> 01:23:23.074 Okay, but here are some. 01:23:23.094 --> 01:23:23.775 This is from Jenny. 01:23:23.815 --> 01:23:26.916 Sometimes, just to set up the premise, this is public performance. 01:23:27.016 --> 01:23:30.118 Things you pretend that you're doing in order to get out of different... 01:23:30.658 --> 01:23:32.139 difficult social situations. 01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:34.801 Yeah, to cover up things that you're embarrassed or awkward about. 01:23:34.821 --> 01:23:35.641 Behavior you're embarrassed about. 01:23:35.681 --> 01:23:43.726 Yeah, so Jenny says, sometimes when I get off the bus in the morning, I pretend I need to get off first and just run down the street as if I'm in a rush to get to work. 01:23:44.126 --> 01:23:47.028 The truth is, it doesn't really matter what time I get to work. 01:23:47.468 --> 01:23:50.410 I think I just like the excitement of running. 01:23:50.610 --> 01:23:51.271 She's busy. 01:23:52.491 --> 01:23:54.773 She's got something to be. 01:23:54.833 --> 01:23:57.714 Pretending to be. 01:23:57.915 --> 01:23:58.415 I'm busy. 01:23:58.435 --> 01:23:59.155 I'm busy. 01:23:59.335 --> 01:23:59.656 Oh, look. 01:24:00.336 --> 01:24:00.576 Yes. 01:24:01.056 --> 01:24:14.381 John in Wrexham says, sometimes when I fall into a daze at work and I spot that someone has noticed my lack of activity, I'll pick up and shake my computer mouse or fiddle with the wires behind the computer in an attempt to blame it on some sort of IT problem. 01:24:14.721 --> 01:24:23.304 I sometimes even say something like, at last, or that's got it before hurriedly getting back to looking busy, says John in Wrexham. 01:24:23.904 --> 01:24:24.865 Nice one, John. 01:24:25.205 --> 01:24:25.786 At last! 01:24:26.086 --> 01:24:27.827 I mean, at last I can do some work. 01:24:27.987 --> 01:24:31.149 That's basically half of what you do in an office anyway, though, isn't it? 01:24:31.469 --> 01:24:34.111 Yeah, that's basically crippling Britain's productivity. 01:24:34.691 --> 01:24:37.133 It's trying to look busy and staring at the screen. 01:24:37.173 --> 01:24:42.377 Something I do every now and again when I'm in that situation is I will, again, use my notebook. 01:24:42.397 --> 01:24:48.541 A notebook is a very useful thing to have around you at all times, like for when you've got real ideas or when you just want to pretend, you know? 01:24:48.621 --> 01:24:50.922 I'll look at the screen, then I'll look down and pretend to be making notes. 01:24:51.082 --> 01:24:53.364 I'm making notes from the things I'm looking at on the screen. 01:24:54.224 --> 01:24:55.085 Yes, good prop. 01:24:55.425 --> 01:25:03.349 Robert in Bermondsey says sometimes while listening to the Adam and Jo podcast while in public, I'll emit a loud involuntary bark of laughter which tends to attract attention. 01:25:03.629 --> 01:25:15.455 When this happens I'll often clutch the cable of my iPod next to my phone, creating a makeshift hands-free kit, then improvise an amusing phone conversation to mask the fact that I'm laughing in the loneliest way possible. 01:25:16.215 --> 01:25:17.516 That's quite elaborate, isn't it? 01:25:17.836 --> 01:25:23.958 But, I mean, I would say that's a particularly weird one, because who would begrudge another person a bit of laughter? 01:25:24.058 --> 01:25:25.558 Well, some people don't understand podcasts. 01:25:25.918 --> 01:25:26.338 Right, right. 01:25:26.358 --> 01:25:28.179 Well, they don't understand the nature of that kind of thing. 01:25:28.219 --> 01:25:31.460 Have you ever been tempted to ask someone what they were listening to when they laugh out loud? 01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:32.860 No, I really have. 01:25:32.980 --> 01:25:33.320 Have you? 01:25:33.440 --> 01:25:33.781 Yeah. 01:25:34.241 --> 01:25:38.642 I almost have just said, excuse me, sorry to interrupt, but what are you laughing at? 01:25:39.722 --> 01:25:40.362 Is that insane? 01:25:40.502 --> 01:25:41.343 Here's one from Tim. 01:25:41.423 --> 01:25:42.723 No, it's perfectly logical. 01:25:42.903 --> 01:25:43.263 It's good. 01:25:43.323 --> 01:25:43.683 It's good. 01:25:44.243 --> 01:25:50.585 Tim says, if I need to spin 180 degrees in the street, I used to put my finger up in the air like I'd forgotten something. 01:25:51.165 --> 01:26:03.409 Now I just purposefully turn around as if my last step is the exact destination I want to get to, then walk back and revel in the thought that anyone around me has just witnessed that slightly odd and amusing sight of someone completely changing direction. 01:26:03.729 --> 01:26:04.969 I like the finger in the air. 01:26:05.809 --> 01:26:07.390 That's quite sort of forties, isn't it? 01:26:07.870 --> 01:26:07.950 Ah! 01:26:08.730 --> 01:26:33.047 and turning round that's the opposite that's not hiding something it's it's going over the top with it in order to sort of make it deliberate yeah make it super conspicuous exactly ian in knottingham says sometimes when i'm at work i like to grab a clipboard and just walk around the stock room picking up various products pretending to observe them then making pretend notes yeah pretend notes is where it's at for me as well yeah that's a kind of time-wasting technique i suppose 01:26:34.107 --> 01:26:40.809 Here's one from Jason Ward, seeing someone famous and pretending you don't know who they are as you don't want to appear rude. 01:26:41.249 --> 01:26:47.811 This happened to me the other week when I literally bumped into Joe at Sainsbury's in Vauxhall and had to pretend I didn't know exactly who he was. 01:26:47.831 --> 01:26:48.531 Do you remember that guy? 01:26:48.951 --> 01:26:50.972 No I don't, he did a very good job of pretending. 01:26:52.712 --> 01:27:12.545 uh any more well let's save a few for the podcast okay so this is an added incentive for you guys to download here's a literary tip somebody anonymously has texted in the sentence your text the nation this week seems to be a riff on irvin gothman's the presentation of the self in everyday life which i presume is a book all about this kind of 01:27:12.605 --> 01:27:13.025 thing. 01:27:13.246 --> 01:27:14.727 So that's a further reading tip. 01:27:14.967 --> 01:27:15.167 Yeah. 01:27:15.407 --> 01:27:15.948 You know what I mean? 01:27:16.008 --> 01:27:17.689 It's a reference. 01:27:18.089 --> 01:27:23.874 But it's never going to be, Ervin Gough's never going to have presented it with the same Elan and with a little jingle at the top. 01:27:24.094 --> 01:27:24.634 That's true. 01:27:24.694 --> 01:27:25.915 That's where Gough falls down. 01:27:25.975 --> 01:27:26.295 Yeah. 01:27:26.335 --> 01:27:27.676 You always did your time, Goughman. 01:27:28.757 --> 01:27:29.518 The Goughmeister. 01:27:29.992 --> 01:27:32.413 Okay, thank you very much indeed for all your texts and emails. 01:27:32.514 --> 01:27:39.818 And yes, don't forget that we will include some of them, a few little extra ones, in our podcast, which you'll be able to download from Monday evening. 01:27:40.218 --> 01:27:41.699 But that's it for Text the Nation this week. 01:27:41.779 --> 01:27:42.699 It's time for a trail! 01:27:42.759 --> 01:27:44.780 That is... wickles and wackles, isn't it? 01:27:44.901 --> 01:27:45.661 That was Pulp. 01:27:45.761 --> 01:27:46.742 And were they in session there? 01:27:46.762 --> 01:27:48.202 Oh, I thought it was wickles and wackles. 01:27:48.983 --> 01:27:50.404 I prefer them. 01:27:51.064 --> 01:27:56.086 Yeah, they were in session for John Peel's programme on Radio 1, 30th of May, 1992. 01:27:57.207 --> 01:28:07.611 Now, just to wrap up a bit of business, we were asking you to help us decide what the next Song Wars theme should be, and it was between doing a tribute song for lovely Hif. 01:28:08.451 --> 01:28:17.735 Sif, our beautiful model who was in touch with us a while back, and Ben, our producer, dropped a bombshell by playing a recorded phone message that she left. 01:28:17.755 --> 01:28:19.776 She's imploring us to do a song for her. 01:28:19.936 --> 01:28:20.076 Yeah. 01:28:20.276 --> 01:28:23.658 And it's between that and the idea of doing some 80s songs. 01:28:23.678 --> 01:28:30.683 We were going to try and make a song each that sounded, you know, the most powerfully evocative 80s song possible. 01:28:30.803 --> 01:28:39.368 So basically it was a choice between trying to impress a beautiful lady that we've never met before or doing an 80s song. 01:28:40.048 --> 01:28:43.050 And thank you for everybody who helped us make our decision. 01:28:43.090 --> 01:28:44.831 Apparently, we're not allowed to call this a vote. 01:28:46.192 --> 01:28:46.873 I don't know why. 01:28:46.933 --> 01:28:51.055 It must be some more fallout from the big bomb that went off two years ago. 01:28:51.075 --> 01:28:51.756 Yeah. 01:28:51.956 --> 01:28:52.476 Socksgate. 01:28:52.737 --> 01:28:53.837 Socksgate, or whatever it was. 01:28:54.217 --> 01:28:55.198 But we can't call it a vote. 01:28:55.238 --> 01:28:57.059 So in no way was this vote a vote. 01:28:58.300 --> 01:29:00.842 But here are the results of the vote that isn't a vote. 01:29:00.942 --> 01:29:05.565 It was an indication, an aggregated indication of opinion. 01:29:06.025 --> 01:29:07.546 Yes, and what were the scores? 01:29:09.667 --> 01:29:10.667 What were the percentages? 01:29:11.068 --> 01:29:12.028 Are you not going to read them out? 01:29:12.428 --> 01:29:13.529 And how did the vote pan out? 01:29:15.250 --> 01:29:15.890 Who won the vote? 01:29:15.930 --> 01:29:17.951 Who wasn't the vote? 01:29:17.971 --> 01:29:18.351 68% for who? 01:29:19.152 --> 01:29:19.712 For the 80s. 01:29:19.752 --> 01:29:22.534 So I'm afraid, Sif, that 80s has won out. 01:29:22.634 --> 01:29:23.274 It's going to have to wait. 01:29:23.314 --> 01:29:24.755 I mean, we might still do that. 01:29:25.215 --> 01:29:29.877 I don't want you to think that we're not interested in Iceland and new and songs. 01:29:29.937 --> 01:29:30.818 I'm very interested. 01:29:31.358 --> 01:29:46.527 uh you know we might do it at a later date but we want to make it right for the time being we're going to concentrate our efforts on doing the ultimate 80s song it seems to be the right moment to do that you know and we're going to give ourselves two weeks to do it so we won't unveil the finished songs next week but but the week after 01:29:46.947 --> 01:29:58.076 And if you've got any suggestions listeners for any lyrical content or any particular facets of an 80s song you'd like us to try and represent for instance One of the conditions is it has to have a spoken word segment. 01:29:58.096 --> 01:30:09.085 Yeah, we were discussing that earlier so if you can think of any other tropes that that are particular to 80s music and what about the Musical style because obviously you were a big fan of the funk. 01:30:09.145 --> 01:30:09.626 We know dr. Scott 01:30:10.146 --> 01:30:15.409 Yeah, but I wouldn't say, I'd say a lot of 80s was funky, but not, you know, through and through funky. 01:30:15.429 --> 01:30:18.091 It was a weird, a lot of it was a weird hybrid of funk and rock, wasn't it? 01:30:18.131 --> 01:30:21.694 That was one of the things that was going wrong or right, or however you look at it. 01:30:21.914 --> 01:30:30.099 Right, that kind of gang of four, angular, choppy guitar sound, the haircut 100 type thing, as opposed to a lot of the... Well, the 80s was a long decade. 01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:33.921 There were lots of different styles, but our challenge is to cram all those styles in. 01:30:34.001 --> 01:30:37.764 So it sounds like the ultimate, you know, the ultimate 80s song. 01:30:38.184 --> 01:30:38.765 Oh, man. 01:30:38.925 --> 01:30:41.046 I'm not sure my musical drop's gonna be up to it. 01:30:41.547 --> 01:30:43.969 I need, we need the help of an actual 80s band. 01:30:45.150 --> 01:30:47.712 If only I could get Phil Okey to help me do something like that. 01:30:47.732 --> 01:30:50.314 If only I could get Nick Haywood to help me do something like that. 01:30:50.914 --> 01:30:55.478 You could cut, yeah, because if you got Haywood, you could come in with the ultimate choppy-funk masterpiece. 01:30:55.498 --> 01:30:55.998 Exactly. 01:30:56.498 --> 01:30:59.941 Someone out there has got to know Nick Haywood and Phil Okey. 01:31:00.501 --> 01:31:00.782 You know? 01:31:00.802 --> 01:31:05.445 Or, um... Or Nick Bellowy's son was still around. 01:31:05.545 --> 01:31:06.586 Bellowy's son, surely. 01:31:06.826 --> 01:31:07.687 What's Bellowy's son? 01:31:07.927 --> 01:31:08.868 What about Blemange? 01:31:08.968 --> 01:31:11.070 Although Blemange was too idiosyncratic, perhaps. 01:31:11.190 --> 01:31:12.070 Oh, but they were good. 01:31:12.251 --> 01:31:12.631 They were great. 01:31:12.651 --> 01:31:13.592 What was his name, Neil? 01:31:13.892 --> 01:31:14.452 Neil Arthur. 01:31:15.273 --> 01:31:19.657 If you can get us in touch with any of those people and they'd be prepared to help with our 80s song wars, please get in touch. 01:31:19.717 --> 01:31:22.999 Adamandjo.6music at bbc.co.uk. 01:31:23.259 --> 01:31:24.060 Thanks to everyone. 01:31:24.200 --> 01:31:25.721 Are we doing another link before we say goodbye? 01:31:25.782 --> 01:31:25.962 Yeah. 01:31:26.042 --> 01:31:26.482 Yeah, yeah. 01:31:26.522 --> 01:31:28.224 So I would retract those thanks. 01:31:28.564 --> 01:31:29.825 Yeah, take back those thanks. 01:31:29.845 --> 01:31:30.305 No thanks to anybody. 01:31:30.345 --> 01:31:32.327 Way premature on the thanks front. 01:31:32.407 --> 01:31:33.168 Here's some more music. 01:31:33.388 --> 01:31:34.328 This is Pete Fox's. 01:31:35.129 --> 01:31:38.171 That's Fleet Foxes with... He doesn't know why. 01:31:38.191 --> 01:31:41.474 Yeah, I'll be seeing them at the Roundhouse in London on Sunday. 01:31:41.514 --> 01:31:42.715 I'm very excited about that. 01:31:42.735 --> 01:31:44.496 I bet there'll be some Stevenage there. 01:31:44.956 --> 01:31:45.517 I hope so. 01:31:46.457 --> 01:31:50.100 Did you see Mickey O'Rourke on Jonathan O'Ross? 01:31:50.260 --> 01:31:50.440 No. 01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:51.041 Last night. 01:31:51.241 --> 01:31:51.981 He was great, man. 01:31:52.121 --> 01:31:52.302 Yeah. 01:31:52.382 --> 01:31:53.402 People love Rourke. 01:31:53.963 --> 01:31:55.884 He's gonna clean up at the Oscars, don't you think? 01:31:55.904 --> 01:31:56.264 Do you think? 01:31:56.384 --> 01:31:56.545 Yeah. 01:31:57.577 --> 01:32:01.262 Yeah, well, his life story is inseparable from the story in the movie, right? 01:32:01.743 --> 01:32:04.086 You would think so. 01:32:04.186 --> 01:32:05.267 I haven't seen that movie either. 01:32:05.628 --> 01:32:06.729 I can't wait to see it though. 01:32:06.749 --> 01:32:07.911 I'm looking forward to it. 01:32:08.592 --> 01:32:10.775 And he is a lovable rogue. 01:32:12.657 --> 01:32:19.520 The nice thing about him is that he seems so genuinely contrite and he seems kind of, you know, relatively well balanced after all his ups and downs. 01:32:19.820 --> 01:32:20.541 When are the Oscars? 01:32:21.241 --> 01:32:22.142 Are they this Sunday? 01:32:22.202 --> 01:32:23.382 I think they're Sunday night, yeah. 01:32:23.462 --> 01:32:23.682 Is it? 01:32:23.762 --> 01:32:24.243 Sunday night? 01:32:24.463 --> 01:32:24.863 Ooh! 01:32:25.043 --> 01:32:26.864 Imagine all the Oscar news we'll have next week. 01:32:26.924 --> 01:32:28.344 I mean, when I say news... I can't watch them. 01:32:28.384 --> 01:32:29.325 I got rid of my sky. 01:32:29.605 --> 01:32:30.025 Did you? 01:32:30.145 --> 01:32:31.026 Yeah, Credit Crunch. 01:32:31.326 --> 01:32:32.247 Credit Crunch. 01:32:32.947 --> 01:32:35.609 You know, I whittled down a whole load of my subscriptions on Sky. 01:32:35.709 --> 01:32:37.190 I got rid of all the movies. 01:32:37.511 --> 01:32:38.351 Well, will you video them? 01:32:38.831 --> 01:32:39.332 Yes, I will. 01:32:39.412 --> 01:32:42.514 Video them and burn them off onto a DVD or at least report. 01:32:42.834 --> 01:32:44.375 Because they're going to do it all different. 01:32:44.415 --> 01:32:47.297 It's going to be like a club and Jackman's doing something weird. 01:32:47.337 --> 01:32:48.338 They're trying to save it. 01:32:48.578 --> 01:32:48.878 No. 01:32:48.918 --> 01:32:50.920 They're going to present the awards in a different kind of way. 01:32:51.280 --> 01:32:51.681 club. 01:32:51.801 --> 01:32:55.066 Yeah it promises to be a spectacular bit of car crash television. 01:32:55.547 --> 01:32:55.707 Oh no. 01:32:55.747 --> 01:32:57.750 So please video it because it could be good. 01:32:57.810 --> 01:32:58.291 Will do. 01:32:58.792 --> 01:33:02.697 Listeners thank you so much indeed for joining us we really appreciate it as ever. 01:33:02.758 --> 01:33:04.841 Yeah thanks to everyone who's texted in the email. 01:33:05.261 --> 01:33:06.103 And don't forget 01:33:06.363 --> 01:33:21.132 We're just about to go and record our special extra links for the podcast right now, and you'll be able to download the whole thing, the edited highlights from this show, plus our little extra nuggets on Monday evening after our producer Ben has woven his magic with it. 01:33:21.873 --> 01:33:26.976 We'll be back with you at the same time next week, 9 till 12 on Saturday morning here on BBC 6 Music. 01:33:26.996 --> 01:33:29.638 Stay tuned for Liz Kershaw and have a wonderful week. 01:33:30.178 --> 01:33:30.558 Take care. 01:33:30.598 --> 01:33:30.819 Bye. 01:33:30.839 --> 01:33:30.899 Bye.