WEBVTT 00:14.844 --> 00:17.365 That's Prince, the tiny pixie man. 00:17.425 --> 00:23.046 He comes from a purple fairy land and you can buy tickets there if you want. 00:23.486 --> 00:28.788 Now that's Prince and the new power generation as distinct from Prince and the Revolution. 00:29.648 --> 00:30.328 Right, the NPG. 00:30.368 --> 00:33.789 Or Prince and Madhouse, who was his backing band. 00:33.889 --> 00:34.089 Right. 00:34.729 --> 00:38.532 But he never made himself publicly known as Princeton Madhouse, though. 00:38.692 --> 00:39.433 No, that's correct. 00:39.453 --> 00:41.835 But he does play on all those Madhouse records. 00:42.155 --> 00:43.456 What's he playing on those records? 00:43.636 --> 00:44.076 Keyboards. 00:44.096 --> 00:44.817 He plays everything. 00:45.758 --> 00:46.258 Scrabble. 00:47.619 --> 00:47.919 Go. 00:48.059 --> 00:48.740 He likes Go. 00:49.140 --> 00:50.081 Does he play Boggle? 00:50.141 --> 00:51.062 He loves Boggle. 00:51.082 --> 00:51.782 What about Coggle? 00:52.423 --> 00:53.283 He hates Coggle. 00:53.524 --> 00:54.604 Because he thinks it's a step too far. 00:54.624 --> 00:56.226 He flies into a little purple rage. 00:59.187 --> 01:00.348 Kogel had my studio! 01:00.588 --> 01:02.410 No Boggle, he's fine with Kogel, he doesn't like it. 01:02.430 --> 01:03.630 Sorry, he made a mistake. 01:04.171 --> 01:04.992 How does he talk again? 01:05.012 --> 01:06.092 Like this! 01:07.654 --> 01:08.114 I don't know. 01:08.154 --> 01:10.035 Hey, this is Joe speaking. 01:10.276 --> 01:11.436 And this is Adam speaking. 01:11.817 --> 01:16.060 Welcome to the Adam and Joe radio show here on BBC Six Music on a lovely Saturday morning. 01:16.440 --> 01:21.604 But with a view to complete transparency listeners, we should let you know that this show is pre-recorded. 01:21.885 --> 01:23.145 This is a pre-recorded programme. 01:23.166 --> 01:26.208 It was pre-recorded a week ago on Friday. 01:26.628 --> 01:29.451 Yeah, it was actually recorded before last week's live show. 01:29.572 --> 01:30.553 That's confusing, isn't it? 01:30.573 --> 01:41.685 Which is confusing because as we stand now, we have to think about things to say that won't be out of date in a week. 01:42.026 --> 01:45.530 It sounds like you're having trouble thinking of things to say per se. 01:46.110 --> 01:48.232 No, I'm just trying to get my head round the time-travelling aspects. 01:48.252 --> 01:49.092 We can't see anything topical. 01:49.292 --> 01:49.813 That's the thing. 01:49.833 --> 01:54.916 Do you think it affects the mood of the show and do you think it affects the listener, the fact that this is pre-recorded? 01:55.057 --> 01:55.577 Yes, I do. 01:55.917 --> 01:57.178 Do you think people are less interested? 01:57.358 --> 01:58.259 Ah, that's a pre-recorded. 01:58.279 --> 02:01.041 Yeah, people get absolutely furious with things that are pre-recorded. 02:01.101 --> 02:01.381 Really? 02:01.461 --> 02:05.324 Yeah, because... Like they'll be saying, this was two weeks ago, how can this be relevant to the world now? 02:05.424 --> 02:06.285 So much has changed. 02:06.505 --> 02:10.207 That's because that's half the reason you listen to the radio, is to hear what's happening right now. 02:10.528 --> 02:10.688 Yeah. 02:10.748 --> 02:11.909 And there's something depressing about it. 02:11.949 --> 02:14.691 You know in the film, The Thing, the remake, the John Carpenter version. 02:14.711 --> 02:14.911 Yeah. 02:16.072 --> 02:22.358 They sit round in this ice station where all these guys work, and they watch old video tapes of game shows. 02:22.939 --> 02:32.088 And that's one of the most depressing images in a film that I can think of, is watching like, not like classic films or anything, but ephemeral bits of telly that you know the ending of. 02:32.208 --> 02:48.776 I had a friend who would switch off a DVD in order to watch the same film on telly because he felt that it was a collective experience watching it on telly absolutely he liked the subconscious idea that millions of other people were watching so this shows a bit like that even though it's not live lots of other people are listening 02:49.016 --> 02:49.216 Yeah. 02:49.556 --> 02:52.418 So it's vital and brilliant and everyone should carry on listening. 02:52.779 --> 03:05.808 And you know, someone said to me the other day, they were talking about Russell Brand, like when Russell had his show on radio too, they objected to it when he pre-recorded because they said it made them feel that he was too good for them somehow. 03:05.928 --> 03:07.849 Like he was, he was lording it over them. 03:07.969 --> 03:08.489 Oh, look at me. 03:08.529 --> 03:09.610 I've got so many things to do. 03:09.630 --> 03:12.712 I'm so busy that I'm pre-recording my show this week. 03:13.373 --> 03:16.275 Except of course, he would say in his photo Kensian way, 03:17.135 --> 03:21.058 And it kind of rubs it in people's faces that, oh, I'm too busy to do the show. 03:21.319 --> 03:23.520 Why are we pre-recording this show? 03:23.841 --> 03:24.521 Well, you tell them. 03:24.881 --> 03:25.922 Because I'm going away. 03:25.942 --> 03:27.023 Because you're going away. 03:27.043 --> 03:28.564 And what are you going to do? 03:28.684 --> 03:29.385 I'm working. 03:29.805 --> 03:32.427 I'm not going away on a holiday or anything, but I'm working. 03:32.447 --> 03:32.948 Who cares? 03:33.848 --> 03:36.891 It's all something that you are saying is more important than this show. 03:37.271 --> 03:37.711 But it is. 03:38.232 --> 03:40.013 Well, that's what you think. 03:40.053 --> 03:41.154 Nothing's more important than this show. 03:41.514 --> 03:42.254 You know what I'm going to do? 03:42.494 --> 03:46.455 I'm going to turn up and sit in the studio as this pre-record goes out. 03:46.915 --> 03:49.596 I won't be interacting with it in any way, but I'm going to make the effort. 03:49.636 --> 03:50.416 I'm going to turn up. 03:50.917 --> 03:51.697 You're better than me. 03:51.817 --> 04:00.059 While this show is going out, ladies and gentlemen, even though it was recorded over a week ago, I will actually be sat in the sixth music studio in central London. 04:00.566 --> 04:08.891 So listen, let's get on with the program now and have a bit more music and we'll return after this track by... Well, this is Airborne Toxic Event. 04:09.111 --> 04:10.792 Airborne Toxic Event! 04:10.952 --> 04:12.293 Are you sure that wasn't Deacon Blue? 04:12.873 --> 04:13.874 It could have been Deacon Blue. 04:13.894 --> 04:15.675 I think they popped Deacon Blue on by mistake. 04:16.295 --> 04:17.415 Which would be great, of course. 04:17.556 --> 04:17.716 Yeah. 04:18.436 --> 04:19.217 Love Deacon Blue. 04:19.297 --> 04:20.578 Who was the lead singer of Deacon Blue? 04:20.678 --> 04:21.278 Deacon Blue. 04:21.939 --> 04:22.719 Johnny Deacon Blue. 04:22.860 --> 04:23.480 Bluey Deacon. 04:24.761 --> 04:25.822 Joey Deacon Blue. 04:27.103 --> 04:28.984 That was sometime around midnight. 04:29.545 --> 04:32.187 And this is Adam and Joe here on BBC Six Music. 04:32.667 --> 04:34.389 Joe, you're probably a bit worried about... 04:35.209 --> 04:38.110 some of Anastasia's comments from before Christmas. 04:38.250 --> 04:41.930 Well, I've been disappointed because I love Anastasia's music. 04:42.090 --> 04:42.531 Of course. 04:42.871 --> 05:00.574 If anybody out there doesn't know who Anastasia is, she's the extraordinarily shouty blonde-haired lady who announced before Christmas that not only did she lie about her age, she's in her 40s, I think, or around 40, but she also has admitted that she hates music. 05:00.634 --> 05:01.174 Isn't that right? 05:01.554 --> 05:03.855 I don't know if she said she hated music, 05:04.635 --> 05:13.298 The quote from an interview she did with the Daily Mail, I think, was, this might sound unbelievable, but I really don't like music. 05:13.878 --> 05:18.800 And then she goes on to say, I like writing and performing, but I prefer silence to putting on a CD. 05:18.840 --> 05:22.921 Listening to music doesn't relax me, and I find it hard to think straight when it's on. 05:23.561 --> 05:30.023 Well, maybe she's just talking about the same thing that directors do about their own films, you know, and artists do. 05:30.303 --> 05:32.424 It's common for artists not to enjoy their own work. 05:33.064 --> 05:33.244 Right. 05:33.264 --> 05:38.671 For directors not to go and see their own films, like Woody Allen famously hasn't seen any of his films. 05:39.392 --> 05:47.141 You know, when you know the actual process that went into creating something, the act of consuming it is often less pleasurable because it just reminds you of the work. 05:47.201 --> 05:49.103 Yeah, but she's not just talking about her own music. 05:49.123 --> 05:50.124 She's talking about all music. 05:50.264 --> 05:50.765 All music. 05:50.925 --> 05:52.365 Well, again, she's a professional. 05:52.485 --> 05:58.527 All she can see, you know, if you're a builder, you look at a building and you think of all the effort that was put into putting it up. 05:58.607 --> 05:59.667 I'm just trying to defend her. 06:00.087 --> 06:01.447 I don't know why I'm trying to defend her. 06:01.487 --> 06:02.967 No, you're doing a very impressive job. 06:03.047 --> 06:05.908 She says, I have an iPod, but I can't recall the last time I used it. 06:06.288 --> 06:08.349 I've never bought a record in my life. 06:08.669 --> 06:11.249 I bought a Janet Jackson cassette once, but that's it. 06:11.689 --> 06:13.550 Music has never moved me. 06:13.810 --> 06:14.970 It doesn't do anything to me. 06:15.310 --> 06:17.710 To be honest, I find it irritating. 06:18.170 --> 06:18.531 No. 06:18.571 --> 06:20.331 And that's coming from anesthesia. 06:20.992 --> 06:23.221 Well, it makes a bit of sense, doesn't it? 06:23.321 --> 06:25.731 Because her music is awful. 06:27.472 --> 06:27.872 the thing. 06:27.892 --> 06:30.233 And you wouldn't want to listen to it and it's not relaxing. 06:30.273 --> 06:30.473 No. 06:30.573 --> 06:31.653 And you wouldn't want to buy it. 06:31.973 --> 06:34.374 But it's no disrespect to anyone who likes Anastasia out there. 06:34.394 --> 06:36.894 This is just my opinion, Joe Cornish. 06:36.934 --> 06:38.855 It's not the opinion of the BBC in any way. 06:39.295 --> 06:40.915 But I think it's awful. 06:42.456 --> 06:42.796 You know? 06:42.816 --> 06:45.776 I think it could be used as a military tool. 06:45.796 --> 06:48.377 For the sake of balance, I'd like to say that I very much enjoy it. 06:48.417 --> 06:51.358 And I start every morning grooving around to it. 06:51.838 --> 06:53.858 Over by the fridge I'll start grooving around to it. 06:53.878 --> 06:56.339 Can you name any Anastasia song? 06:56.539 --> 06:58.139 I like the way you, is that the way you pronounce it? 06:58.260 --> 06:58.820 Anesthesia. 06:58.880 --> 06:59.540 Anesthesia. 06:59.660 --> 07:00.720 Anesthesia, yeah. 07:01.621 --> 07:02.861 I'm all out of love! 07:03.001 --> 07:03.481 Isn't that one? 07:03.761 --> 07:05.442 I don't know, I couldn't name a single one, no. 07:06.042 --> 07:12.824 I can't name it, but I think that... I imagine one of her songs would sound like what you said, yeah. 07:13.044 --> 07:15.205 Although I'm all out of love, that's someone else's song, isn't it? 07:15.485 --> 07:16.205 I don't know. 07:16.405 --> 07:17.285 Wow! 07:17.325 --> 07:19.446 You gotta look at me now! 07:20.106 --> 07:21.426 Look at me, baby! 07:21.606 --> 07:22.807 Look at my legs! 07:23.922 --> 07:24.662 Is that one of them? 07:24.682 --> 07:25.743 Yeah, that is one of them. 07:25.843 --> 07:26.843 It's that short as well. 07:26.903 --> 07:27.083 Yeah. 07:27.443 --> 07:29.244 Sounds exactly like... Whoo! 07:29.384 --> 07:29.904 Hug me! 07:29.924 --> 07:31.625 Hug me, baby! 07:31.725 --> 07:32.686 Please, hug me! 07:32.706 --> 07:33.206 Oh, you know what? 07:33.246 --> 07:34.426 I think I hate music. 07:35.307 --> 07:37.528 I don't think I'm ever going to buy any more records ever again. 07:37.548 --> 07:38.568 Do you find it irritating? 07:38.688 --> 07:39.869 I find music irritating. 07:39.909 --> 07:40.569 By anesthesia. 07:40.709 --> 07:41.109 Yeah. 07:41.509 --> 07:44.370 And one of her ballads would be... Whoo! 07:45.811 --> 07:46.931 Hug me! 07:47.492 --> 07:48.692 Look at my thighs! 07:48.992 --> 07:50.293 Hug my thighs! 07:50.633 --> 07:51.934 She's obsessed with her legs. 07:51.994 --> 07:52.494 Why is that? 07:55.069 --> 07:56.210 Extraordinary noise. 07:56.450 --> 07:58.451 That's one of our biggest hits. 07:58.751 --> 07:59.211 Good stuff. 07:59.432 --> 08:00.172 Free Playtime? 08:00.512 --> 08:01.573 Some Anastasia? 08:01.833 --> 08:07.756 No, you know what I'm going to have is a lovely delicious portion of the Staple Singers. 08:07.876 --> 08:09.317 You're familiar with the Staple Singers, yes? 08:09.337 --> 08:09.837 Sure, yeah. 08:10.078 --> 08:13.079 They're one of the all-time legendary soul acts. 08:13.099 --> 08:13.960 They're an urban act. 08:14.200 --> 08:14.660 Right, right. 08:15.100 --> 08:20.703 And this is a track which was later sampled, or at least someone... Who was it that used the bass line for this? 08:20.864 --> 08:21.024 Do... 08:21.772 --> 08:29.519 Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo 08:35.200 --> 08:36.161 DJ Bobby Bubba boy. 08:36.201 --> 08:37.702 Bobby Bubba boy. 08:37.942 --> 08:38.342 His name. 08:38.402 --> 08:39.022 Bobby Bubba boy. 08:39.062 --> 08:39.663 That's the guy. 08:40.123 --> 08:40.303 Anyway. 08:40.323 --> 08:41.944 He's got all the facts for you here, listeners. 08:42.764 --> 08:43.164 Here it is. 08:43.225 --> 08:44.225 This is I'll Take You There. 08:44.365 --> 08:46.786 That was A Camp with Stronger Than Jesus. 08:46.866 --> 08:50.869 Now, of course, A Camp are a solo side project of Nina. 08:51.029 --> 08:52.870 Do you say Nina Pearson or Nina Persson? 08:52.910 --> 08:53.630 Persson. 08:53.730 --> 08:54.271 Persson. 08:54.391 --> 08:54.971 Persson. 08:55.011 --> 08:59.253 She's the Persson and she's also the lead vocalist for the cardigans, of course. 08:59.513 --> 09:00.634 You remember the cardigans, right? 09:01.975 --> 09:05.039 Of course. 09:05.139 --> 09:06.821 That's all they did. 09:07.642 --> 09:10.545 I hope the person that made up that guitar line made all the money. 09:10.926 --> 09:12.067 Yeah. 09:12.227 --> 09:12.507 Surely. 09:12.528 --> 09:13.549 It would have been Pearson though. 09:13.569 --> 09:14.189 She's genius. 09:14.229 --> 09:14.930 Pearson, yes. 09:15.231 --> 09:17.934 And now she's got not one but two bands. 09:18.334 --> 09:20.315 I think it's a bit weird when you suddenly have two bands. 09:20.335 --> 09:25.137 It must be weird for the other people in the band, because it's basically just saying, I don't really want to hang out with you anymore. 09:25.157 --> 09:27.218 I'm going to go off and make very similar sounding music. 09:27.238 --> 09:29.780 Like the Arctic Monkeys and His Side Project. 09:29.820 --> 09:30.400 Yeah, yeah. 09:30.460 --> 09:31.421 What are they called? 09:31.661 --> 09:32.241 God's Socks. 09:32.481 --> 09:33.522 The Lost Prophets. 09:33.782 --> 09:34.842 The Genie Puppets. 09:34.862 --> 09:35.563 The Holy Monkeys. 09:35.903 --> 09:37.664 The Last Shadow Puppets. 09:37.704 --> 09:37.984 Yeah. 09:38.464 --> 09:41.606 I know, but their music does sound a lot different to the Arctic Monkeys. 09:41.666 --> 09:46.108 Even so, it must make the rest of the original band feel very insecure and unloved. 09:46.648 --> 09:47.468 I would think so, yeah. 09:47.488 --> 09:48.709 You know what you and I should do? 09:48.909 --> 09:49.969 No. 09:50.109 --> 10:00.072 What we should do is run an illegal psychological therapy group for bands, because we have over our time on this radio show identified a couple of big problems for bands. 10:00.232 --> 10:00.432 Yeah. 10:00.612 --> 10:02.952 First of all, positioning in photos and album covers. 10:03.012 --> 10:03.172 Yeah. 10:03.452 --> 10:04.773 Does the lead singer stand in front? 10:04.793 --> 10:05.873 Does the drummer stand at the back? 10:05.913 --> 10:07.393 Does the drummer get anxious and insecure? 10:07.553 --> 10:07.693 Yeah. 10:07.814 --> 10:08.434 That's problem one. 10:08.754 --> 10:11.454 Problem two, member of band form solo project. 10:11.574 --> 10:12.175 Side project, yeah. 10:12.215 --> 10:13.295 Yeah, there must be a lot of 10:13.735 --> 10:21.057 guitarists, drummers, bassists and keyboardists in bands who have serious mental problems that they can't talk about because it's too uncool. 10:21.377 --> 10:24.618 Well, you and I could provide a kind of discussion space area. 10:24.718 --> 10:27.379 We could do it privately or we could do it on air. 10:27.499 --> 10:28.720 We're not certified in any way. 10:28.740 --> 10:30.700 That's why I'm saying it would be sort of backstreet. 10:31.100 --> 10:39.703 But if you are a bassist or a part of the rhythm section of a band, preferably a well-known band, 10:40.043 --> 10:41.364 You can call in anonymously. 10:41.404 --> 10:44.706 We can probably protect your voice, can't we, using vocoder technology? 10:44.726 --> 10:44.927 Yeah. 10:45.107 --> 10:47.028 Get in touch with our producer, Ben. 10:47.148 --> 10:47.669 Email him. 10:48.309 --> 10:53.993 And the email is Adamandjo.6musicatbbc.co.uk. 10:54.394 --> 10:55.975 Get in touch anonymously if you like. 10:56.415 --> 11:00.038 Tell us what specific problems you are having with the band and we will try and help you on air. 11:00.118 --> 11:00.838 We can sort it out. 11:00.858 --> 11:07.043 And the thing is, because we don't have any qualifications and we're not a legal service, we can use violence. 11:07.903 --> 11:12.028 and intimidation and hate campaigns to sort your problems out. 11:12.048 --> 11:16.073 That would be especially effective with a band like the Stereophonics where the lead singer is fairly diminutive. 11:16.473 --> 11:20.358 We could just go in there and sort all your problems out in one afternoon and just beat the guy up. 11:21.118 --> 11:22.380 And I would personally enjoy that. 11:22.500 --> 11:23.861 We'll try not to resort to that kind of thing. 11:23.881 --> 11:25.942 We'll try and do it through verbal therapy. 11:26.382 --> 11:29.505 But what a brilliant opportunity for all insecure members of rock groups. 11:29.545 --> 11:31.066 This is Adam and Jo on BBC6 Music. 11:31.486 --> 11:32.326 Here is Snow Patrol. 11:32.486 --> 11:34.328 This is Adam and Jo on BBC6 Music. 11:34.448 --> 11:35.809 It's 9.30 and time for the news. 11:36.009 --> 11:38.610 That was Morrissey with throwing my arms around Paris. 11:39.031 --> 11:42.593 Coincidentally enough, just before Christmas, I, Joe Cornish, went to Paris. 11:42.773 --> 11:43.934 Did you throw your arms around it? 11:44.234 --> 11:45.715 I tried to, but it was much too big. 11:46.095 --> 11:47.276 How long did you spend there? 11:47.376 --> 11:49.217 I was there for four days. 11:49.317 --> 11:50.338 How many people did you have with you? 11:50.498 --> 11:51.379 Three people. 11:51.399 --> 11:51.859 Did you have fun? 11:52.119 --> 11:55.021 Yes, but you know what the thing is about Paris? 11:55.081 --> 11:55.261 No. 11:55.541 --> 11:58.563 Is it's terribly expensive at the moment on account of Le Crunch. 11:58.804 --> 12:01.045 Le Crunch, the euro's more or less one for one, isn't it? 12:01.065 --> 12:02.606 It was terrible, an orange juice. 12:02.926 --> 12:04.187 Le Jus d'orange. 12:04.407 --> 12:07.970 It cost me four pounds in Zei Strand. 12:08.450 --> 12:10.171 Just for a glass of Le Jus d'orange. 12:10.191 --> 12:10.472 Yes, yes. 12:11.112 --> 12:12.533 And did they put ice in there as well? 12:12.993 --> 12:13.214 No. 12:13.234 --> 12:20.278 No, because you asked for no ice to get extra... Four of us went into a reasonably priced cafe for breakfast, came out 60 quid poorer. 12:20.599 --> 12:21.459 Oh, I know. 12:21.519 --> 12:22.080 It was terrible. 12:22.100 --> 12:23.120 It was quite limiting. 12:23.901 --> 12:27.003 The other thing about Paris is it's beautiful. 12:27.043 --> 12:27.423 I love it. 12:27.604 --> 12:29.225 I really love it, but it's quite filthy. 12:29.705 --> 12:29.885 Is it? 12:29.905 --> 12:30.565 Has it got filthy? 12:30.845 --> 12:31.685 It has a little wee cane. 12:31.705 --> 12:32.726 Has it always been quite filthy? 12:32.926 --> 12:33.746 Well, the metro. 12:33.806 --> 12:35.166 The metro is quite filthy. 12:35.226 --> 12:35.606 Wee, wee. 12:35.846 --> 12:37.306 We came out of L'Eura Star. 12:37.326 --> 12:37.947 It's full of wee, wee. 12:38.127 --> 12:39.007 Onto the metro. 12:39.647 --> 12:41.207 And Ilia un pouda human. 12:41.767 --> 12:42.027 No. 12:42.047 --> 12:42.687 Don L'Etano. 12:42.727 --> 12:43.027 Wee. 12:43.307 --> 12:46.808 Now, some people have asked me how I know it was le pou de human. 12:46.848 --> 12:47.528 Le pou pou ma. 12:47.628 --> 12:48.408 Le pou pou du ma. 12:48.448 --> 12:50.609 Le pou pou pou du ma. 12:51.189 --> 12:53.229 Le pou-dom. 12:53.809 --> 12:54.690 Le pou-dom. 12:55.150 --> 12:56.650 It was because of its sheer heft. 12:57.810 --> 13:01.293 There was no dog big enough who could deposit such a parcel on the floor. 13:02.613 --> 13:03.794 It was a human parcel. 13:04.335 --> 13:05.195 Oh my goodness. 13:05.275 --> 13:06.296 I know, it wasn't very nice. 13:06.396 --> 13:10.158 All Le Parisians were carrying on about their business trying to ignore Le Plop Dom. 13:10.358 --> 13:14.761 And if you can think in a Gillian-McHeath style, was it a healthy human, do you think? 13:14.861 --> 13:15.281 I didn't. 13:15.381 --> 13:16.442 My eyes didn't linger on it. 13:16.962 --> 13:17.903 It would have made me be sick. 13:18.624 --> 13:23.507 The other thing about Le Paris, it's a wonderful city, but Iliabocou de Homelas. 13:24.247 --> 13:26.288 We, we, same, massive problem. 13:26.609 --> 13:28.630 Same problem, massive. 13:29.210 --> 13:35.174 May, on the bright side, les homeles avèques les bouté du van exponcive. 13:36.155 --> 13:37.276 Part exponcive. 13:37.296 --> 13:38.357 They've often got champagne. 13:38.377 --> 13:38.417 No. 13:38.937 --> 13:40.178 Because it's cheaper over there. 13:40.518 --> 13:41.418 Is that really true? 13:41.678 --> 13:45.439 Yeah, wine and champagne and stuff is much, much cheaper in France than in Britain. 13:46.079 --> 13:51.401 So I couldn't help noticing that a lot of the les winos de France had very good quality booze. 13:51.421 --> 13:52.101 Excellent champagne. 13:52.481 --> 13:52.781 Yes. 13:53.321 --> 13:55.182 So, you know, you've got to look on the bright side. 13:55.702 --> 13:58.102 And were they sat around like chinking? 13:58.122 --> 14:00.683 They're not having it from glasses though, they're just drinking it from the bottle. 14:01.543 --> 14:19.643 uh drinking it from the bottle yes even though we walked down one street behind La Santa Pompidou the Pompidou center and there was a sort of a Christmas party for men of the street going on they'd found a doorway and they had a ghetto blaster and they were playing very very loud techno 14:21.545 --> 14:27.751 They had some bottles of vodka, there were three or four of them, a couple of ladies, and there was some wee around. 14:28.291 --> 14:30.433 But that's all right, there's wee in most West End clubs. 14:30.514 --> 14:33.897 I mean, you're just describing an average lad from me and my friends. 14:33.937 --> 14:36.299 Are you sure they weren't just regular chaps, not homeless people? 14:36.319 --> 14:37.820 No, but they were having a very good time. 14:37.840 --> 14:41.824 Apart from that wonderful city, Le Ende Fan. 14:42.305 --> 14:43.205 Oui, c'est le fan. 14:44.567 --> 14:49.294 This champagne is quite excellent, my friend! 14:53.442 --> 14:54.842 I think it was you, I saw. 14:55.963 --> 14:58.003 This is Adam and Jo on BBC Six Music. 14:58.243 --> 14:59.704 It's time for some more music. 15:00.044 --> 15:02.104 This is Fleet Foxes with Mykonos. 15:02.264 --> 15:03.845 That was Fleet Foxes with Mykonos. 15:03.865 --> 15:06.665 This is Adam and Jo here on BBC Six Music. 15:06.785 --> 15:12.127 We'd just like to remind you that this is a pre-recorded programme, listeners, and that's no disrespect to you. 15:12.587 --> 15:17.648 It was unavoidable circumstances that meant we had to pre-record this show over a week ago now. 15:18.448 --> 15:21.612 But, you know, the intervening week has been more or less meaningless. 15:21.652 --> 15:29.280 The fact is that we're together now and bonded by space and time and the use of recording technology. 15:29.600 --> 15:33.484 Fleet Foxes, the band we just heard, have a very distinctive sound, don't they? 15:34.225 --> 15:37.669 Yeah, something inside me wants to do a Fleet Fox's song wars. 15:38.270 --> 15:39.110 Oh, quite difficult. 15:39.150 --> 15:39.651 Do you think? 15:40.011 --> 15:47.359 Well, I know that maybe coral folk thing, all that layered harmony and echoes, something tells me it might be easy. 15:47.459 --> 15:48.681 Or do you think I'm wrong? 15:48.961 --> 15:49.882 Maybe you're right. 15:49.982 --> 15:51.584 Well, there is a lot of stuff that sounds like that. 15:51.684 --> 15:52.124 There is. 15:52.164 --> 15:53.306 It's a whole school of music. 15:53.346 --> 15:53.986 What would you call it? 15:54.006 --> 15:54.507 New folk? 15:55.709 --> 15:57.491 Yeah, well it's almost psychedelic, isn't it? 15:57.551 --> 16:00.614 I think of that because they put so much reverb on there. 16:01.275 --> 16:03.357 Because there's Bon Iver, who sounds like that. 16:03.457 --> 16:04.618 There's Fleet Foxes. 16:05.239 --> 16:10.244 There's My Morning Jacket, who occasionally sound like that, although not exclusively. 16:10.765 --> 16:13.608 Who was the band that did Trials of Van Ocupanther? 16:14.535 --> 16:14.935 Midlake. 16:15.235 --> 16:16.636 They sound a bit like that as well. 16:17.176 --> 16:21.017 Well, that's an idea to pop in the basket for a potential song wars in the future. 16:21.117 --> 16:25.938 It's like Crosby stills a Nash with extra reverb and a bit of psychedelic. 16:26.178 --> 16:27.259 Could be fun, yeah. 16:27.819 --> 16:29.719 We've got a lot of ideas backed up though, haven't we? 16:29.739 --> 16:32.220 We've got the Icelandic idea. 16:32.640 --> 16:33.260 Hey, you know what? 16:33.320 --> 16:35.381 I wouldn't mind doing that one because... Because of the lady. 16:35.401 --> 16:36.402 Because of the lady that you met. 16:36.422 --> 16:37.182 A beautiful model. 16:37.222 --> 16:48.328 So a beautiful model, listeners, emailed us a couple of weeks ago encouraging us to do Icelandic song wars because she was from Iceland and she said, by the way, if nothing, that we could come and hang out with her in Iceland. 16:48.628 --> 16:50.389 And she says, I'm a gorgeous... Did she say that? 16:50.649 --> 16:52.370 Yeah, she said come... Did she invite us there? 16:52.490 --> 16:54.251 Well, no, she said come and visit or something. 16:54.271 --> 16:54.531 Right. 16:54.551 --> 16:55.491 Or let's go to Iceland. 16:55.511 --> 16:56.652 I don't know, but it sounded good. 16:57.352 --> 17:01.574 because she said, uh, I'm a gorgeous model living in London and I'm glamorous or something. 17:01.634 --> 17:05.236 So it sounded like a joke, but when we checked out her website, it was true. 17:06.356 --> 17:10.078 I imagine her like, uh, that woman in the Narnia films. 17:10.198 --> 17:11.078 Was it Kate Blanchard? 17:11.118 --> 17:12.279 It's usually Kate Blanchard. 17:12.399 --> 17:13.380 Or was it Tilda Swinton? 17:13.400 --> 17:15.721 It was always one or the other in films these days. 17:15.881 --> 17:16.441 I see ladies. 17:16.641 --> 17:27.127 Yeah, no, but she's more beautiful than Tilda, or you know, more conventionally beautiful, but I imagine her in a sort of a nice palace with a chariot carved out of ice and maybe some gnomes. 17:27.627 --> 17:32.990 I would happily be her gnome with some French fancies or fondant, you know, Turkish delight on a tray. 17:33.010 --> 17:35.652 Hello, mistress! 17:35.832 --> 17:36.893 What would you like me to do? 17:36.913 --> 17:37.853 Are you okay? 17:37.933 --> 17:38.974 I could do that, no problem. 17:39.734 --> 17:57.349 more rice for you for your rice yeah rice for your drink ice oh sorry i thought you're putting rice in her drink no i do not rice you're probably sick of ice living in a nice palace my lady i'll get you some rice for your drink the fun thing about it is it expands after a while 17:58.970 --> 17:59.811 That's how I would talk. 18:00.631 --> 18:04.494 We've got to go there and see whether this kind of thing comes true, see whether it is true. 18:05.114 --> 18:06.395 I've got a shameful admission for you. 18:06.515 --> 18:07.776 You never do shameful admissions. 18:07.816 --> 18:12.399 I'm always the one that reveals parts of my life that are disgraceful and shameful. 18:12.699 --> 18:17.723 Anyway, I told my wife all about the model lady that emailed us, right? 18:18.543 --> 18:24.365 I was trying to analyze why I did it afterwards, because I couldn't figure out exactly what I was trying to do, but I guess I was trying to make her jealous. 18:24.425 --> 18:26.506 You were preparing the ground for the affair. 18:26.926 --> 18:27.287 Right. 18:27.547 --> 18:27.947 Did you think? 18:27.967 --> 18:28.947 I don't know. 18:29.007 --> 18:29.748 Tell me what you said. 18:30.308 --> 18:36.430 I said, oh, this woman emailed us on the show and she was boasting about being a glamorous model. 18:36.470 --> 18:37.471 Anyway, turns out she is. 18:39.371 --> 18:42.372 And then I showed her the web page on the internet. 18:42.412 --> 18:44.013 I said, yeah, she's pretty beautiful, isn't she? 18:44.633 --> 18:45.133 She emailed us. 18:45.173 --> 18:46.454 She says she really loves our show. 18:47.454 --> 18:49.135 And how do you think my wife responded? 18:49.435 --> 18:49.795 Slaps. 18:50.595 --> 18:54.717 No actual physical slaps, but... A Marge Simpson-style grumble? 18:54.997 --> 18:57.998 No, she sort of laughed at me like I was the most pathetic person in the world. 18:58.018 --> 18:59.838 I don't know why that could have been. 19:01.699 --> 19:02.460 Well, what's the plan? 19:02.500 --> 19:05.262 What's our next move with the Icelandic ice maiden? 19:05.442 --> 19:09.186 Well, you would think that she almost certainly is involved with some kind of man. 19:10.006 --> 19:12.368 Yeah, but that can be dealt with. 19:12.628 --> 19:13.649 Or a woman or whatever. 19:13.729 --> 19:15.531 She's probably got a relationship... Plus there's two of us. 19:15.711 --> 19:16.592 We're double any man. 19:16.772 --> 19:17.352 Exactly. 19:18.153 --> 19:21.756 So I guess hers is the next move, don't you think? 19:22.677 --> 19:23.718 The bulls in her court? 19:23.778 --> 19:23.978 Yeah. 19:25.339 --> 19:25.660 Is it? 19:25.760 --> 19:25.980 What? 19:26.300 --> 19:29.041 Well, I've prepared the groundwork with my wife, everything's fine. 19:29.061 --> 19:30.302 Right. 19:31.462 --> 19:34.464 Which is like the sort of adult visit to Lapland for you. 19:34.964 --> 19:35.084 Yeah. 19:35.124 --> 19:36.085 Like a child visiting Santa Claus. 19:36.105 --> 19:41.227 I guess what I'm proposing is that we go and we live with her in an ice house in Iceland. 19:41.507 --> 19:41.747 Right. 19:41.827 --> 19:43.548 And I would be her known. 19:43.568 --> 19:47.750 Well, listen, I think the first thing we'd have to do is satisfy her request to do an Icelandic song wars. 19:47.810 --> 19:48.210 True, isn't it? 19:48.570 --> 19:52.172 And then if we can get her on the phone to judge the songs and we'll take it from there. 19:52.352 --> 19:52.532 Yeah. 19:52.952 --> 19:53.213 You know? 19:54.453 --> 19:58.675 on the most positive thing that could happen is you leave your wife and children and shack up with her. 19:59.496 --> 20:00.256 You know, the worst. 20:00.276 --> 20:02.317 When you put it like that, it doesn't sound so positive. 20:02.477 --> 20:04.438 The worst that could happen is nothing happens. 20:04.678 --> 20:04.838 Yeah. 20:05.198 --> 20:05.458 OK. 20:05.998 --> 20:07.259 So I think we should do that. 20:07.719 --> 20:09.400 This is Adam and Joel on BBC Six Music. 20:09.700 --> 20:11.221 It's time for some more music. 20:11.641 --> 20:13.462 This is a free choice by me. 20:13.502 --> 20:14.062 It's a band. 20:14.122 --> 20:15.483 You know a lot about this band, Adam. 20:15.543 --> 20:16.263 Foster Silvers. 20:16.283 --> 20:19.605 They're a kind of knockoff Jackson Five. 20:20.425 --> 20:20.525 Oh. 20:20.605 --> 20:21.746 From the early 70s? 20:22.187 --> 20:22.767 No, you know what? 20:23.007 --> 20:24.969 You played me some of their stuff and it's amazing. 20:25.009 --> 20:28.632 But I've since gone out and tried to find one of their albums without success. 20:28.692 --> 20:29.272 I wonder what it's like. 20:29.292 --> 20:34.997 I think I'm right in saying that there are sort of cash-in Jackson 5 that were around the same time when ABC was in the top of the charts. 20:35.477 --> 20:37.579 Other producers tried to replicate its success. 20:37.939 --> 20:40.041 And this is a band that was formed to try and do that. 20:40.761 --> 20:42.503 And this is a great track by Foster Silvers. 20:42.523 --> 20:43.343 It's called Mr. Meena. 20:43.463 --> 20:45.505 That was Foster Silvers with Mr. Meena. 20:45.565 --> 20:46.766 That is amazing, that song. 20:46.966 --> 20:47.606 It's a good one. 20:47.647 --> 20:52.650 And while we were playing that track, we've looked on something called Google. 20:53.110 --> 20:53.370 Right. 20:53.390 --> 20:54.751 Which is an internet program. 20:54.951 --> 20:55.432 Funny name. 20:55.492 --> 20:57.913 And found out some information about Foster Silvers. 20:58.234 --> 20:59.254 Foster Silvers. 20:59.274 --> 20:59.955 Foster Silvers. 21:00.495 --> 21:03.917 Foster Emerson Silvers was born on the 25th of February in 1962. 21:05.078 --> 21:05.919 He's not a band. 21:06.259 --> 21:11.723 He's a guy and he had a top 10 hit with Misdemina, which has since become a rare crew classic. 21:12.103 --> 21:16.786 It was written by his brother Leon Silvers III and produced by Jerry Peters. 21:18.107 --> 21:20.990 There's a picture of him looking a lot like a young Michael Jackson as well. 21:21.030 --> 21:26.695 He was later to sing the lead vocals on the family group songs Boogie Fever and Cotton Candy. 21:26.715 --> 21:30.839 He also co-wrote and produced Janet Jackson's song Come Give Your Love To Me. 21:30.859 --> 21:33.241 Ooh, I don't know the song but I bet it's good. 21:33.301 --> 21:34.302 Wow, look at that. 21:34.362 --> 21:36.884 So he's very successful. 21:37.825 --> 21:38.486 Wow, look at that. 21:38.526 --> 21:39.767 I'm just reading this stuff. 21:39.807 --> 21:43.289 Now, if you're psychic, you'll be able to pick up on what I'm reading. 21:43.309 --> 21:46.992 If you're not, then this won't be very interesting. 21:47.993 --> 21:48.754 Who would have thought? 21:50.415 --> 21:50.815 Wow. 21:51.556 --> 21:52.116 I never knew. 21:52.216 --> 21:54.418 Anything darker there all sounds fun, the stuff you're reading. 21:54.458 --> 21:58.221 No, he's had a terrific time and he's a big success and he's not obscure at all. 21:58.581 --> 21:59.082 Jolly good. 21:59.222 --> 22:01.404 He's less obscure than us, if such a thing is possible. 22:01.684 --> 22:03.806 I've got a question for you, Joe Cornish. 22:04.886 --> 22:10.167 And this is something I don't want you to go into too much detail about, but just genuinely curious. 22:10.548 --> 22:16.429 You know when people say, pull your finger out, where are they asking you to pull your finger out from? 22:17.829 --> 22:21.350 Is it from your behind or from somewhere else? 22:21.410 --> 22:24.571 I think pull your thumb out is your behind, right? 22:24.711 --> 22:25.611 Isn't that the expression? 22:25.631 --> 22:27.552 I never heard pull your thumb out. 22:27.572 --> 22:28.192 You look very worried. 22:29.012 --> 22:31.713 You've got your thumb in your... Oh, yes, yes, yes. 22:32.173 --> 22:35.395 That's... I'm trying to think of expressions to do with digits and bottoms. 22:35.435 --> 22:36.095 Right, right, right. 22:36.115 --> 22:37.675 That was the one that sprung to mind. 22:37.715 --> 22:38.396 Pull your finger out. 22:38.416 --> 22:39.996 You're looking for the origin of that phrase. 22:40.176 --> 22:40.977 Is that pull it out? 22:41.557 --> 22:46.879 Because there's the story about the guy with the... Yeah, there's the story with the guy... The boy with his finger in the dyke. 22:46.919 --> 22:47.479 In the dyke. 22:47.559 --> 22:49.340 Yeah, but that finger's an important finger. 22:50.060 --> 22:52.402 If he didn't have his finger in the dike, the dike would burst. 22:52.442 --> 22:54.143 Exactly, so you don't want him to pull his finger out. 22:54.163 --> 22:55.304 No, don't pull your finger out. 22:55.324 --> 22:56.745 For God's sake, don't pull your finger out. 22:56.805 --> 22:59.707 In fact, don't use that phrase around, that boy or that dike. 22:59.927 --> 23:02.408 No, don't give him any ideas, otherwise it's going to be a massive flood. 23:02.568 --> 23:08.072 But when it comes to pulling your finger out, I think it could mean sucking your thumb. 23:09.133 --> 23:09.533 Really? 23:09.633 --> 23:10.894 Stop being babish, I'm guessing. 23:10.974 --> 23:11.274 I don't know. 23:11.294 --> 23:12.115 I've got no idea. 23:12.175 --> 23:12.855 What's your guess? 23:13.536 --> 23:14.356 I've got no idea. 23:14.376 --> 23:17.819 I assumed, scatologically, that it was up your bottom. 23:17.839 --> 23:19.800 What about pull your socks up? 23:20.660 --> 23:20.980 Yeah. 23:21.201 --> 23:24.162 I mean, when has the lower sock ever been a problem? 23:24.722 --> 23:27.624 Well, sometimes if you're wearing very baggy socks, that can be a massive problem. 23:27.684 --> 23:27.844 Right. 23:27.864 --> 23:28.484 You trip over them. 23:28.624 --> 23:29.564 You trip over them. 23:29.584 --> 23:30.545 Pull your finger out. 23:30.845 --> 23:31.866 But where is the finger? 23:31.906 --> 23:33.146 That's what I'm saying. 23:33.306 --> 23:36.208 Maybe it's up the bottom of the person who's saying it to you. 23:38.609 --> 23:40.069 Pull your finger out! 23:40.830 --> 23:41.230 Oh, sorry. 23:42.643 --> 23:43.004 Thank you. 23:43.024 --> 23:43.764 I'm so sorry. 23:43.784 --> 23:45.807 I didn't realise it was there. 23:45.907 --> 23:46.707 I had no idea. 23:46.728 --> 23:47.648 I had no idea. 23:47.669 --> 23:49.430 I had no idea my finger. 23:49.490 --> 23:50.231 I'm so sorry. 23:50.632 --> 23:51.873 I'm Adam, by the way. 23:51.893 --> 23:54.796 Offers hand to shake. 23:55.677 --> 23:56.077 That's it. 23:56.117 --> 23:58.640 Well, I'm glad we've got to the bottom of that one. 23:59.021 --> 23:59.621 Excellent. 23:59.861 --> 24:00.242 Okay. 24:00.302 --> 24:01.243 Shall we have some more music? 24:01.603 --> 24:05.405 Yeah, this is Sergio Mendez and it's a session track. 24:05.765 --> 24:06.926 It's called Matkinada. 24:07.046 --> 24:08.446 Radiohead with karma please from 1997. 24:08.666 --> 24:11.328 This is Adam and Jo on BBC6 Music. 24:11.368 --> 24:14.309 Welcome to the second hour of this specially pre-recorded show. 24:14.709 --> 24:17.691 When I say specially, I mean that we bother to do it. 24:18.551 --> 24:31.446 Rather than get someone to stand in yeah, thank you for listening And you know don't approach this show in any different way from a live show just because it's pre-recorded Two weeks ago hmm now one week ago one week ago. 24:31.566 --> 24:34.249 That's if you're listening on Saturday It was recorded one week ago. 24:34.510 --> 24:38.114 Yeah, if you're listening during the week it might have been a little more than that 24:38.399 --> 24:43.841 Now we've had an email here from a gentleman called Gavin Moreis, M-O-R-A-I-S. 24:44.161 --> 24:44.481 He says, 24:55.265 --> 24:55.365 Ah. 25:11.636 --> 25:21.503 Are you aware of the many microcosmic climates of fear I suspect you're currently creating around yourselves wherever you and six listeners find yourselves? 25:21.643 --> 25:26.666 I think he means whenever you and six listeners find yourself in the same vicinity. 25:26.926 --> 25:28.187 Does he mean we have six listeners? 25:28.547 --> 25:30.708 Does he mean the listeners to six? 25:30.828 --> 25:34.090 I think he means the listeners to six, although the two could be interchangeable. 25:34.450 --> 25:40.933 I was scared I might be ignored, or worse still, find myself on the receiving end of a witheringly contemptuous look. 25:41.273 --> 25:42.914 Yours ashamedly, Gavin. 25:43.174 --> 25:47.996 Now, you usually respond correctly to Stephen shouts in public spaces. 25:48.397 --> 25:51.498 It's me who gets in a bad mood and freezes people out. 25:51.778 --> 25:57.601 I got a complaint one time that I did not return a bit of Stephenage fast enough. 25:58.101 --> 25:59.262 But that's the one time, I think. 25:59.322 --> 26:03.084 I've always given a just coming back to people who've shouted Stephen at me. 26:03.104 --> 26:08.887 I mean, it hasn't happened more than three times, but I would have easily given him a just coming back. 26:09.228 --> 26:16.012 In fact, I think I know the guy who it was because he did give me a funny look when I was walking purposefully with my hot chocolate that day. 26:16.172 --> 26:17.553 And what was going through your head? 26:17.633 --> 26:21.015 I think it would be interesting for Gavin to know what was going through your head at that point. 26:21.155 --> 26:23.056 Well, I know what was going through Gavin's head now. 26:23.656 --> 26:24.676 I was a little bit flustered. 26:24.696 --> 26:26.277 I think I had my headphones in as well. 26:26.317 --> 26:31.158 I was listening to David Sedaris' audiobook and I was really enjoying it and giggling. 26:31.898 --> 26:41.061 And as I was striding through, I saw this guy and he was giving me a funny little look and I was half thinking about taking my headphones out and preparing myself for a Steven. 26:41.941 --> 26:43.602 But then I just thought, now I'm insane. 26:43.902 --> 26:44.682 I'm just imagining it. 26:45.422 --> 26:51.570 Because, you know, from my point of view, what's the world gonna look like if I think everyone's just about to say Stephen to me at any point? 26:52.211 --> 26:53.052 I would be insane. 26:53.453 --> 26:55.495 It would be difficult to go about your daily business. 26:55.776 --> 26:55.956 Yeah. 26:57.139 --> 27:00.242 So my message would be, don't worry about it. 27:00.282 --> 27:11.651 Unless I'm actually crying, unless I'm with my wife and she's arguing with me, unless I've just fallen over and broken one of my limbs, it's not a problem. 27:11.911 --> 27:15.994 But would you prefer, for instance, for Gavin to shout, Stephen, at you? 27:16.354 --> 27:22.199 Or to gently clasp your arm and say, excuse me, hello, I'm a fan of your show. 27:22.960 --> 27:25.101 I'd prefer it if you gently clasped my buttocks. 27:26.062 --> 27:26.862 No, I don't mind. 27:26.922 --> 27:27.723 Either one is fine. 27:27.763 --> 27:28.343 What about you? 27:28.823 --> 27:30.804 I'd like the talking one. 27:30.984 --> 27:31.224 Yeah. 27:32.304 --> 27:34.605 Rather than the shouting of the catchphrase. 27:36.126 --> 27:48.010 Incidentally, if you're a first-time listener, this whole thing, Stephen, is something that some of the people that listen to this program shout to each other in public spaces to identify other people that listen to the program, if that makes sense. 27:48.351 --> 27:48.911 You know what I mean? 27:48.931 --> 27:54.273 The theory being that if you're around and you want to see if anyone else listens to this program, you just go, Stephen! 27:54.713 --> 27:55.554 We didn't invent it. 27:55.594 --> 27:57.075 It was an invention of our listeners. 27:57.135 --> 27:57.415 Yeah. 27:57.775 --> 28:00.157 And then if they do listen, they go, just coming. 28:00.657 --> 28:01.258 And there you go. 28:01.298 --> 28:01.798 You're linked. 28:02.799 --> 28:09.644 Anyway, interesting stuff going on there on the 430 from London to Norwich between Adam and Gavin. 28:09.664 --> 28:10.985 Thank you for emailing in, Gavin. 28:11.305 --> 28:23.794 If anyone else has seen Adam in the street and felt, you know, nervous or angry or just can feel threatened, then do let us know and we'll take care of it. 28:24.514 --> 28:25.114 Thank you very much. 28:25.134 --> 28:26.495 It was horrible hot chocolate, by the way. 28:26.915 --> 28:27.995 It was much too hot. 28:28.355 --> 28:30.376 It was one of those ones that had a little cap on it. 28:30.796 --> 28:32.637 Hot, hot, hot, hot chocolate. 28:32.897 --> 28:34.037 That's from the Polar Express. 28:34.197 --> 28:36.078 But it wasn't tasty enough. 28:36.158 --> 28:37.398 All it was was just the heat. 28:37.538 --> 28:38.518 That's all I was getting from it. 28:38.538 --> 28:39.019 You know what I mean? 28:39.319 --> 28:42.240 Had to wait for about 45 minutes before it was hot enough to actually drink. 28:42.260 --> 28:45.301 And by that time, it tasted of nothing except hot water. 28:45.681 --> 28:46.601 It was very disappointing. 28:46.621 --> 28:49.542 I would have much preferred an enjoyable conversation with Gavin. 28:49.842 --> 28:50.342 But there you go. 28:50.442 --> 28:51.102 The Gav Man. 28:51.182 --> 28:52.203 Missed the opportunity there. 28:52.363 --> 28:52.763 Next time. 28:53.243 --> 28:53.983 Here's some more music. 28:54.444 --> 28:56.765 It's Eagles of Death Metal with Wannabe in LA. 28:56.825 --> 28:58.686 Hey, this is Adam and Joel on BBC Six Music. 28:58.986 --> 29:00.026 Hey, how you doing? 29:00.086 --> 29:00.707 I'm good, man. 29:00.927 --> 29:06.029 So do you remember last week, Adam, you said something about an advert you'd seen on the telly. 29:06.069 --> 29:07.290 Well, this would be two weeks ago. 29:07.510 --> 29:08.090 That's correct. 29:08.150 --> 29:11.552 Two weeks ago, Adam was talking about an advert he'd seen on the telly. 29:11.572 --> 29:13.633 Do we have a clip of it there, Ben? 29:13.673 --> 29:14.673 Let's hear what Adam said. 29:14.993 --> 29:20.456 Have you seen on television the teaching advert where the boy comes into the classroom 29:21.056 --> 29:29.065 And he makes some finger gestures, taunting the teacher, who incidentally appears to be maybe a year older than the child that's coming in. 29:29.645 --> 29:35.591 But this teenage boy is kind of taunting the teacher, sort of going, you know, 2-1 or whatever, I don't know, maybe referring to some sports event. 29:36.312 --> 29:38.294 The teacher goes, alright, sit down. 29:38.934 --> 29:45.300 And then it says, teaching, you can earn up to 35k a year or whatever it is, and the banter's not bad either. 29:45.740 --> 29:48.563 His haircut is even more daft than the student that's coming in. 29:48.603 --> 29:49.203 Yeah, that's alright. 29:49.724 --> 29:50.404 Alright, sit down. 29:50.444 --> 29:52.446 You see, now you are starting to sound like your dad. 29:52.526 --> 29:53.687 What's he gonna be teaching that guy? 29:53.707 --> 29:55.669 You'll be complaining about how young policemen look next. 29:56.329 --> 29:57.309 Classic stuff. 29:57.830 --> 29:59.990 Classic stuff from the Adam and Jo radio show. 30:00.691 --> 30:05.132 Little did you know, Adam, that a few days ago we received the following email. 30:05.172 --> 30:05.933 Hello Adam and Jo. 30:06.233 --> 30:09.394 Turns out I'm the teacher with the daft hair off that advert. 30:09.794 --> 30:13.515 I teach maths and economics at Rickmansworth School near Watford, Hertfordshire. 30:14.015 --> 30:19.037 Colleagues, mates, students and I have thoroughly enjoyed my ripping on last Saturday's radio show. 30:19.117 --> 30:20.438 Thanks, Jo, for sticking up for me. 30:21.178 --> 30:27.745 You're the first to comment on my resemblance to Ricky Wilson from the Kaiser Chiefs, but I'm afraid I'm nearly immune to insults about my hair. 30:28.205 --> 30:32.529 Indeed, if the advert was filmed a year earlier, I would have had a full-blown mullet. 30:33.370 --> 30:37.995 Well, listen, I think it's important, Adam, for you to realise that, you know, this show isn't an island. 30:38.275 --> 30:39.917 Is this still part of his email? 30:39.957 --> 30:40.678 No, this is me now. 30:41.835 --> 30:43.356 We're not doing this show in isolation. 30:43.376 --> 30:45.797 There are people out there, you know, with feelings. 30:45.857 --> 30:46.517 Wait a second. 30:46.978 --> 30:56.783 And if you're rude about someone's hair, you know, that person with the hair out there might, you know, have a heart, might be vulnerable and sensitive. 30:56.923 --> 30:58.724 That would be a nice song as well. 30:58.844 --> 30:59.304 Do you think? 30:59.324 --> 31:03.106 That person with the hair out there might have a... Stuart. 31:03.186 --> 31:04.266 All right, Adam. 31:04.526 --> 31:05.367 Wait, hang on. 31:05.387 --> 31:07.988 This is all getting a little bit siller. 31:08.028 --> 31:09.169 Surprise, surprise here. 31:09.189 --> 31:11.250 Stuart, how are you doing? 31:11.790 --> 31:12.351 Pretty good. 31:12.751 --> 31:13.292 Pretty good. 31:13.332 --> 31:17.497 Now we should just make it clear that Stuart, you are the teacher from the advert we were talking about. 31:17.537 --> 31:28.529 You're a real teacher and you were asked to appear in the advert and I think a colleague of yours heard the show right and sort of mentioned that Adam was being a little bit disparaging about your Barnet. 31:29.053 --> 31:29.813 Yeah, that's right. 31:29.833 --> 31:34.254 It's our husband of a fellow teacher at my school who subscribes to the podcast. 31:34.574 --> 31:42.716 And I was called over early one morning a couple of days ago and played the entire two minutes of my personal ripping. 31:43.316 --> 31:44.616 I really enjoyed it. 31:44.636 --> 31:46.656 Well, listen, Stuart, I need to find out some facts. 31:46.676 --> 31:48.097 This is amazing to have you on the line. 31:48.137 --> 31:50.357 Thank you very much for allowing us to speak to you. 31:50.817 --> 31:52.197 But what do you teach? 31:52.437 --> 31:55.078 Is it actually France Ferdinand studies? 31:56.696 --> 31:57.037 No, no. 31:57.237 --> 32:03.940 Unfortunately, yet, France Ferdinand Studies doesn't really come into either the maths curriculum or economics at A level. 32:04.240 --> 32:05.261 Those are the subjects I teach. 32:05.621 --> 32:08.503 Tends to be a little bit more serious than France Ferdinand Studies. 32:08.643 --> 32:09.923 Well, that's a matter of opinion. 32:10.423 --> 32:13.185 But also, how old are you, Stuart, if you don't mind me asking? 32:13.205 --> 32:16.487 Because on the ad, you seem to be, I would say, 17 and a half. 32:17.691 --> 32:18.191 I'm 24. 32:18.371 --> 32:19.952 I'm 24 years old. 32:20.052 --> 32:22.634 I filmed it last year, so I would have been 23 then. 32:22.814 --> 32:25.576 I'm amazed that they used real teachers. 32:25.716 --> 32:36.362 I just assumed it would be an actor, and I was only being, you know, offhand about the whole thing because I thought it was a bit strange of the people that made the ad to cast an actor who was so young. 32:36.782 --> 32:38.003 But you are a real teacher. 32:38.183 --> 32:39.524 Yeah, yeah, yeah, real teacher. 32:39.764 --> 32:41.124 And, yeah, not that young. 32:41.145 --> 32:41.745 To be honest. 32:42.526 --> 32:45.969 To be honest, I'm a little, it's cut me up a little bit. 32:46.149 --> 32:49.192 My girlfriend, my girlfriend, Tara, actually cuts my hair. 32:49.212 --> 32:56.820 And so kind of the public humiliation of her hairdressing skills is it's not gone down well at home, to be honest, I'm struggling a little bit. 32:56.960 --> 32:59.262 Do you have a message for Adam Stewart? 32:59.282 --> 33:04.347 Because I think this is important for him to realise the repercussions of some of the things he says, don't you? 33:04.938 --> 33:06.038 Well, yeah, I do, actually. 33:06.118 --> 33:06.379 I do. 33:06.439 --> 33:11.280 And, you know, I think this is, you know, this is entirely incentive comments in the area. 33:11.741 --> 33:16.482 Being described as uninspirational on national radios, I mean, I've lost all control of my classes. 33:16.522 --> 33:17.763 They're running rings around me now. 33:18.523 --> 33:19.363 It's a nightmare. 33:19.523 --> 33:20.024 It's a nightmare. 33:20.044 --> 33:20.884 Do you know what, Stuart? 33:21.544 --> 33:22.465 I'm serious about this. 33:22.665 --> 33:25.686 I would never have said those things if I'd known you were a real teacher. 33:26.046 --> 33:26.786 I'm amazed. 33:27.166 --> 33:33.509 I can't believe that they would choose a real... The whole world is crumbling because I just assumed that it was all fake. 33:35.430 --> 33:39.654 And also the lad in the advert, yeah, real pupils. 33:39.714 --> 33:40.775 Was he one of your pupils? 33:41.155 --> 33:42.456 Yeah, yeah, one of my pupils, yeah. 33:42.636 --> 33:43.297 Is that true? 33:43.337 --> 33:44.939 Genuinely, an Arsenal supporter. 33:45.059 --> 33:45.379 No. 33:45.659 --> 33:47.181 We had a bit of football banter, yeah. 33:47.701 --> 33:48.041 Wow. 33:48.241 --> 33:49.042 So, wait a second. 33:49.423 --> 33:50.664 All these adverts, right? 33:51.604 --> 33:53.006 Is this what you're telling me? 33:53.026 --> 33:53.706 They're all real? 33:53.726 --> 33:55.668 Does that mean the Davina McCool ones are real? 33:55.688 --> 33:57.390 Are those real conversations with her mum? 33:57.930 --> 33:59.231 Yeah, I don't think that's real. 33:59.891 --> 34:03.513 Unfortunately, yeah, but no, I mean, indeed, the advert was entirely improvised. 34:03.594 --> 34:07.456 So yeah, credit to my acting skills, obviously. 34:07.776 --> 34:17.102 Listen, finally, Stuart, is there anything we can say or do to put this right to mend your relationship with your girlfriend, to mend your integrity with your students? 34:19.003 --> 34:27.128 Well, I mean, ideally, I'd kind of like to see Adam just pop over to school and maybe teach a couple of my lessons and to see what it's like. 34:27.981 --> 34:29.982 I think I'll settle for a public apology. 34:30.162 --> 34:31.342 I think I'll settle for that. 34:31.362 --> 34:34.624 Well, Stuart, I unreservedly apologize. 34:34.684 --> 34:38.846 You are one of the finest teachers we have in the educational system today. 34:39.306 --> 34:40.606 Your haircut is wicked. 34:40.646 --> 34:42.627 Your students obviously think a great deal of you. 34:42.667 --> 34:46.149 You are the kind of person that I wish I'd been taught by in the olden days. 34:46.609 --> 34:53.732 If I had, I probably would not have such a massive loathing for the sciences and mathematics, which has crippled me in my life. 34:54.634 --> 34:58.169 And I wish you all the best and thank you very much for talking to us. 34:58.783 --> 34:59.243 Excellent. 34:59.364 --> 35:00.164 Thank you very much. 35:00.605 --> 35:02.626 I wholeheartedly accept your apology. 35:02.846 --> 35:03.187 Thank you. 35:03.287 --> 35:04.207 Thank God that's over. 35:04.268 --> 35:05.529 Stuart, thanks for talking to us. 35:05.709 --> 35:06.329 No problem. 35:06.389 --> 35:06.850 Cheers, guys. 35:06.950 --> 35:07.610 And best of luck. 35:07.650 --> 35:07.970 Bye. 35:07.990 --> 35:08.591 Cheerio. 35:08.711 --> 35:10.112 That was the Velvet Underground. 35:10.152 --> 35:12.554 A little free play for you there, listeners. 35:12.594 --> 35:16.677 Beginning to See the Light was the name of the track, and this is Adam and Joe here on BBC 6 Music. 35:17.258 --> 35:24.364 Now, Adam, this week, or because this is a pre-record the week before last, I went to see the film of the moment. 35:25.124 --> 35:26.786 The movie everyone's talking about 35:27.791 --> 35:30.154 It's, um... Despero. 35:30.655 --> 35:31.316 Oh, Despero. 35:31.336 --> 35:31.997 No, I'm lying. 35:32.357 --> 35:33.178 That's not the film. 35:33.218 --> 35:35.061 No one's talking about Despero. 35:35.121 --> 35:36.562 I was talking about it the other day. 35:36.582 --> 35:36.823 Oh, no. 35:36.843 --> 35:37.844 What was I talking about? 35:38.004 --> 35:38.565 It looks good. 35:39.086 --> 35:40.527 Um, the movie of the moment. 35:40.648 --> 35:42.971 I just, I'm so isolated from the outside world. 35:42.991 --> 35:44.733 Slumdog Millionaire, of course. 35:44.873 --> 35:45.674 The feel-good hit of 35:45.694 --> 36:03.836 the year Danny Boyle's Mumbai classic well how interesting that you should call it the feel-good film of the year right because ever since the success of the greatest film ever made Mamma Mia have you seen that yet I'm trying to avoid it doing you have to see it seriously ever since Mamma Mia took over the world was the highest grossing film of all time 36:04.597 --> 36:06.838 People have tried to make every other film like it. 36:07.278 --> 36:07.558 OK. 36:07.859 --> 36:11.320 You know, they've tried to market different films in the same way as Mamma Mia. 36:11.700 --> 36:11.940 Sure. 36:12.221 --> 36:21.085 And the key factors to Mamma Mia are, you know, bright smiling faces on the actors, a nice white background and confetti falling from the air or something. 36:21.125 --> 36:22.485 Are you talking about the packaging here? 36:22.665 --> 36:23.346 Yeah, the poster. 36:23.446 --> 36:23.686 Yes. 36:23.986 --> 36:30.369 So if you look at the Slumdog Millionaire poster, it shows the lead man and lady, Dev from Skins, 36:31.349 --> 36:40.876 who's the lead actor, and a beautiful lady, smiling and hugging each other, being showered with confetti, as if it's some kind of wedding movie. 36:41.256 --> 36:42.657 Four weddings and a funeral. 36:42.737 --> 36:45.118 Meet some kind of Bollywood confection. 36:45.198 --> 36:59.828 The confetti's all day glow and multi-coloured, and it looks very bright and chirpy, when actually, of course, it's really a film about child slavery, life in the slums of Bombay, and surviving, grinding poverty. 37:01.549 --> 37:02.530 It's confusing, isn't it? 37:02.610 --> 37:02.790 Yeah. 37:03.231 --> 37:08.555 But that's just a little warning to people, you know, if they think it's going to be a bright fun fest. 37:09.375 --> 37:20.404 Well, it's written by Simon Beaufort, who wrote The Full Monty, so I was expecting something very similar, you know, something with a superficially gritty backdrop. 37:21.044 --> 37:24.665 But actually it was about some lovable characters who end up doing something fun. 37:24.785 --> 37:25.886 That's pretty much correct. 37:26.226 --> 37:27.146 But it's really good. 37:27.266 --> 37:28.246 I thought it was excellent. 37:28.267 --> 37:28.447 Yeah. 37:28.607 --> 37:33.908 The cleverest thing about it is the way it works, the game show who wants to be a millionaire into the film. 37:33.948 --> 37:38.770 And it's basically the world's first hybrid of a TV quiz show and movie narrative. 37:39.050 --> 37:39.250 Right. 37:39.530 --> 37:43.232 Which I'm surprised no one's done that before because, you know, weakest link. 37:43.492 --> 37:44.072 Well, hang on. 37:44.092 --> 37:45.152 What about quiz show? 37:45.512 --> 37:46.413 Well, that didn't actually 37:47.393 --> 37:49.674 You know, that had little bits of quiz show in it, didn't it? 37:49.794 --> 37:50.434 Yeah. 37:50.554 --> 37:56.176 This film, Slumdog Millionaire, actually is like an episode, a full episode of Who Wants to be a Millionaire? 37:56.196 --> 37:56.596 Oh, I see. 37:56.636 --> 38:02.558 From beginning to end, if you intercut the little narratives behind why the person knows the answer to the question. 38:02.578 --> 38:02.998 It'll flash. 38:03.078 --> 38:04.659 And also some behind the scenes action. 38:04.819 --> 38:05.059 Got you. 38:05.119 --> 38:07.780 So literally every 10 minutes it comes back to the studio. 38:07.800 --> 38:09.180 You have the graphics on screen. 38:09.541 --> 38:11.181 You see the questions and the choices. 38:11.541 --> 38:13.042 You can try and guess them for yourself. 38:13.522 --> 38:14.022 It's brilliant. 38:14.082 --> 38:16.323 I look round at the rest of the audience every time the 38:16.883 --> 38:26.509 film went back to the who wants to be a millionaire studio and everyone was silent, nobody munching food, everyone craning forward, completely gripped by it. 38:26.910 --> 38:29.532 But could that be done with other game shows, I'm thinking? 38:29.992 --> 38:40.419 You know, could there be some kind of weakest link movie, you know, that was about the life of, let's say, a minor celebrity and it was a celebrity themed weakest link? 38:41.340 --> 38:44.384 And, you know, they were trying to bank the money and all that business. 38:45.045 --> 38:45.866 And would that work? 38:46.327 --> 38:46.728 Certainly. 38:46.768 --> 38:48.069 Would you get Robinson involved? 38:48.510 --> 38:49.952 And Robinson would be involved, yes. 38:50.012 --> 38:52.055 Because it would be very easy to get hold of her, I would imagine. 38:52.195 --> 38:55.440 I think it's a very effective tool for keeping audiences' interest in a story. 38:55.861 --> 38:56.842 Yeah, that's genius. 38:57.843 --> 39:00.065 Uh, yeah, I mean, you could do it with all kinds of TV shows. 39:00.085 --> 39:01.926 Well, that's gonna open the sluice gate, though, isn't it? 39:02.147 --> 39:02.547 Do you think? 39:02.727 --> 39:02.947 Yeah. 39:03.247 --> 39:06.270 I think we should work on our own, uh, idea for something like that. 39:06.670 --> 39:08.492 What's the most popular quiz show on telly? 39:09.592 --> 39:11.214 Uh, well, it used to be Millionaire, didn't it? 39:11.254 --> 39:12.034 Is it Golden Balls? 39:12.835 --> 39:14.196 Almost certainly. 39:14.656 --> 39:15.717 Almost certainly not. 39:15.797 --> 39:16.177 Carrot. 39:17.018 --> 39:18.179 Jasper Carrot's Golden Balls. 39:18.199 --> 39:18.840 Yeah, yeah. 39:19.840 --> 39:21.741 Well, it's Knoll and his boxes. 39:21.821 --> 39:23.241 Deal or no deal, the movie. 39:23.301 --> 39:24.422 Yeah, exactly. 39:24.802 --> 39:26.142 Right, we're gonna get working on that. 39:26.423 --> 39:27.363 I'm gonna get working on it. 39:27.583 --> 39:27.803 Good. 39:27.943 --> 39:28.743 I'm gonna win an Oscar. 39:28.843 --> 39:31.484 You're listening to Adam and Joe here on BBC 6 Music. 39:31.564 --> 39:32.965 It's 10.30, time for the news. 39:33.025 --> 39:36.746 That was the giantific Coldplay with Life in Technicolor 2. 39:37.847 --> 39:41.328 That's the sequel to Life in Technicolor 1, of course. 39:41.488 --> 39:43.629 I learned something about Coldplay the other week, you know. 39:43.649 --> 39:44.170 What did you learn? 39:44.350 --> 39:47.712 They did a concert in the BBC TV centre. 39:47.872 --> 39:50.173 It was broadcast on the BBC HD channel. 39:50.594 --> 39:52.695 And I watched it because I watch anything in HD. 39:52.775 --> 39:57.198 And they had an interview with the band and it turns out they made all those clothes themselves. 39:57.238 --> 39:57.478 No. 39:58.158 --> 40:15.023 One of Brian Eno's tactics for immersing a band in the atmosphere and paraphernalia of record or a recording session is to, you know, take the creativity beyond merely recording music and he encouraged them to design their own clothes to wear whilst playing the music. 40:15.223 --> 40:18.344 Right, he probably offered them a choice of creative things to do. 40:18.384 --> 40:22.686 You can design your own range of perfume, something that Eno has done himself. 40:23.146 --> 40:23.426 Has he? 40:23.506 --> 40:24.186 He's got a perfume. 40:24.446 --> 40:28.128 I don't know if he's got a perfume, but he is dabbled in olfactory kind of science. 40:28.148 --> 40:28.688 I've got a perfume. 40:28.908 --> 40:29.168 Have you? 40:29.209 --> 40:29.809 What's yours called? 40:33.030 --> 40:34.211 Airborne toxic event. 40:34.751 --> 40:35.032 Yes. 40:35.292 --> 40:35.552 Sorry. 40:35.612 --> 40:37.433 I was picked that up. 40:37.473 --> 40:38.053 That's okay. 40:38.773 --> 40:39.534 Oh, that's absolutely fine. 40:39.554 --> 40:40.474 What are you talking about? 40:40.875 --> 40:41.775 Sorry, that was really good. 40:41.795 --> 40:42.615 It's part of the course. 40:43.256 --> 40:45.277 Thank you so much for this Sony Award. 40:46.618 --> 40:47.679 It means so much to us. 40:47.719 --> 40:50.421 There's so many people we have to thank. 40:50.581 --> 40:56.366 And I would imagine that that would have been one of the many things on the menu for Coldplay to do creatively. 40:56.426 --> 40:57.287 What else could they have done? 40:57.847 --> 40:59.128 Design greetings cards? 41:00.429 --> 41:05.133 Yes, maybe written over, just drawn tattoos on each other's naked bodies with felt pens. 41:05.554 --> 41:05.714 Right. 41:05.874 --> 41:07.775 Paint their toenails in fun ways. 41:08.055 --> 41:09.155 Yeah. 41:09.235 --> 41:10.135 Got some graffiti. 41:10.676 --> 41:10.896 Right. 41:11.236 --> 41:11.496 Right. 41:11.716 --> 41:13.656 Like, graffitied up a wall, a graffiti wall. 41:13.676 --> 41:14.937 It would have been painted over after. 41:15.177 --> 41:15.457 Yeah. 41:15.517 --> 41:16.597 But they could have had some fun. 41:16.757 --> 41:20.419 They could have stuck bits of pasta to paper. 41:22.239 --> 41:25.500 And little bits of couscous and stuff. 41:26.400 --> 41:26.880 Things like that. 41:26.900 --> 41:28.401 But they went for the clothing option. 41:28.601 --> 41:36.066 They did, and they were being very self-effacing about the clothing in the interview, talking about how it was now all, you know, falling apart because their sewing wasn't very good. 41:36.086 --> 41:37.727 Was it Martin doing most of the effacement? 41:38.247 --> 41:38.888 Martin, yeah. 41:38.928 --> 41:43.090 He was being very self-effacing and he was flattering a lot of his other bandmates as well. 41:44.131 --> 41:48.153 You know, it's difficult to be too cynical about Coldplay, because they tend to undercut it. 41:48.173 --> 41:50.254 They're not what you'd call an arrogant band. 41:50.674 --> 41:54.615 No, not in the least, but there's something self-serving about his self-effacingness sometimes. 41:54.655 --> 41:55.876 But this is Crash 2 Catch 22. 41:55.936 --> 41:56.956 What's the guy supposed to do? 41:57.056 --> 41:57.716 Well, exactly. 41:57.937 --> 41:59.577 I mean, we've been in that position sometimes. 41:59.757 --> 42:00.057 Have we? 42:00.338 --> 42:04.939 Well, you kind of want to... Being an internationally successful multi-millionaire rock band. 42:04.979 --> 42:05.400 Yeah. 42:05.440 --> 42:06.460 Produced by Brian Eno. 42:06.540 --> 42:08.161 And going out with Gwyneth Paltrow. 42:08.281 --> 42:08.861 That's what I meant. 42:09.221 --> 42:09.821 Now, you know what I mean? 42:09.861 --> 42:13.203 Like, sometimes you want to undercut yourself before someone else gets to you. 42:13.783 --> 42:16.184 And you would rather call yourself rubbish than someone else. 42:16.204 --> 42:17.004 It's called false modesty. 42:17.304 --> 42:17.644 Right. 42:17.844 --> 42:18.144 Right. 42:18.665 --> 42:23.206 And sometimes I feel like maybe some of Chris Martin's selflessness. 42:23.366 --> 42:26.788 I found it kind of impressive because the way he danced was embarrassing. 42:27.648 --> 42:29.168 When he performed, it was cool. 42:29.749 --> 42:31.849 And it was cool that he's not embarrassed by it. 42:32.210 --> 42:38.372 But any other human being would be ashamed of doing the things he does behind the piano. 42:38.952 --> 42:41.815 and falling over and rolling around in a stupid manner. 42:42.035 --> 42:43.296 What's he doing behind the piano? 42:43.416 --> 42:43.856 Playing it. 42:43.977 --> 42:54.045 You know, he just pulls weird faces and does odd things with his hands and then falls over and looks as if he's got very bad cramp down the right side of his body and, you know, while he's singing. 42:54.466 --> 42:54.686 Yeah. 42:55.286 --> 42:57.787 in a kind of, sort of, bono kind of a way. 42:59.187 --> 43:01.528 Like he's channeling some kind of wild spirit. 43:01.688 --> 43:02.408 Yes, exactly. 43:02.448 --> 43:04.929 And it's a bit of a weird, dark, wild spirit. 43:05.069 --> 43:08.030 Yeah, it's maybe an old maths teacher. 43:08.070 --> 43:08.710 He's channeling. 43:08.790 --> 43:09.691 It's not Stuart, is it? 43:10.251 --> 43:11.111 Stuart's too young. 43:11.171 --> 43:12.451 It's an old one from the 50s. 43:13.492 --> 43:14.732 Anyway, I love Coldplay. 43:14.832 --> 43:17.493 They're the best band in the world, and I'm very glad we played that record. 43:17.913 --> 43:23.176 So am I. Listen, don't get me wrong, I still want to be friends with Chris Martin if I ever get the opportunity, right? 43:23.436 --> 43:23.657 Right. 43:23.977 --> 43:30.100 So I'm just, I'm taking, now I'm worried, now that I've spoken to Stuart, the whole idea of being rude about people in the outside world is freaking me out. 43:30.521 --> 43:32.442 Shall we have a bit of more Chiba just to clear the air? 43:32.502 --> 43:32.682 Yeah. 43:32.882 --> 43:33.943 This is part of the process. 43:34.103 --> 43:35.904 That was more Chiba with part of the process. 43:36.244 --> 43:38.906 This is Adam and Joe here on BBC Six Music. 43:39.626 --> 43:42.090 This program is pre-recorded, incidentally, listeners. 43:42.110 --> 43:49.399 We wouldn't want you to think that this is live and text us or email us, expecting us to read out your texts or emails, because it's not going to happen. 43:49.419 --> 43:50.260 I'm really sorry about that. 43:50.921 --> 43:56.728 Circumstances beyond our control dictated the fact that we had to record this show over a week ago, but hey, it doesn't matter. 43:56.748 --> 43:57.770 It's still a great show, right? 43:58.294 --> 43:58.574 Yeah. 43:59.015 --> 43:59.295 Hey. 43:59.816 --> 44:00.357 Dirty. 44:00.757 --> 44:02.299 Don't worry, I've got your money. 44:02.380 --> 44:03.261 Don't you worry. 44:03.541 --> 44:04.122 A dirty. 44:05.043 --> 44:05.744 That's ODB. 44:05.804 --> 44:07.106 I don't know, I just felt like rapping. 44:07.767 --> 44:08.848 Just couldn't stop myself. 44:09.389 --> 44:10.390 Well, that's good. 44:11.071 --> 44:11.932 You know Van Morrison? 44:12.493 --> 44:12.753 Yes. 44:13.374 --> 44:15.576 Have you ever heard his contractual obligation songs? 44:16.137 --> 44:16.457 No. 44:16.617 --> 44:25.646 I've heard that he's, and I don't know to what extent these stories are apocryphal, but there's an awful lot of Grumpy Van Morrison stories that swill around the pop gossip sphere. 44:26.087 --> 44:33.014 Well, this is something that I've read about before in various magazines, and you can find it fairly easily on the internet. 44:33.574 --> 44:51.549 But the fact is that around 1967 van Morrison was involved with a record deal that he wanted to get out of I think the label was bang records that he was on and Basically what he did to fulfill this contractual obligation was just crank out 31 songs, right? 44:51.569 --> 45:01.817 Just went into the studio had his acoustic guitar The guitar doesn't even sound really very tuned and he just bashes out songs that are about a minute and a half Which is about the minimum length that you could call a song 45:01.977 --> 45:03.399 What stage in his career is this? 45:03.739 --> 45:04.660 This is very early on. 45:05.020 --> 45:12.367 So his big hit up to that point had been Brown Eyed Girl, which I think was first released on Bang Records. 45:12.667 --> 45:15.130 So he's trying to get out and he's got various axes to grind. 45:15.150 --> 45:18.853 He's obviously very upset with someone in the label that won't release him from his contract. 45:19.474 --> 45:24.737 And he actually sings a song sort of insulting this guy, which I'll play you in a second. 45:24.977 --> 45:30.641 But let me play you a clip from one of these tracks just to give you a flavour for what kind of thing it is. 45:30.941 --> 45:38.946 This one is called The Big Royalty Check and he's just moaning about the fact that there's various monies due to him that he hasn't received yet. 45:38.986 --> 45:41.487 And this is the song that he's obviously made up on the spot about it. 45:47.904 --> 46:14.335 For my royalty check to come and it still hasn't come yet It's about a year overdue I guess it's coming from the big royalty check in the sky I waited and the mailman never dropped it in my letterbox 46:15.174 --> 46:18.536 And so he goes on like that for about a minute and a half, and then just stops. 46:19.037 --> 46:20.938 And all the songs are more or less like that. 46:21.018 --> 46:24.500 Just him and his guitar, very basic rhythm, and he's just singing away. 46:24.881 --> 46:26.061 And they get progressively bizarre. 46:26.081 --> 46:35.748 Like, he starts off in the session with songs like Jump and Thump, and another one called Scream and Holler, another one called Shake and Roll, and one called Twist and Shake. 46:35.768 --> 46:41.452 And they're all just him sort of going, yeah, Twist and Shake, Twist and Shake, yeah. 46:41.512 --> 46:44.874 And then Jump and Holler, Jump and Holler. 46:45.154 --> 46:51.256 But then as he gets on he gets more and more grumpy and starts singing more and more pointed songs, so the big royalty check in the sky being one. 46:51.636 --> 46:55.918 Here's another one that he sings that's obviously directed at one of the executives at Bang Records. 46:56.058 --> 46:56.298 Right. 46:56.518 --> 46:58.159 And it's called Up Your Mind. 47:23.612 --> 47:26.274 That's what he does when he runs out of steam on a lot of these tracks. 47:26.294 --> 47:34.580 He just starts going... The funny thing is you can hear little sort of snippets of his actual good records in there, can't you? 47:34.640 --> 47:39.163 That's the thing is that even when he's not trying and when he's just being a jerk... There's still something there. 47:39.203 --> 47:42.226 There's something brilliant about it because he's just got such a wonderful voice. 47:42.746 --> 47:44.407 He can't help being quite good. 47:44.427 --> 47:45.828 Yeah, and the rhythm of his voice. 47:46.008 --> 47:46.229 Yeah. 47:47.089 --> 47:50.330 That's a good thing to say to a person that you want to diss though, isn't it? 47:50.550 --> 47:51.291 Up your mind. 47:51.551 --> 47:52.531 Up your mind. 47:52.611 --> 47:54.852 You've only got one brain cell up your mind. 47:55.172 --> 48:00.634 But the best track on Van Morrison's Contractual Obligation album, for my money, is Ringworm. 48:05.856 --> 48:11.518 I can see by the look on your face that you've got Ringworm. 48:14.460 --> 48:15.380 I'm very sorry but... 48:17.233 --> 48:20.414 I have to tell you that you've got ringworm. 48:20.555 --> 48:22.936 He's having a bit of thinking space here. 48:22.976 --> 48:25.037 Very common to see. 48:40.465 --> 48:42.327 And then he gets to the melancholy towards the end. 48:42.347 --> 48:48.992 You're very lucky to have Ringworm because you may have had something else. 48:52.335 --> 49:05.466 You've got Ringworm. 49:14.080 --> 49:24.905 Wow, this is what he would have sounded like if he hadn't made it in music and had just been a vet with a sort of frustrated musical vet. 49:24.965 --> 49:25.466 Exactly. 49:25.486 --> 49:29.708 I'm sorry to tell you, you're a dog's god, please. 49:31.889 --> 49:32.449 That's amazing. 49:32.469 --> 49:34.670 And those recordings are commercially available now. 49:35.110 --> 49:36.371 Well, they certainly used to be. 49:37.231 --> 49:40.673 They would churn out Van Morrison compilations at a frightening rate. 49:40.753 --> 49:41.033 Really? 49:41.073 --> 49:42.554 And sometimes they'd stick some of those on. 49:42.754 --> 49:42.974 Yeah. 49:44.160 --> 49:59.695 I don't know if they're still available or if there's been some kind of injunction which has removed them from public consumption but they're easily findable on the internet and they're pretty funny stuff but I was thinking because we've got no song wars this week perhaps we could do a similar thing towards the end of the show I like it if I play you a little rhythm on the acoustic guitar 50:02.614 --> 50:07.695 Why are you always forcing me to do songs without any warning? 50:08.555 --> 50:09.136 Something like that. 50:09.496 --> 50:10.516 Yeah, I'm up for it. 50:10.736 --> 50:15.777 Okay, so that's to look forward to at the end of the show, listeners, an improvised contractual obligation song wars. 50:15.797 --> 50:22.879 But right now, I was just going to point out we do that sort of thing at the end of the show so that we can leave the studio as quickly as possible and get to safety. 50:23.079 --> 50:23.379 That's right. 50:23.439 --> 50:24.759 In case people are angry. 50:25.019 --> 50:25.679 What's happening now? 50:25.879 --> 50:26.420 Yeah, music. 50:26.780 --> 50:28.140 And this is your free play, Joe. 50:28.240 --> 50:32.504 Yeah, this is Elvis Costello from the album Goodbye Cruel World. 50:32.584 --> 50:34.426 I do believe this is the only flame in town. 50:34.486 --> 50:35.287 That was keen. 50:35.307 --> 50:39.951 That was a session track recorded for six music on the 3rd of May 2003. 50:40.071 --> 50:42.213 Somewhere only we know, of course, was the track they were playing. 50:42.233 --> 50:47.558 And before that trail, you heard Joe's free play, which was Elvis Costello. 50:48.259 --> 50:51.862 And he was wielding some vicious 80s sax in there, wasn't he? 50:52.082 --> 50:52.603 Do you think? 50:52.763 --> 50:53.404 I like that album. 50:53.444 --> 50:54.946 It's called Goodbye, Cruel World. 50:54.966 --> 50:56.808 It obviously got solo and the attractions, of course. 50:56.828 --> 50:57.029 Yeah. 50:57.049 --> 50:58.611 Do you think that was particularly 80s? 50:58.951 --> 51:00.293 Well, the saxophone sound. 51:00.693 --> 51:02.296 Yeah, good horns, though, in that song. 51:02.536 --> 51:03.097 Oh, yeah, sure. 51:03.117 --> 51:04.138 I mean, it's a great track. 51:04.198 --> 51:05.460 Sax solos, it's true. 51:05.500 --> 51:09.405 They have gone the way of the dodo, even though Keene's attempting to bring them back. 51:09.585 --> 51:16.310 Well, I was just gonna say, I wonder if Keene would do something as big as that sax solo, cos that really stamps your record with an 80s sound. 51:16.351 --> 51:23.476 Yeah, it's like the guy in that film, The Lost Boys, on the beach, you know, with the curly hair and the shirt all muscly and sweaty and the little sax. 51:24.197 --> 51:26.479 Blowing it as if he's trying to burst the moon. 51:26.699 --> 51:27.760 Bill Clinton, you're talking about. 51:27.800 --> 51:27.940 Yeah. 51:28.880 --> 51:30.761 And also, what's his face? 51:31.221 --> 51:38.664 The man who was involved in the scandal with the underage girl who was then in the West Wing and he was in Wayne's World, Robert Lowe. 51:39.665 --> 51:40.265 Rob Lowe. 51:40.905 --> 51:41.225 Right. 51:41.886 --> 51:45.127 He played the sax in About Last Night, was it? 51:45.607 --> 51:46.728 Yep, I think that's right. 51:46.768 --> 51:48.029 They all hung out in that bar. 51:48.109 --> 51:48.530 Or St. 51:48.570 --> 51:49.370 Elmo's Fire? 51:49.490 --> 51:50.111 That's right, St. 51:50.151 --> 51:51.052 Elmo's Fire, yeah. 51:51.112 --> 51:52.993 He got up on a table in their stupid bar. 51:53.113 --> 51:57.657 It was the sexiest thing you could do, was wear a white dinner jacket with no shirt underneath. 51:57.677 --> 52:05.303 The sax is the sexiest instrument, not only because it sounds like the word sex, but because it's the shape of an erotic snake. 52:05.784 --> 52:06.124 Is it? 52:06.204 --> 52:06.524 Yes. 52:06.985 --> 52:12.589 That's right, because you could just pop it out of your pants there and it would look like you had a turbocharged organ. 52:12.930 --> 52:14.131 Mmm, that was the noise it would make. 52:16.752 --> 52:20.513 Eda Maria with Oh My God. 52:20.553 --> 52:23.254 This is Adam and Jo here on BBC 6 Music. 52:23.354 --> 52:27.035 Very nice to be with you listeners, albeit in pre-recorded fashion. 52:27.216 --> 52:33.858 So please don't text or email us today expecting us to read out your messages because we simply won't be able to. 52:34.788 --> 52:42.312 Now Joe, who do you think is the kind of pop star who would never ever sell out as far as TV ads go? 52:42.332 --> 52:50.937 I'm thinking about this because of having seen in rapid succession John Lydon advertising British butter and then Iggy Pop recently. 52:52.045 --> 52:53.846 gyrating around advertising. 52:53.866 --> 52:55.166 I think it's car insurance. 52:55.566 --> 53:00.668 Now, Iggy Pop previously has sold his services to Gap, I think. 53:00.908 --> 53:01.208 Right. 53:01.569 --> 53:10.852 So it's not like the very first time for... Alice Cooper is another one who's all over the telly at the moment in that very annoying advert that tells you about Norwich Unions renaming. 53:11.092 --> 53:11.652 Rebranding. 53:11.892 --> 53:16.134 I mean, I wouldn't be surprised necessarily by Alice Cooper taking the dirty advertising dollar. 53:16.334 --> 53:17.555 Who would never sell out? 53:17.635 --> 53:19.156 Who's got the most integrity? 53:19.576 --> 53:21.918 Let's say, I would say, Tom York. 53:22.318 --> 53:26.301 You'd be hard pushed to find the Yorkie bar in an advert, wouldn't you? 53:26.461 --> 53:28.083 But then you'd say that about Leiden. 53:28.463 --> 53:34.647 Imagine looking at Johnny Leiden in 1977 or whatever it was, at the peak of his furious powers. 53:35.308 --> 53:37.790 He was an awesomely frightening figure. 53:38.430 --> 53:39.131 I mean, he really was. 53:39.171 --> 53:41.533 It still packs a punch when you see clips of him in his prime. 53:41.953 --> 53:45.836 And you would think there's someone who would never, ever sell out. 53:45.876 --> 53:51.381 So you say you think 30 years is enough to erode even the most solid lump of integrity. 53:51.981 --> 53:58.486 30 years after that, you know, maybe you have a family, your perspective on the world changes completely. 53:58.526 --> 54:06.213 You stop worrying about impressing people and upholding, you know, what do you think your principles might be, that kind of thing. 54:06.693 --> 54:09.274 And everything becomes a little bit more flexible in a fun way. 54:10.454 --> 54:17.335 So I would say even the Yorkie bar, in 30 years' time, might be thinking about taking the dirty dollar. 54:17.375 --> 54:21.156 I'm not saying, like, you're going to see Tom York driving around in a car. 54:21.236 --> 54:22.036 I think he might be. 54:22.096 --> 54:24.157 I can just imagine, like, karma police. 54:25.137 --> 54:27.457 Ah, Cadbury's twirly. 54:27.477 --> 54:28.898 It's a new bar, the twirly. 54:29.438 --> 54:29.558 Yeah. 54:29.598 --> 54:30.698 You know, in 30 years' time? 54:31.138 --> 54:31.338 Yeah. 54:31.378 --> 54:32.279 I can see him doing that. 54:32.419 --> 54:39.505 For a minute now, I lost myself in Cadbury's twirly. 54:40.145 --> 54:41.527 There's a song was, isn't there? 54:42.587 --> 54:51.315 That was the delightful sound of Super Furry Animals with Hello Sunshine from way back in 2003, the good old days I like to call them. 54:51.715 --> 54:54.057 This is Adam and Joe here on BBC Six Music. 54:54.437 --> 54:58.320 Now, Joe, a while back I was doing a little bit of voiceover work. 54:59.701 --> 55:01.883 for an ad for Walker's Crisps. 55:01.923 --> 55:03.965 I don't know if they ended up using my voice or not. 55:04.245 --> 55:05.746 Other crisps are available, aren't they? 55:05.766 --> 55:06.567 Of course they are. 55:06.787 --> 55:08.888 Many other fine brands are available. 55:09.629 --> 55:14.453 But they are launching a whole new range of flavours that the public can vote for, right? 55:14.513 --> 55:14.733 Right. 55:14.953 --> 55:16.274 They've done this before, haven't they? 55:16.714 --> 55:19.697 I don't know if they've done one where... Well, maybe I've just seen the campaign. 55:19.977 --> 55:23.600 Yeah, I don't know if they've done one where the public are actually in a position to vote for. 55:23.620 --> 55:23.780 I know. 55:24.060 --> 55:27.483 They've done a show where singers sing and you vote for your favourites. 55:27.783 --> 55:28.023 Right. 55:28.083 --> 55:28.924 That's what I'm thinking of. 55:30.285 --> 55:31.306 X-Factor, is it called? 55:31.386 --> 55:32.507 It's called the X-Factor. 55:32.527 --> 55:33.648 Yeah, that's what you were thinking of. 55:34.088 --> 55:38.271 But some of the flavors they've got are fairly challenging, you would think. 55:38.411 --> 55:40.533 They've got onion barge flavor, fair enough. 55:41.054 --> 55:42.114 Pretty basic flavor. 55:42.555 --> 55:50.581 Easy to replicate as well, I would think, because I tried all these crisps before doing the ad to see if I could taste the difference. 55:50.841 --> 55:52.323 They were all very nice. 55:52.363 --> 55:53.684 They had builders breakfast, 55:54.844 --> 55:59.886 That was... That'll be beans, egg, bacon and sausage and buttered fried bread. 56:00.546 --> 56:02.146 Yeah, there was egg and bacon. 56:02.206 --> 56:04.167 You could taste the egg and that's what builders eat. 56:04.227 --> 56:06.168 Britain's built on builders' breakfasts. 56:06.268 --> 56:06.928 It's very nice. 56:07.348 --> 56:08.368 Chilli and chocolate. 56:08.748 --> 56:09.629 No, that's bad. 56:09.749 --> 56:10.369 Or is it bad? 56:10.609 --> 56:14.714 That sounds like some sort of Heston-Boomintall style fusion recipe. 56:14.754 --> 56:18.499 It just tasted very much like something vaguely beefy. 56:19.100 --> 56:19.360 Right. 56:19.740 --> 56:21.122 You know, it wasn't that offensive. 56:21.583 --> 56:26.589 Fish and chips, quite nice, but it again tasted a little bit like prawn cocktail. 56:26.609 --> 56:27.951 Salt and vinegar, I would imagine. 56:28.371 --> 56:51.715 no it was less it was more poor cocktail god you really slapped me down on that one sorry mate but i couldn't i couldn't stand for salt and vinegar all right especially the way you said it sorry you're so confident those flavors sound tasty so far squirrel mmm that's a famous old one isn't it was it hedgehog someone famously issued hedgehog that was big in the 70s even wasn't it or was it 80s that's the kind of thing they'd cover on that slide with great hilarity 56:51.895 --> 56:55.878 It's not just squirrel on its own, it's some type of squirrel. 56:55.898 --> 56:56.799 It was not the 9 o'clock news. 56:56.839 --> 57:02.544 There was a phase in the early 80s when hedgehogs were the comedy creature of choice. 57:02.644 --> 57:03.785 Then it became fish. 57:04.425 --> 57:06.827 And then it was monkeys in the 90s, wasn't it? 57:06.847 --> 57:07.067 Yeah. 57:07.868 --> 57:09.089 Python, it was always fish. 57:09.629 --> 57:10.990 Not the 9 o'clock news in that lot. 57:11.070 --> 57:13.432 Mel Smith and Griff Reese Jones, it always used to be hedgehogs. 57:13.552 --> 57:15.513 Every decade has its comedy creature. 57:16.134 --> 57:17.855 What's the comedy creature for the noughties? 57:18.195 --> 57:19.036 The trouser snake. 57:20.016 --> 57:20.577 I don't know. 57:20.817 --> 57:21.257 I don't know. 57:21.297 --> 57:22.818 Maybe we're not into the noughties enough. 57:23.539 --> 57:24.460 We've only got one year left. 57:25.440 --> 57:26.921 I mean, people still find that in 2001. 57:27.081 --> 57:28.282 Monkeys funny, don't they? 57:28.342 --> 57:29.283 Monkeys are funny. 57:29.463 --> 57:30.404 Maybe it's squirrels. 57:31.084 --> 57:32.064 Maybe it is squirrels. 57:32.284 --> 57:33.945 Anyway, where are you going to? 57:34.005 --> 57:39.907 Well, I was just wondering, I mean, the thing is that there's really very little difference between the actual flavours, you know what I mean? 57:40.027 --> 57:41.107 Yeah. 57:41.207 --> 57:42.967 And you could more or less just call them anything. 57:43.208 --> 57:45.388 What kind of flavours would you go for? 57:45.468 --> 57:47.889 What would I like as a crisp? 57:48.289 --> 57:48.609 Yeah. 57:48.629 --> 57:51.370 I mean, what's your favourite food first of all? 57:54.008 --> 57:54.668 Why are you laughing? 57:54.688 --> 57:55.688 Because this is so lame. 57:56.528 --> 58:14.692 I like the way you set up a topic in a quite long winded way and then you close your notebook, wrap the elastic band round your notebook and then look at me and go, so what kind of Christi? 58:15.772 --> 58:21.953 As if I've got to try and come up with some sort of satisfactory punch line for this. 58:23.153 --> 58:30.862 It might have been okay, but you said, where are you going with this? 58:31.122 --> 58:36.068 I started worrying about it and then I lost my confidence and then I thought I'd shift it onto you. 58:36.088 --> 58:36.408 Cheese. 58:36.509 --> 58:37.049 Cheese and onion. 58:38.831 --> 58:41.473 I really, I wish they'd make Cheese and Onion favourite crisps. 58:41.553 --> 58:42.113 They do. 58:42.374 --> 58:48.699 German Electro-Hip-Hop Fund there, from a band that I think is called De-Fant-tition-Vier. 58:48.779 --> 58:49.860 What else might it be called? 58:49.900 --> 58:51.461 That sounds like a pretty unique name. 58:51.581 --> 58:53.182 How could you get that confused with anything else? 58:53.322 --> 59:00.388 Well, I'm guessing that's what they're called, because I got the track from somebody's iPod and there was no music details on it. 59:00.428 --> 59:02.129 It was completely blank, right? 59:02.410 --> 59:06.013 And I haven't seen that person since, and I've never been able to find out 59:06.733 --> 59:07.853 anything about the track. 59:07.953 --> 59:09.934 Was it someone you attacked at night in the street? 59:10.534 --> 59:18.157 No, I just, it was a friend that I met a while back and we exchanged lots of, it was a name dropping friend. 59:18.517 --> 59:18.757 Oh. 59:18.777 --> 59:19.377 Spike Jones. 59:19.657 --> 59:19.957 No. 59:20.378 --> 59:30.021 And I got his, we did an evening of swapping music and he just copied a whole load of stuff across to mine and I copied a load of stuff across to his iPod and 59:30.721 --> 59:34.123 And that was one of the tracks that he copied across, but there was no details on it. 59:34.443 --> 59:43.628 So I did that thing where you go on your phone, and I think it's called Shazam, and it identifies music usually pretty brilliantly, but it drew a blank with that one. 59:43.648 --> 59:54.134 And the only reason I think it's that band, the Fantastic Four from Germany, is because there's an AFX Twin remix album where there's a track by a band called De Fantastician Vier. 59:54.674 --> 59:59.036 that sounds similar, like the guy's rapping style is similar, so I'm assuming it's them. 59:59.296 --> 01:00:02.597 Well, I'm sure our listeners will enjoy correcting you if you're wrong. 01:00:02.657 --> 01:00:03.298 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:00:03.378 --> 01:00:07.539 I've searched everywhere on the internet and tried to match that track, but no one's ever been able to help me. 01:00:07.839 --> 01:00:14.782 Now, listeners, one of the playlisted tracks here at Six Music at the moment is by a gentleman called Frank Turner, formerly of the hardcore band Million Dead. 01:00:14.822 --> 01:00:21.525 It's called Reasons Not To Be An Idiot, and we're about to play it, but we're excited to announce that Frank has emailed the show, 01:00:22.385 --> 01:00:24.487 He says, Hi Adam and Joe, my name is Frank Turner. 01:00:24.767 --> 01:00:27.870 I have a song on the playlist at your venerable institution of a radio station. 01:00:28.170 --> 01:00:33.635 A little bird tells me, that means he doesn't listen to the show, that you played it on your show the other day. 01:00:34.016 --> 01:00:37.199 Words cannot express my joy at this if true, and maybe he does listen to the show. 01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:41.723 I'm a long-standing fan, he does listen to the show, and think you're both simply super. 01:00:42.023 --> 01:00:44.905 Good stuff, have me on the show, go on I dare you Frank. 01:00:45.586 --> 01:00:56.035 We tend not to have professional musicians with the exception of Roger Moore, who has been in the game rather than on the game for 40 years. 01:00:56.055 --> 01:00:57.696 In the acting game rather than the music game. 01:00:57.716 --> 01:00:59.037 50 years, even 60 years. 01:00:59.497 --> 01:01:02.420 Apart from him, we don't really have guests. 01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:04.862 We have the salt man, but that's different. 01:01:04.902 --> 01:01:06.123 Who wouldn't have the salt man on? 01:01:06.163 --> 01:01:08.745 We have guests when it suits us to do so. 01:01:08.785 --> 01:01:09.105 Yeah. 01:01:09.545 --> 01:01:14.589 But we don't really feel obliged to have guests and we don't have like a roster of people that we call in. 01:01:15.350 --> 01:01:16.752 So we don't want to set any precedents. 01:01:17.532 --> 01:01:26.442 But if it amuses us to get Frank in, then he doesn't really... You know what? 01:01:26.682 --> 01:01:29.064 I sense Frank no longer wants to come on the show. 01:01:30.566 --> 01:01:32.328 I can sense Frank getting the flu. 01:01:32.388 --> 01:01:33.309 I said that in the wrong way. 01:01:33.349 --> 01:01:34.230 Listen, I didn't mean that. 01:01:34.970 --> 01:01:36.530 I think it would be delightful. 01:01:36.590 --> 01:01:37.651 What would we do with Frank? 01:01:37.811 --> 01:01:38.291 I don't know. 01:01:38.331 --> 01:01:38.731 You know what? 01:01:38.771 --> 01:01:45.572 I think the only excuse we could have for having musical guests on this show is if we were to do a collaborative song wars. 01:01:45.812 --> 01:01:46.152 Right. 01:01:46.332 --> 01:01:56.234 Which people often suggest that you and I get together with a musician each and go off into a proper studio and collaborate with that musician to produce a song. 01:01:56.274 --> 01:01:57.035 Who would you use? 01:01:57.355 --> 01:01:58.055 Dizzy Rascal. 01:01:58.775 --> 01:01:59.816 Yeah, but have you ever met him? 01:02:00.056 --> 01:02:00.276 No. 01:02:00.917 --> 01:02:03.820 I think this is something that we'd, you know, we'd start this ball rolling. 01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:04.060 Yeah. 01:02:04.580 --> 01:02:09.365 And we might have a kind of a top trumps thing in terms of musicians who are offering to help. 01:02:09.645 --> 01:02:09.805 Right. 01:02:09.845 --> 01:02:13.309 I mean, it's possible no one would offer and I am fantasizing here. 01:02:13.389 --> 01:02:13.549 Yeah. 01:02:13.729 --> 01:02:16.411 And probably being a bit self aggrandizing. 01:02:16.712 --> 01:02:23.058 But just imagine if like record companies were keen on the idea and they started offering various artists to us. 01:02:23.638 --> 01:02:28.681 And each week, it just might go up and up and up, you know, like some sort of Blue Peter appeal. 01:02:28.961 --> 01:02:30.322 Well, let's make that official then. 01:02:30.382 --> 01:02:37.246 We would like bands, currently established bands or acts to help us with song wars. 01:02:37.286 --> 01:02:42.068 But they've got to like go into a studio with us for a day and that costs money and stuff. 01:02:42.188 --> 01:02:42.389 Yeah. 01:02:42.609 --> 01:02:44.230 So I don't know how that's going to happen. 01:02:44.650 --> 01:02:45.790 All we need is their skills, right? 01:02:46.231 --> 01:02:46.391 Yeah. 01:02:46.411 --> 01:02:50.133 So if we were able to just hook up with them, we could just bring our laptops, use what we usually use. 01:02:50.373 --> 01:02:51.554 and then just use their skills. 01:02:51.774 --> 01:02:52.314 And you think? 01:02:52.694 --> 01:02:54.315 Oh, are you talking about something a bit grander? 01:02:54.675 --> 01:02:55.636 I think it would be cool. 01:02:55.656 --> 01:03:03.159 Like, I imagine, I just imagine me and Dizzy and, you know, we're getting, we're in the studio and we're collaborating. 01:03:03.539 --> 01:03:08.302 I'm throwing various rhymes down and he's getting really excited and, you know. 01:03:08.322 --> 01:03:09.082 Keep imagining. 01:03:09.782 --> 01:03:11.043 I think that's what I'm aiming for. 01:03:11.163 --> 01:03:12.343 He's not going to do anything with you. 01:03:13.364 --> 01:03:15.425 He's not, I mean, he's got a sense of humor. 01:03:15.465 --> 01:03:19.787 I'm not, you know, certainly I'm not saying he doesn't, but he would hate someone like that. 01:03:21.148 --> 01:03:24.469 He hangs out with Cecil, what's his name, whatever he's called. 01:03:24.549 --> 01:03:25.189 Cecil B. DeMille. 01:03:25.329 --> 01:03:28.390 What's he called, not Mark Ronson, the other... Calvin Harris. 01:03:28.890 --> 01:03:29.811 Calvin Harris? 01:03:29.851 --> 01:03:31.351 Yeah, he'll hang out with Calvin Harris. 01:03:31.371 --> 01:03:34.052 He's very tall as well, so maybe... I'm better than Calvin Harris. 01:03:34.332 --> 01:03:34.612 Really? 01:03:34.793 --> 01:03:35.153 Yes! 01:03:35.173 --> 01:03:37.093 I am, I know I am. 01:03:37.113 --> 01:03:38.754 Calvin Harris is quite moody though. 01:03:38.974 --> 01:03:40.215 Yes, so am I. Are you? 01:03:40.395 --> 01:03:41.936 Yeah, if you don't listen to this programme. 01:03:42.857 --> 01:03:43.558 You're haughty. 01:03:43.798 --> 01:03:44.418 What's different? 01:03:44.698 --> 01:03:45.699 Dizzy likes haughtyness. 01:03:45.799 --> 01:03:46.340 Yeah, maybe. 01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:48.161 Well, let's get the ball rolling. 01:03:48.181 --> 01:03:48.922 Let's see who we get. 01:03:48.942 --> 01:03:51.624 It'll be interesting to find out, like this time in a month. 01:03:51.704 --> 01:03:52.324 So what are we saying? 01:03:52.344 --> 01:03:55.226 We're saying record companies or artists. 01:03:55.647 --> 01:04:01.531 If you'd like to collaborate with either Adam or I on a song wars song, write to us, please. 01:04:01.631 --> 01:04:03.492 No one's going to want to collaborate with me though, are they? 01:04:03.512 --> 01:04:04.353 Of course they are. 01:04:04.413 --> 01:04:05.314 Your songs are brilliant. 01:04:05.374 --> 01:04:05.914 No, they're not. 01:04:05.934 --> 01:04:06.555 Your songs are brilliant. 01:04:06.635 --> 01:04:07.856 Adam and Jo Dot 01:04:08.716 --> 01:04:11.298 6MusicAtBBC.co.uk is the email address. 01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:13.760 They're going to be falling over themselves to get in touch with us. 01:04:14.421 --> 01:04:15.021 Absolutely. 01:04:15.141 --> 01:04:18.744 Well, here's Frank right now with reasons not to be an idiot. 01:04:19.104 --> 01:04:21.746 You're listening to Adam and Jo here on BBC 6 Music. 01:04:21.826 --> 01:04:22.687 It's time for the news. 01:04:22.927 --> 01:04:26.530 That's Althea and Donna with Uptown Top Ranking. 01:04:26.690 --> 01:04:29.853 That's got to be one of the greatest one-hit wonders of all time, wouldn't you think? 01:04:29.873 --> 01:04:30.374 From 1978. 01:04:30.714 --> 01:04:34.117 Yeah, it certainly gets a lot of airplay, doesn't it? 01:04:34.358 --> 01:04:37.481 And it always sounds brilliant every time it's played. 01:04:37.681 --> 01:04:38.602 Sounds fresh, though. 01:04:38.722 --> 01:04:39.623 Yeah, it does. 01:04:39.863 --> 01:04:44.568 They're like the Mel and Kim for the 70s. 01:04:45.088 --> 01:04:45.789 Mel and Kim. 01:04:45.809 --> 01:04:47.951 They're better useless association. 01:04:49.352 --> 01:04:52.294 This is Adam and Jo on BBC Six Music. 01:04:52.474 --> 01:05:09.285 If you were listening to the whole show, you'll know that earlier Adam played some tracks from Van Morrison's contractual obligation album, an album of hastily made up rants that he... Which I don't think was released at the time, which was 1967, but it's since found its way onto the internet. 01:05:09.605 --> 01:05:15.249 But we promised that later in the show, which it is now, we would try some of our own similar songs. 01:05:15.409 --> 01:05:23.294 I'm just a bit worried that away from the white heat of that link, where the context was very clear, this might not work. 01:05:23.714 --> 01:05:26.676 Well, let's just remind ourselves of one of Van's songs. 01:05:27.397 --> 01:05:30.899 Let's just play a little bit of Ringworm again, Ben, if we could. 01:05:35.622 --> 01:05:37.143 I can see by the look on your face. 01:05:40.100 --> 01:05:41.501 That you've got ringworm. 01:05:41.521 --> 01:05:43.262 There you go, that's more or less it. 01:05:44.162 --> 01:05:46.104 It's just bad talking about it. 01:05:46.464 --> 01:05:48.925 And later on he says... Aim high, huh? 01:05:48.945 --> 01:05:52.788 There's worse... Actually, you should be pleased that you've got ringworm. 01:05:52.828 --> 01:05:54.128 It could have been something worse. 01:05:54.569 --> 01:06:05.455 So as a kind of space-filling song wars for this week, we have decided that we're going to sing slightly vitriolic songs about one another that are made up on the spot, right? 01:06:05.515 --> 01:06:06.516 You're going to go first, Adam. 01:06:06.736 --> 01:06:07.096 Oh, am I? 01:06:07.336 --> 01:06:09.357 Yeah, you're going to sing a song about me. 01:06:09.597 --> 01:06:10.017 Oh, no. 01:06:10.557 --> 01:06:13.038 And you've recently accused me of being haughty. 01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:16.500 When I say recently, I mean in the previous link. 01:06:17.380 --> 01:06:19.141 And I'm clearly quite upset about it. 01:06:19.381 --> 01:06:19.621 Yeah. 01:06:19.861 --> 01:06:23.822 So, unfortunately, you're under contract to me to record an album. 01:06:24.202 --> 01:06:24.463 Right. 01:06:24.923 --> 01:06:28.324 But I've been very haughty about this and held you to it. 01:06:28.424 --> 01:06:29.024 Okay, okay. 01:06:29.204 --> 01:06:34.566 And the tapes are rolling and you're not going to get your money unless you produce some sort of melody and lyrics. 01:06:34.746 --> 01:06:35.467 All right, here we go. 01:06:39.441 --> 01:06:42.286 Oh, long boy, haughty man! 01:06:43.568 --> 01:06:47.173 Oh, so long and superior, haughty man! 01:06:50.526 --> 01:06:51.807 Brilliant, don't you? 01:06:52.107 --> 01:07:00.875 With your clever comments. 01:07:02.176 --> 01:07:03.917 That was... I'm really hurt. 01:07:04.538 --> 01:07:06.459 Well, I was really going for it. 01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:11.103 I've never experienced such unfettered vitriol. 01:07:11.403 --> 01:07:12.404 Was that a bit too much? 01:07:12.805 --> 01:07:13.085 Man. 01:07:13.445 --> 01:07:14.186 I didn't realize. 01:07:14.266 --> 01:07:16.448 No, that was satisfactory. 01:07:16.488 --> 01:07:19.410 I mean, it was a bare minimum, but we will be releasing that. 01:07:19.770 --> 01:07:20.130 Will we? 01:07:20.171 --> 01:07:21.351 But you may have your tenor. 01:07:21.752 --> 01:07:30.078 I mean, we are going to put these songs up for consideration as far as song... Oh, Joe gets the extra mic on his guitar. 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.061 Ben, our producer, has just given me a little extra mic there. 01:07:36.864 --> 01:07:37.745 Those are my chords. 01:07:39.147 --> 01:07:40.489 And what's the subject of my song? 01:07:40.909 --> 01:07:55.186 Okay, so for this one, you've got to be talking about the fact that maybe earlier on in the show, it wasn't such a good idea for me to talk in that sleazy way about the model that I wrote in. 01:07:59.878 --> 01:08:27.196 Your wife and kids are leaving you Cause you're going out with Mariela Frostdrop Not actually Mariela Frostdrop But a woman from the same neck of the woods She's a model that wrote to the show And now you and her go make love in the snow Your wife is very angry Your kids are very sad Your wife is even angrier Since I sang the last bitches got even more mad Happily 01:08:28.342 --> 01:08:35.232 The model is really good looking and the love you're making in the snow is hot and sexy and real cooking. 01:08:36.394 --> 01:08:38.537 That was sort of an upbeat song. 01:08:38.577 --> 01:08:39.218 That was a good song. 01:08:39.258 --> 01:08:40.420 And it was quite erotic. 01:08:40.500 --> 01:08:41.982 Especially off the top of your mind, but I mean... 01:08:43.948 --> 01:08:44.549 What do you mean? 01:08:44.589 --> 01:08:46.371 I'm just a bit worried about Haughty Man now. 01:08:46.391 --> 01:08:48.594 What do you mean? 01:08:48.694 --> 01:08:50.997 Is there any way I can go back and retake Haughty Man? 01:08:51.017 --> 01:08:51.898 You can do another one. 01:08:51.918 --> 01:08:55.923 Let's have some real music first, and if you want to come back and re-do Haughty Man. 01:08:55.943 --> 01:08:59.407 I think I should just move on and let you have the victory this time. 01:08:59.907 --> 01:09:01.249 Now, yes, real music. 01:09:01.469 --> 01:09:04.432 This is TV on the radio with dancing chews. 01:09:04.592 --> 01:09:07.355 That was TV on the radio with dancing chews. 01:09:08.076 --> 01:09:09.237 It's written on my list here. 01:09:09.638 --> 01:09:12.381 Dancing C-H-O-O-S-E. 01:09:12.521 --> 01:09:13.102 Is that right? 01:09:13.122 --> 01:09:14.823 Or is it supposed to be shoes? 01:09:15.424 --> 01:09:17.045 It's supposed to sound like shoes, right? 01:09:17.485 --> 01:09:17.866 S-H. 01:09:18.506 --> 01:09:19.607 How do you spell shoes? 01:09:20.227 --> 01:09:21.088 S-H-O-E-S. 01:09:22.488 --> 01:09:22.969 What is it? 01:09:23.129 --> 01:09:27.592 Well, the band New Shoes, spelled it S-H-O-O-Z. 01:09:28.392 --> 01:09:36.897 Ah, well, dancing shoes is the second single following the album Dear Science, released through the label 4AD on the 23rd of September 2008. 01:09:38.418 --> 01:09:40.359 Now, listeners, this show is pre-recorded. 01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:44.022 We recorded it the day before last Saturday. 01:09:44.722 --> 01:10:06.716 right a week and a day ago yeah is that correct it's the 16th is it today 16th of January and obviously in the past week in the future where you people are currently listening something very exciting has happened in the world the United States of America the most powerful country in the world has got a new president and America's first ever black president a kind of um 01:10:07.316 --> 01:10:19.393 sort of comic book sci-fi style development that you saw in movies and you know stuff like that in Hollywood fantasies has now come true and it's a massively progressive and optimistic and wonderful thing for the world, correct? 01:10:19.986 --> 01:10:21.668 Yeah, until it all goes wrong six months later. 01:10:21.688 --> 01:10:23.831 Are you one of these people that thinks it's all gonna go wrong? 01:10:23.851 --> 01:10:25.393 Do you think the bubble's gonna burst very quickly? 01:10:25.613 --> 01:10:26.674 Well, he's just a man, isn't he? 01:10:27.014 --> 01:10:27.735 With a man's body. 01:10:27.755 --> 01:10:28.356 Whoa. 01:10:28.817 --> 01:10:29.257 Whoa. 01:10:29.457 --> 01:10:31.159 Nothing but a man who can never fail. 01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:31.580 That's right. 01:10:31.820 --> 01:10:33.702 No one but the Purin heart can find the Holy Grail. 01:10:33.903 --> 01:10:34.744 Oh, is that what they say? 01:10:34.764 --> 01:10:35.024 Yeah. 01:10:35.665 --> 01:10:35.805 Ah. 01:10:35.985 --> 01:10:37.287 Find the golden veil. 01:10:37.327 --> 01:10:37.887 That's fash. 01:10:37.907 --> 01:10:38.488 Is that what you thought? 01:10:38.508 --> 01:10:38.648 Yeah. 01:10:39.429 --> 01:10:40.690 I think he's going to fix it all. 01:10:41.230 --> 01:10:41.410 Good. 01:10:41.711 --> 01:10:42.791 Obama will fix it. 01:10:42.811 --> 01:10:44.412 I think he's going to sort out the Middle East. 01:10:44.892 --> 01:10:45.173 Bish. 01:10:45.513 --> 01:10:45.693 Yeah. 01:10:45.913 --> 01:10:48.214 I think he's going to sort out the credit crunch. 01:10:48.314 --> 01:10:48.675 Bash. 01:10:48.755 --> 01:10:49.075 Bash. 01:10:49.495 --> 01:10:54.318 And I think he's going to sort out racism, inner-city violence and all hate. 01:10:54.618 --> 01:10:56.039 And what's he going to do about the Middle East? 01:10:56.700 --> 01:10:57.400 He did that first. 01:10:57.720 --> 01:10:58.140 Oh, Bish. 01:10:58.240 --> 01:10:58.781 That was the Bish. 01:10:58.861 --> 01:10:59.441 Oh, was that the Bish? 01:10:59.601 --> 01:11:00.082 Yeah, wasn't it? 01:11:00.982 --> 01:11:02.363 I've got short-term memory problems. 01:11:02.703 --> 01:11:03.403 I think so. 01:11:03.684 --> 01:11:04.364 We both have. 01:11:04.824 --> 01:11:12.869 Anyway, in celebration of that, here's a bit of hip-hop from Big Daddy Kane, who was a very exciting artist back in the early 90s. 01:11:13.289 --> 01:11:19.433 Me and my lovely lady girlfriend partner went to see him at the Brixton Academy, and it was so exciting, my lovely lady girlfriend fainted. 01:11:19.673 --> 01:11:20.294 Did she actually faint? 01:11:20.314 --> 01:11:24.920 Yeah, and I missed most of the gig because I was, you know, wafting her with various bits of paper. 01:11:26.061 --> 01:11:33.250 But this is Big Daddy Kane from a time when the idea of there being a black president was, as I say, a fantasy notion. 01:11:33.591 --> 01:11:34.872 This is called Ain't No Stuff in Us Now. 01:11:35.919 --> 01:11:43.821 That was LL Cool J with Mama Said Knock You Out, trying to blame the whole knocking out incident on his mama, which is really quite a disgusting thing to do. 01:11:43.841 --> 01:11:47.482 Pretty cowardly behaviour from Cool J. From LL Cool J in 1990. 01:11:48.283 --> 01:11:50.603 Ladies love Cool J, so he says. 01:11:50.663 --> 01:11:55.025 Yeah, even though he knocked that person out in 1990, let's hope the law catches up with him, is what I meant to say. 01:11:55.125 --> 01:11:55.825 Right, right, right. 01:11:55.965 --> 01:11:58.226 This has been Adam and Jo on BBC6 Music. 01:11:58.506 --> 01:12:08.671 It's been a pre-recorded show, so there's no thanks to be given for emails or texts used in the show, but we would like to thank anybody and everyone who's emailed us anyway. 01:12:08.971 --> 01:12:15.974 You can email us anytime, and those emails build up in a wonderful kind of vault, which we will plunder for our next show. 01:12:16.674 --> 01:12:22.977 Next week, we are going to be away proper, and filling in for us will be the multi-talented Danny Wallace. 01:12:23.277 --> 01:12:30.420 Yes, he has recently had a book turned into a Hollywood feature film, The Yes Man starring Jim Carrey, so he's got a lot of money. 01:12:30.440 --> 01:12:34.502 I would have thought the main thing to ask him about would be whether you can have some of that money. 01:12:34.642 --> 01:12:37.043 Yeah, and what kind of gold house he lives in. 01:12:37.063 --> 01:12:39.304 Yeah, and what Jim Carrey's really like. 01:12:39.644 --> 01:12:40.984 What do you think his sidekick is called? 01:12:41.665 --> 01:12:42.305 Little Steph. 01:12:42.725 --> 01:12:44.267 Gromit would have been the correct answer. 01:12:44.487 --> 01:12:44.927 Really? 01:12:46.569 --> 01:12:47.050 Gromit. 01:12:48.531 --> 01:12:53.837 No, I think his sidekick is called Richard, who's a comedian who I used to do some gigs with. 01:12:53.937 --> 01:12:57.380 He was over at one of the Ealing live posse. 01:12:57.601 --> 01:12:59.122 Back in the day, that will mean nothing to anyone. 01:12:59.142 --> 01:13:01.485 He was over at one of the Ealing live posse. 01:13:01.605 --> 01:13:02.606 Is that what I actually said? 01:13:02.626 --> 01:13:03.347 Yes. 01:13:05.889 --> 01:13:06.290 I'm a total disgrace. 01:13:06.310 --> 01:13:13.577 You mean he performed some stand-up at Ealing Live, which is a comedy club in Ealing that he used to go to, and there was a posse of performers there of which he was one. 01:13:13.617 --> 01:13:15.880 Don't be translating, yes Joe, yes. 01:13:16.200 --> 01:13:17.281 Thanks for listening everybody. 01:13:17.301 --> 01:13:20.644 We'll be back with you the week after next, live here on BBC 6 Music. 01:13:20.684 --> 01:13:21.525 We look forward to it. 01:13:21.625 --> 01:13:24.028 Until then, here is more music.