WEBVTT 00:00.249 --> 00:01.810 Alright, you're the only bee in my bonnet. 00:01.850 --> 00:02.750 There's no other bees. 00:02.870 --> 00:03.931 Just stop going on about it. 00:04.111 --> 00:04.591 Happy now? 00:04.791 --> 00:05.872 Yeah, I'm happy. 00:05.932 --> 00:11.134 That's They Might Be Giants with Birdhouse in your soul, kicking us off this Saturday morning. 00:11.174 --> 00:12.575 Hi, this is Adam Buxton. 00:12.895 --> 00:15.956 Hey, this is Joe Cornish, and it's very nice to be with you listeners. 00:15.976 --> 00:17.077 Thanks a lot for tuning in. 00:17.117 --> 00:25.540 We'll be here for another two hours and 55 minutes here on BBC Six Music with some fantastic music. 00:25.841 --> 00:27.641 With some fantastic music. 00:27.701 --> 00:28.402 Is that how I said it? 00:28.482 --> 00:28.602 No! 00:29.102 --> 00:29.202 Oh. 00:29.782 --> 00:33.964 Um, we've got also the amazing result of this week's Song Wars coming up very soon. 00:33.984 --> 00:44.048 We've got a brand new Song Wars, Tex the Nation, plus terrific music in this first hour alone from the likes of Badly Drawn Boy, yeah, Kate Nash, yeah, 00:44.528 --> 00:45.228 Thomas Dolby. 00:45.349 --> 00:46.989 Which, which, oh, is that your Dolby? 00:47.109 --> 00:48.270 Yeah, a bit of Dublin coming up. 00:48.290 --> 00:49.111 Nice bit of Dublin. 00:49.371 --> 00:51.352 Uh, and the water boys. 00:52.032 --> 00:52.813 Is it the whole of the moon? 00:52.833 --> 00:53.673 Oh, it's a session, yeah. 00:54.514 --> 00:55.414 The whole of the moon in session. 00:55.434 --> 00:55.654 Yeah. 00:55.674 --> 00:57.015 That's exactly what I really need. 00:57.655 --> 01:01.257 Um, and then later on, are they playing the hot chip song? 01:01.517 --> 01:03.038 I got obsessed by that song during the week. 01:03.138 --> 01:04.979 I should have asked them if they could put it on the playlist. 01:05.039 --> 01:05.820 I bet it's not on there. 01:06.100 --> 01:06.800 Can't see it, mate. 01:07.061 --> 01:07.721 Oh, and there you go. 01:07.861 --> 01:09.802 Anyway, lots of other good stuff to look forward to, though. 01:10.002 --> 01:11.202 Lots of great chat-chit. 01:11.602 --> 01:12.962 Oh, we love to chat and chit. 01:13.843 --> 01:15.143 So stay tuned, folks. 01:15.203 --> 01:16.083 We love to talk chit. 01:16.423 --> 01:16.823 Certainly. 01:17.124 --> 01:19.664 Right now, here's Morrissey with That's How People Grow Up. 01:19.924 --> 01:22.105 Morrissey with That's How People Grow Up. 01:22.285 --> 01:28.367 I was watching a good program on BBC Four this week about pop, you know, their pop season they have at the moment. 01:29.007 --> 01:31.287 And they had some great interview footage of Morrissey on there. 01:31.307 --> 01:34.908 It was a program all about sexuality in pop, you know, and it was a kind of history. 01:35.128 --> 01:36.489 It seemed to be more or less through the 80s. 01:37.709 --> 01:41.051 of all the different kind of sexy acts. 01:41.591 --> 01:43.992 That's officially when they started bending the genders. 01:44.493 --> 01:45.313 That's right. 01:45.733 --> 01:47.014 The gender benders came out. 01:47.034 --> 01:53.317 Well, they invented a new type of, you know, vice that could actually bend genders. 01:53.497 --> 01:53.977 Yeah. 01:54.478 --> 01:56.179 Oh, that's my favourite vice. 01:56.199 --> 01:56.459 Yeah. 01:57.779 --> 02:00.481 And Morrissey was on there, of course, because he's a sexy man. 02:01.201 --> 02:07.383 They had some great footage of Morrissey being mobbed by male fans, but sort of lads, you know what I mean? 02:07.903 --> 02:15.985 Like people in those kind of checked shirts with scary haircuts that you feel might beat you up if you looked at them the wrong way. 02:16.565 --> 02:18.546 And they're all Morrissey fans and they're jumping out. 02:19.386 --> 02:23.069 Right, but not really rockabilly though, they looked like sort of football thugs. 02:23.130 --> 02:23.390 Right. 02:24.150 --> 02:26.893 Um, you know, not to, uh... Was Morrissey enjoying it? 02:27.213 --> 02:28.434 He seemed to be enjoying it. 02:28.655 --> 02:28.895 Yeah. 02:28.955 --> 02:29.675 Yeah, he liked it. 02:30.496 --> 02:38.944 But it was exactly as if he was, you know, as if they were girls, as if they were sexy girls, but they just happened to be these blood... Does he gender-bend Morrissey? 02:39.204 --> 02:41.025 I think he likes to bend the gend. 02:41.225 --> 02:41.546 Really? 02:41.946 --> 02:43.207 Yeah, a little bit. 02:43.367 --> 02:47.089 He might have a little bit of a crush on a man as well as a lady. 02:47.429 --> 02:49.831 He likes to hold hands with some boys and men. 02:50.051 --> 02:50.471 Does he? 02:50.552 --> 02:51.812 Yeah, not boys. 02:52.533 --> 02:54.854 But you know, this is bad, isn't it? 02:55.054 --> 02:55.835 No, it's good, is it? 02:55.935 --> 02:56.555 That's very good. 02:57.436 --> 02:57.936 It's all good. 02:57.976 --> 02:59.097 Yeah, no, he's gay, Morrissey. 02:59.337 --> 02:59.577 Is he? 02:59.637 --> 03:00.258 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 03:00.718 --> 03:01.078 You know what? 03:01.138 --> 03:01.879 I didn't know that. 03:01.899 --> 03:02.179 No. 03:02.379 --> 03:03.379 Well, that's the thing. 03:03.419 --> 03:05.540 That's why it was part of the programme, you know. 03:05.580 --> 03:08.862 It's not something that's at the forefront of his image, you know what I mean? 03:08.982 --> 03:09.942 No, that's good, isn't it? 03:09.962 --> 03:10.062 Yeah. 03:10.102 --> 03:11.423 He doesn't thrust it in your face. 03:11.903 --> 03:14.865 No, unless you're really friendly with him. 03:15.225 --> 03:19.026 But I saw it as part of the pop season on BBC Four last night. 03:19.347 --> 03:19.947 Spice World. 03:20.707 --> 03:20.867 Mmm. 03:21.247 --> 03:22.328 Now, uh... What a film. 03:22.568 --> 03:23.188 What a film. 03:23.408 --> 03:27.009 And what kind of an excuse is that to put Spice World on BBC Four? 03:27.330 --> 03:28.030 What was the excuse? 03:28.110 --> 03:29.550 Oh, because it's part of the pop season. 03:29.570 --> 03:30.891 Yeah, that's not good enough, is it? 03:30.931 --> 03:31.431 Not really. 03:31.451 --> 03:33.992 You can't have Spice World on BBC Four? 03:34.192 --> 03:35.693 Yeah, that's just not right. 03:35.713 --> 03:39.834 Well, presumably the idea was that it's a sort of insane pileup of pop mess. 03:39.874 --> 03:41.995 Well, that's correct, but it's just awful. 03:42.235 --> 03:43.736 Is there a good bit in Spice World? 03:43.996 --> 03:44.276 No, no. 03:44.296 --> 03:45.936 Like even ironically or in any way? 03:46.016 --> 03:47.497 No, no, no, none, none. 03:47.777 --> 03:48.638 Richard E. Grant's. 03:48.738 --> 03:49.039 No. 03:49.159 --> 03:49.760 Finest moment. 03:49.780 --> 03:49.980 No. 03:50.300 --> 03:50.501 No. 03:50.561 --> 03:50.701 No. 03:50.881 --> 03:52.483 Do you think it's worse than Hudson Hawk? 03:52.623 --> 03:52.844 Yes. 03:53.044 --> 03:53.865 It is much worse. 03:54.025 --> 03:54.446 It's awful. 03:54.466 --> 03:55.467 There's almost nothing there. 03:55.547 --> 03:56.589 Hudson Hawk's not bad. 03:56.729 --> 03:56.949 Yeah. 03:57.129 --> 03:57.690 Have you seen it, man? 03:57.710 --> 03:58.231 It's quite good. 03:58.251 --> 03:58.771 It's quite good. 03:58.832 --> 03:59.012 Yeah. 03:59.369 --> 04:04.273 But yeah, and I was thinking about Morrissey as well, the way to do a Morrissey impression is to just jut your chin out. 04:04.874 --> 04:05.374 Is that it? 04:05.434 --> 04:14.062 And then if you can do the Manchester accent as well and that helps a little bit, but his accent's not that strong, mainly just jut your chin out and then you sound like Morrissey. 04:14.082 --> 04:14.822 That's a good idea. 04:15.423 --> 04:17.385 It's sort of foolproof impressions. 04:17.765 --> 04:19.786 Well, you had a Harry Potter one, didn't you? 04:20.007 --> 04:20.627 Did I? 04:20.947 --> 04:21.908 Yeah, Harry Potter's easy. 04:21.928 --> 04:24.090 You just do a sort of a jimba jaw. 04:24.130 --> 04:25.871 You stick your lower set of teeth out. 04:25.891 --> 04:27.352 That's what I'm doing for Morrissey. 04:27.812 --> 04:29.213 No, this is a much more toothy thing. 04:29.533 --> 04:32.416 You stick them out so they overlap the upper set. 04:32.476 --> 04:34.717 And then you just go, Dumbledore. 04:36.078 --> 04:38.440 And with Morrissey you just go, Manchester. 04:39.464 --> 04:39.985 Easy as that. 04:40.405 --> 04:45.410 There'll be more foolproof impressions, possibly coming up later in the show, but now here's a little bit more music. 04:45.450 --> 04:46.711 This is a free player of yours, is it? 04:46.831 --> 04:53.216 Yeah, I picked this one because Bobby Fischer, the chess genius, died this week, of course, or last week. 04:54.057 --> 04:58.561 And this is a song all about Bobby Fischer, and I never really understood it when I was a young person. 04:58.601 --> 05:00.283 You got me into this album, Prefab Sprout. 05:00.303 --> 05:01.344 Yeah, this is a great album. 05:01.764 --> 05:03.105 I think it's the debut, isn't it? 05:03.125 --> 05:03.305 Swoon. 05:03.325 --> 05:04.886 Yeah, it's that album Swoon. 05:04.966 --> 05:08.589 I bought it, uh, on, like, proper old vinyl, uh, in W.H. 05:08.629 --> 05:10.310 Smith's, in, uh, what's it called? 05:10.330 --> 05:11.911 Sloan Square, on Impulse. 05:11.951 --> 05:12.992 I just like the look of the cover. 05:13.212 --> 05:14.713 Were you wearing Impulse at the time? 05:14.733 --> 05:16.834 Yeah, I was, no, I was on Impulse. 05:16.914 --> 05:19.436 Ooh, like, intravenously injected Impulse. 05:19.596 --> 05:20.176 Jesus. 05:20.957 --> 05:22.378 And this cover really hit the spot. 05:22.438 --> 05:23.679 So, who is it then? 05:23.699 --> 05:24.499 Prefab Sprout with? 05:24.599 --> 05:25.440 Q Fanfare. 05:25.640 --> 05:28.702 Prefab Sprout with Q Fanfare from their first album. 05:31.704 --> 05:39.827 That was a slightly premature jingle there, Ben. 05:41.567 --> 05:45.449 You're not a trainee, but just to save your modesty, I'm going to call you a trainee. 05:45.489 --> 05:47.989 Frankly, that's the level of producing that was going on there. 05:48.009 --> 05:52.391 He prematurely activated his jingle all over the shop. 05:53.452 --> 06:00.740 Because I was going to say how fantastic that song is and how much I think we both here at the Adam and Jo Radio Show love Paddy McElhoo. 06:01.141 --> 06:02.242 And we're not sure where he is. 06:03.023 --> 06:06.327 We think he lives somewhere in the countryside, somewhere a bit remote. 06:06.367 --> 06:07.729 He's got a big bushy beard. 06:09.110 --> 06:10.071 And he's a genius. 06:10.372 --> 06:10.952 That's like me. 06:11.733 --> 06:13.674 He's a bit like you. 06:13.734 --> 06:14.714 Big bushy beard. 06:15.214 --> 06:16.255 Lives in the countryside. 06:16.915 --> 06:19.176 No, I'm not in any way like Paddy McAloon. 06:19.416 --> 06:32.862 We did a TV show years ago where we had a thing that we did with pop stars where we searched through their record collections and we tried to get Paddy McAloon involved in it but he said he didn't want to do it because he didn't like judging other people's work in public. 06:33.422 --> 06:35.523 Which was a very good reason, nothing you can say to that. 06:35.743 --> 06:37.945 Yeah, the club, although we did get Thomas Dolby. 06:38.165 --> 06:40.526 We did, he loves judging other people's work in public. 06:40.666 --> 06:44.528 Yeah, but of course the prefab sprout connection is that he produced them for a few albums. 06:44.548 --> 06:45.469 Dolby produced the sprouts. 06:45.569 --> 06:48.511 So he gave us a lot of good mac-a-loon facts and stories. 06:48.531 --> 06:49.091 Do you remember him? 06:49.111 --> 06:49.471 Yeah. 06:49.711 --> 06:50.012 Do you? 06:50.232 --> 06:51.012 He was a good man. 06:51.212 --> 06:54.234 I've got it all filed away in my happy pop memory box. 06:54.814 --> 06:58.717 Now it's time for song wars of course, as the premature jingle indicated. 06:59.797 --> 07:02.179 And last week, remind me what it was. 07:02.939 --> 07:05.321 Uh, last week's theme was instructional songs for children. 07:05.341 --> 07:05.761 There you go. 07:06.302 --> 07:08.704 And, uh, Adam did one all about brushing your teeth. 07:09.224 --> 07:12.126 I did one, uh, about sort of the difference between right and wrong. 07:12.186 --> 07:13.868 That's right, I'm gonna be beaten this week. 07:14.128 --> 07:15.189 I know for a fact. 07:15.429 --> 07:15.649 Why? 07:15.729 --> 07:18.971 It's not, I'm not saying that in a self-pitying way, I really, I'm not. 07:19.432 --> 07:28.178 I just know, I concede A to the fact that your song was, uh, probably better than mine last week, uh, funnier, more, uh, effort had gone into it. 07:29.079 --> 07:31.160 Mine was about... I was happy with mine. 07:31.180 --> 07:32.460 There were some good harmonies there. 07:32.580 --> 07:38.902 I think it was very good, instructionally, about brushing your teeth and the importance of avoiding dental work. 07:39.722 --> 07:48.044 But, you know, the fact that you were on form, combined with the fact that I lose every week, just bodes badly, I would say. 07:48.444 --> 07:49.625 So shall we announce it? 07:49.725 --> 07:53.066 Well, we've got such a huge amount of emails on Song Wars this week. 07:53.386 --> 07:57.787 I haven't even had a chance to go through them all, really, but here's one or two of them. 07:58.727 --> 08:01.890 Um, Caroline People said, Adam, your song was an improvement. 08:02.171 --> 08:06.095 It sounded a bit like a blur, slowie, if they were to write about toothbrushing. 08:06.115 --> 08:06.775 An improvement? 08:06.995 --> 08:12.641 Is she the one that slagged me up last week about how my song was smacked of ennui and it was too long or something? 08:12.661 --> 08:12.961 I don't know. 08:14.143 --> 08:18.106 But she does say, I feel thoroughly ashamed of myself for being so scornful last week. 08:18.487 --> 08:20.529 I think she was being rude about me last week. 08:20.629 --> 08:22.311 I think she was rude about all of us last week. 08:23.202 --> 08:26.843 Andrew Boniface says it's another vote for Mr. Joe this week, that's very nice. 08:27.183 --> 08:28.323 But both were really great. 08:28.523 --> 08:33.624 Forget all the criticism from those spoiled, unappreciative listeners, Song Wars must continue. 08:33.644 --> 08:38.045 We were threatening to stop Song Wars for a bit last week. 08:38.305 --> 08:39.806 Can we not carry on threatening? 08:40.246 --> 08:41.326 We can carry on threatening. 08:41.726 --> 08:47.327 Fiona Denny says, please don't stop Song Wars, even though its popularity hasn't been validated by a BBC survey. 08:47.667 --> 08:48.047 I love it. 08:48.867 --> 08:50.028 Yeah, that was very nice. 08:50.208 --> 08:50.608 That was good. 08:50.968 --> 08:51.148 Yeah. 08:51.388 --> 08:52.589 Well, shall we announce the winner then? 08:52.809 --> 08:53.210 Alright then. 08:53.250 --> 08:54.210 What were you gonna say? 08:54.230 --> 08:57.673 We should have a kind of jingle for this, shouldn't we, to give it more excitement? 08:58.053 --> 08:58.974 We did have a jingle. 08:59.014 --> 09:00.455 It was part of the Star Wars thing. 09:00.475 --> 09:02.617 It was the dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. 09:02.777 --> 09:03.858 Is that not loaded then? 09:03.938 --> 09:05.019 I don't know if it's still loaded. 09:05.059 --> 09:07.140 We sort of abandoned the whole Star Wars check. 09:07.501 --> 09:08.181 Fairly early on. 09:08.241 --> 09:08.962 Okay, here we go. 09:09.222 --> 09:09.822 That's good though. 09:09.863 --> 09:11.844 The sound of you just ripping that is exciting. 09:13.165 --> 09:13.545 Oh dear. 09:14.571 --> 09:15.232 Oh, shut up. 09:15.932 --> 09:16.433 Oh, dear. 09:16.633 --> 09:17.113 What's that? 09:17.133 --> 09:17.113 3%? 09:17.213 --> 09:18.274 Does it say 3%? 09:18.795 --> 09:20.236 Let's put it this way. 09:20.536 --> 09:21.297 One of us has got 3%. 09:22.918 --> 09:23.399 What? 09:24.160 --> 09:25.180 The other one's got 97%. 09:26.001 --> 09:26.602 Look, come on. 09:26.722 --> 09:29.865 In this situation... We need to find those votes. 09:30.145 --> 09:33.067 Well, in this situation, I want to have proof. 09:33.448 --> 09:36.290 How many votes did we actually get in? 09:36.370 --> 09:37.031 Yeah, okay. 09:37.051 --> 09:39.133 Are we talking 15 votes here? 09:39.153 --> 09:40.574 In which case I can live with that. 09:40.714 --> 09:46.575 While we play the winning song, we'll get some more, sort of a more accurate statistical breakdown of exactly what's happened. 09:46.595 --> 09:57.698 Because while I can see that the toothpaste brush song, which was mine, was maybe not as good as yours, it was not 3% rubbish, all right? 09:58.198 --> 10:00.219 So I want some facts now, okay? 10:00.259 --> 10:01.539 Because this is getting ludicrous. 10:01.659 --> 10:03.039 Anyway, let's hear the winning song. 10:03.920 --> 10:04.940 Joe, would you like to introduce this? 10:04.960 --> 10:06.400 Yeah, this is the right and wrong song. 10:06.420 --> 10:09.101 It's about how to tell the difference between right and wrong. 10:23.172 --> 10:24.954 Is it right to join a gang? 10:24.974 --> 10:27.196 Is it right to kill a man? 10:27.576 --> 10:29.277 Is it right to buy a gun? 10:29.397 --> 10:30.759 Is stabbing people fun? 10:31.139 --> 10:33.381 It's wrong! 10:33.481 --> 10:35.843 This is all about right and wrong! 10:35.943 --> 10:37.724 The first things are wrong! 10:37.844 --> 10:40.587 This is all about right and wrong! 10:40.667 --> 10:42.468 Is it right to read and write? 10:42.869 --> 10:44.650 Is it right to be polite? 10:45.051 --> 10:46.852 Is it right to work at school? 10:46.892 --> 10:48.053 Don't ever play the fool! 10:48.073 --> 10:48.373 It's wrong! 10:48.513 --> 10:51.396 This is all about right and wrong! 10:53.143 --> 10:55.184 Those things are right. 10:55.324 --> 10:58.044 This is a song about wrong and right. 10:58.084 --> 10:59.885 Is it right to have a smoke? 11:00.245 --> 11:02.105 Light a split force and have some coke? 11:02.505 --> 11:04.226 Is it right to deal crack? 11:04.286 --> 11:05.786 There's nothing wrong with that. 11:06.006 --> 11:08.287 It's wrong. 11:08.387 --> 11:10.547 This is a song about right and wrong. 11:10.647 --> 11:12.648 And those things are right. 11:12.768 --> 11:13.748 This is a song about right and wrong. 11:15.518 --> 11:17.439 Is it right to sit up straight? 11:17.759 --> 11:19.500 Is it right to clean your plate? 11:19.920 --> 11:21.701 Is it right to clean your room? 11:21.801 --> 11:23.181 Learn facts about the moon. 11:23.502 --> 11:25.402 It's right. 11:25.442 --> 11:28.224 This is a song about Ron and Wright. 11:28.324 --> 11:30.085 Those things are right. 11:30.225 --> 11:32.966 This is a song about Ron and Wright. 11:33.026 --> 11:34.847 Is it right to happy slap? 11:35.247 --> 11:37.028 Is it right to black, black, black? 11:37.408 --> 11:39.169 Is it right to trash your place? 11:39.269 --> 11:40.769 Put your party on my space. 11:40.929 --> 11:42.150 It's right. 11:57.498 --> 12:06.301 Well, we've consulted, and apparently there were about, there were 37 votes for Joe's song, and there were four for mine. 12:06.321 --> 12:08.122 I thought she said 60 votes overall. 12:08.442 --> 12:08.622 No. 12:08.862 --> 12:10.243 And on the text as well. 12:10.283 --> 12:10.903 Was that right? 12:10.923 --> 12:11.083 What? 12:11.123 --> 12:12.603 So 60 included texts as well? 12:12.643 --> 12:13.564 Yeah, some texts as well. 12:14.281 --> 12:14.661 Thanks, Ben. 12:14.901 --> 12:15.402 Well, she said 37. 12:15.462 --> 12:17.843 Why are you trying to increase your number even now? 12:17.863 --> 12:19.804 I'm just trying to make it sound as if more people vote. 12:20.705 --> 12:22.626 To make the show sound bigger and more exciting. 12:23.087 --> 12:24.027 Don't worry about that. 12:24.367 --> 12:27.849 What I'm worried about is why I'm wasting my time doing a song each week. 12:28.290 --> 12:30.931 Your songs in the past have been superb. 12:31.051 --> 12:33.453 That was a good toothpaste brush song. 12:33.473 --> 12:34.694 You know where I think it might have... 12:35.194 --> 12:42.056 You know, it's very ignoble of me to say, but I think maybe you shouldn't have used the same backing track as the Meatball song. 12:42.356 --> 12:46.977 You've used similar tracks that I've used before, and you've won on them? 12:48.417 --> 12:49.037 Well, I don't know. 12:49.097 --> 12:50.538 It's very tricky, isn't it? 12:50.598 --> 12:53.438 Maybe some people are confused about which of us is which. 12:53.839 --> 12:54.339 Yeah. 12:54.419 --> 12:58.480 For instance, David Slater sends an email that says, this week I vote for Joe. 12:58.980 --> 13:03.801 I was impressed with his production, although I believe children should make up their own minds about euthanasia. 13:04.281 --> 13:06.363 And so suggest the line, Is it right to kill a man? 13:06.403 --> 13:09.165 Be changed to, Is it right to kill a man who doesn't want to die? 13:09.405 --> 13:11.347 Or something similar for the full release version. 13:11.367 --> 13:12.307 That's fair enough, isn't it? 13:12.387 --> 13:13.128 That's a fair point. 13:13.668 --> 13:16.230 I also like Joe's Thumbs Down webcast. 13:17.031 --> 13:17.331 Right. 13:17.451 --> 13:18.893 He's confusing me with you. 13:18.953 --> 13:20.394 He thinks I did the radio head stuff. 13:20.414 --> 13:23.836 Every single good thing that happens is basically Joe's. 13:24.377 --> 13:29.501 I also saw a video with Adam that was good, where he was on Richard and Judy's You Say We Pay. 13:30.181 --> 13:32.683 So he's confusing lots of things you've done with me. 13:32.984 --> 13:33.204 Yeah. 13:33.664 --> 13:35.305 And I think that happens to us quite a lot. 13:35.386 --> 13:39.569 Sometimes we get invited on shows and they've clearly invited the other person. 13:40.089 --> 13:42.571 They look a bit disappointed when they see, you know? 13:42.611 --> 13:43.532 Does that ever happen to you? 13:43.933 --> 13:46.655 So maybe that's what's... Let's say that's it. 13:47.035 --> 13:49.657 So Song Wars... I'm calling for a Song Wars sabbatical. 13:49.877 --> 13:50.218 Really? 13:50.318 --> 13:51.419 That sealed it as well. 13:51.639 --> 13:52.379 That one. 13:52.439 --> 13:53.500 That is a kick in the face. 13:53.520 --> 13:56.323 That should make you want to, you know, do even better. 13:57.097 --> 13:57.718 No, it doesn't. 13:57.758 --> 13:58.858 It makes me want to have a break. 13:59.399 --> 13:59.739 Really? 13:59.779 --> 13:59.999 Yeah. 14:00.179 --> 14:02.221 For at least, I would say, one month. 14:02.721 --> 14:03.742 Song Wars sabbatical. 14:04.102 --> 14:04.402 Really? 14:04.482 --> 14:05.523 I thought you would be up for that. 14:06.183 --> 14:06.704 Uh, I don't know. 14:06.744 --> 14:07.504 I quite enjoy it. 14:07.984 --> 14:08.385 Yeah. 14:08.825 --> 14:11.086 You were complaining before Christmas that it was too much. 14:11.667 --> 14:14.249 Uh, let's have a little chat about it during the next song, maybe. 14:14.409 --> 14:14.829 Song chat. 14:15.049 --> 14:17.671 But, you know, thanks for everybody who voted Song Wars. 14:17.691 --> 14:18.351 Yeah, thanks. 14:18.391 --> 14:18.892 Thanks a lot. 14:18.912 --> 14:20.052 Now, look what you've done listening. 14:20.072 --> 14:20.813 Thank you. 14:20.953 --> 14:21.874 Look what you've done. 14:21.934 --> 14:23.235 Thanks, four people. 14:24.095 --> 14:25.636 Sincere thanks to four people. 14:25.896 --> 14:26.677 The rest of you. 14:27.418 --> 14:31.422 I would happily fight you with my hands. 14:32.243 --> 14:34.946 Here's Adam in the Ants after a trail. 14:35.086 --> 14:37.069 Oh no, it's just straight Adam in the Ants. 14:38.851 --> 14:41.153 Adam in the Ants with Xerox. 14:41.574 --> 14:43.776 He was pronouncing it Xerox-moshine there. 14:44.580 --> 14:44.880 Really? 14:45.020 --> 14:46.621 Xerox machine! 14:46.861 --> 14:49.543 That's like an emotion machine, a machine. 14:51.003 --> 14:53.585 Yeah, he gets very emotionally involved when he photocopies. 14:53.845 --> 14:55.966 What was Adam and the ant's trademark, would you say? 14:55.986 --> 15:00.768 Their trademark was, well, his trademark was the white stripe across the cheekbones and nose. 15:00.788 --> 15:00.988 Yeah. 15:01.148 --> 15:03.850 Even though that was just one part of his, one of his many looks. 15:04.230 --> 15:04.490 Yeah. 15:04.510 --> 15:05.430 But it was the best one, wasn't it? 15:05.450 --> 15:08.152 Did that remain constant through all of his different looks? 15:08.252 --> 15:08.652 Did he have? 15:08.892 --> 15:10.693 It went through a few of them, but then he changed. 15:10.713 --> 15:12.534 Like when he was the spaceman, do you remember when there was the spare thing? 15:12.694 --> 15:14.115 Yeah, yeah, I like that song. 15:14.155 --> 15:14.495 Apollo 9. 15:14.675 --> 15:15.115 Yeah. 15:15.155 --> 15:15.876 That was a good song. 15:16.276 --> 15:23.959 And then he was, well, yeah, he was, because he had the stripe through the sort of pirate phase and through the dandy phase as well, didn't he? 15:24.039 --> 15:25.220 The Prince Charming phase. 15:25.440 --> 15:29.762 We might be talking about Popstar's sort of physical copyright ideas. 15:29.802 --> 15:30.282 Trademarks. 15:30.302 --> 15:31.463 Trademarks, yeah, a bit later. 15:31.963 --> 15:54.591 protects the nation might not haven't really decided yet listen just to just to dally on the song wars thing for a tiny bit longer here's an email from Lily Elbra aka Queen Latifah I'll read this in full it's not very long Adam I do not mean to hurt your feelings if truth be told I would rather vote for you joke and be quite smug but I cannot ignore your lack of effort week after week you shouldn't have put that Lily 15:55.371 --> 15:58.452 It is with heavy heart that once again I have to give my back into Joe's song. 15:58.732 --> 16:04.134 I hope this folk will not fill you with despondency, but instead motivate you to seize the challenge of next week's wars. 16:04.494 --> 16:05.894 I know you have it in you. 16:06.155 --> 16:07.655 She actually says, I know you have it on you. 16:08.115 --> 16:12.076 I know you have it in you to create a truly inspirational piece of music. 16:12.216 --> 16:17.898 After all, look back at your triumph with the hours, perhaps the best Song Wars song of all time. 16:18.198 --> 16:19.639 Come on, Adam, you can do it. 16:20.399 --> 16:23.500 Well, I'm not going to respond to that just at the moment. 16:24.261 --> 16:25.581 I might respond to it later on. 16:25.841 --> 16:27.822 But right now, here's the news read by Nicky. 16:28.062 --> 16:34.765 Now, I was listening quite carefully to the second half of that song because, to be honest, my alarm bells went off there. 16:34.785 --> 16:35.885 Adam, are you listening? 16:36.125 --> 16:36.346 I am. 16:36.386 --> 16:38.306 I'm looking at the lyrics online for that song. 16:38.346 --> 16:38.426 Yeah. 16:38.667 --> 16:42.068 All I want to do is gunshot, gunshot, gunshot, and take your money. 16:42.748 --> 16:46.570 Then she says, some are murder, some are murder, some are Lego. 16:47.350 --> 17:07.949 Yeah, as if murder is a children just did she not listen to my song as if murders like a game for children Yeah, you know, I know we're both quite old listeners But I think that song might have stepped across the line you reckon I'm trying to find the lyrics I think it's ink just encouraging kids to to hold up shops and then come steal Lego, right? 17:09.310 --> 17:12.392 Well, it's putting murder on the same level as a little game of Lego. 17:12.472 --> 17:13.153 Lego Wars. 17:13.253 --> 17:20.777 You know, and it's all very well being ironic and tongue-in-cheek and all that, but there are some people out there that don't have the mental capacity to understand. 17:20.797 --> 17:21.378 Ooh. 17:21.938 --> 17:22.839 Ironism, there are. 17:23.379 --> 17:24.920 Well, the thing is... Little kids, for instance. 17:24.940 --> 17:26.461 You can't, as soon as you start... 17:26.561 --> 17:28.242 It's, uh, talking like that, though, isn't it? 17:28.262 --> 17:29.143 You're in trouble, aren't you? 17:29.303 --> 17:29.723 I know. 17:29.744 --> 17:31.485 But, uh, I've got the lyrics here. 17:31.525 --> 17:34.487 I fly like a paper plane, get high like planes. 17:34.868 --> 17:37.269 Now that's irresponsible for a current drug use. 17:37.650 --> 17:39.611 And irresponsible flying without a license. 17:39.671 --> 17:40.812 Irresponsible flying? 17:40.832 --> 17:42.313 You know, Alex James would never do that. 17:42.353 --> 17:42.514 Nope. 17:42.814 --> 17:43.574 Or Gary Newman. 17:44.395 --> 17:46.477 They've done proper training for flying like planes. 17:46.937 --> 18:07.251 catch me at the border i got visas in my name if you come around one visa that's totally legal you're not allowed to do that no that's all right she could have visas for different countries oh really if she's got the paperwork if she's made the proper application that's not a problem plopper plopper if it's plopper that's fine it's not probably she's done it plopper if you come around here i'll make them all day 18:08.132 --> 18:10.434 I'll get one done in a second if you wait. 18:10.734 --> 18:12.255 So she's talking about paper planes now. 18:12.295 --> 18:13.256 She's making paper planes. 18:13.276 --> 18:13.636 Oh, is she? 18:13.737 --> 18:14.817 Yeah, yeah, that's nice. 18:15.278 --> 18:17.379 So this is, at the moment, all about paper planes. 18:17.580 --> 18:20.322 Sometimes I think sitting on trains. 18:21.222 --> 18:23.604 Oh, sometimes I think sitting on trains while I'm sitting on trains. 18:23.624 --> 18:24.105 Yeah, fair enough. 18:24.285 --> 18:28.008 Every time, every stop I get to, I'm clocking that game. 18:28.508 --> 18:29.328 Everyone's a winner. 18:29.688 --> 18:30.769 We're making our fame. 18:31.149 --> 18:33.529 Bonafide Hustler, making my name. 18:33.829 --> 18:38.791 Chorus, all I wanna do, bang, bang, bang, bang, and uh, click- Are you sure she's making paper planes? 18:39.011 --> 18:40.511 She's not making something else out of paper. 18:40.811 --> 18:41.711 I don't think so. 18:41.951 --> 18:43.372 What would she be, a big fat doobie? 18:43.572 --> 18:43.812 Yeah. 18:44.152 --> 18:45.532 Oh, maybe she is, I don't know. 18:45.572 --> 18:49.013 She might be shotting food, as they say. 18:49.153 --> 18:50.194 Ooh, is that what the kids say? 18:50.214 --> 18:50.694 Yeah, the crow. 18:50.714 --> 18:51.774 The crow's got the stuff. 18:52.194 --> 18:52.914 Shot the crow! 18:53.234 --> 18:53.834 The ching chong! 18:54.635 --> 18:58.436 All I want to do bang bang bang bang and a click ching and take your money. 18:59.036 --> 18:59.856 So that's the chorus. 19:00.216 --> 19:01.536 Pirate skulls and bones. 19:01.836 --> 19:02.717 Sticky stones. 19:02.857 --> 19:03.077 Pirate! 19:03.437 --> 19:04.797 And weed and bombs. 19:05.037 --> 19:05.537 Oh dear. 19:05.777 --> 19:06.998 Running when we hit them. 19:07.418 --> 19:09.318 A lethal poison ponde system. 19:09.338 --> 19:11.339 Right let's have that off the playlist please Ben. 19:11.359 --> 19:12.039 That's a disgrace. 19:12.099 --> 19:14.679 That shouldn't sully Six Musics Airways. 19:14.739 --> 19:18.440 It's a very tuneful song but just irresponsible and a bad influence. 19:18.480 --> 19:20.641 No one on the corner had swag like us. 19:21.441 --> 19:28.988 Hit me on, hit me on up on a, hit me on, hit me on up on a prepaid wireless. 19:29.129 --> 19:29.409 What? 19:29.429 --> 19:30.850 Disgusting. 19:30.910 --> 19:31.411 Disgusting. 19:31.431 --> 19:32.652 She's prepaid for the wireless. 19:33.012 --> 19:35.214 We pack and deliver like UPS trucks. 19:35.274 --> 19:36.055 Oh, she's got a job now. 19:36.195 --> 19:37.416 Already going to hell. 19:37.637 --> 19:38.918 Just pumping that gas. 19:39.198 --> 19:41.720 She just, it's, oh, she's... 19:42.601 --> 19:44.123 Highly irresponsible good song. 19:44.163 --> 19:45.085 This is disgusting. 19:45.105 --> 19:52.835 Let's clear the air with a sample that sample was Straight to hell wasn't it the clash very entertaining you saw yes. 19:52.895 --> 19:58.924 Well very good song yeah, but totally irresponsible No, that's like poison with with sugar on it exactly vice versa 19:59.264 --> 20:05.128 Here's Thomas Dolby from the 1830s with a track called Europa and the Pirate Twins. 20:05.148 --> 20:06.389 This doesn't sound good next to mine. 20:06.409 --> 20:11.653 Yeah, this is a nice little story from the 80s when all people cared about was their trousers. 20:12.074 --> 20:13.855 Thomas Dolby with Europa and the Pirate Twins. 20:13.875 --> 20:16.077 This is Adam and Jo on BBC Six Music. 20:16.457 --> 20:24.042 That used to be the theme tune for a BBC radio show called B-15, if I recall correctly, which came from studio B-15. 20:24.103 --> 20:24.663 Am I insane? 20:27.104 --> 20:28.705 And they'd use the opening bars of that song. 20:28.745 --> 20:31.706 Maybe some nerd out there can correct me if I'm wrong. 20:31.886 --> 20:33.647 Yeah, we're big fans of Dolby. 20:33.747 --> 20:34.427 I love Dolby. 20:34.447 --> 20:37.988 Yeah, he's the man he claims at least to have invented the synthesizer. 20:38.328 --> 20:38.708 Does he? 20:39.048 --> 20:39.689 No, he never does. 20:39.749 --> 20:41.269 Or maybe some people claim it for him. 20:41.949 --> 20:48.192 He may have popularized Synth Pop, but Robert Moog was the inventor of the... Really? 20:48.212 --> 20:49.772 The father of modern synthesizer music. 20:49.792 --> 20:51.773 He probably invented some components of it. 20:52.353 --> 20:52.733 Maybe. 20:52.753 --> 20:53.554 Some new sounds? 20:53.634 --> 20:59.379 Yeah, well, certainly his parents were part of the Dolby Laboratories, weren't they? 20:59.579 --> 21:00.299 I've no idea. 21:00.399 --> 21:01.120 I think they were. 21:01.140 --> 21:05.263 I think there is a connection with Dolby System Sound and Thomas Dolby. 21:05.684 --> 21:06.084 Wowza. 21:06.524 --> 21:15.331 Hey, listen, listeners, it's now time for the nation's favourite feature, the greatest and cleverest feature in the world. 21:15.391 --> 21:20.055 It's complicated, so get your thinking caps on while we explain exactly what happens. 21:20.375 --> 21:21.076 But first of all, 21:21.656 --> 21:22.538 Uh, here's the jingle. 21:23.119 --> 21:24.962 What if I don't want to? 21:25.243 --> 21:26.666 But I'm using email. 21:26.706 --> 21:27.647 Is that a problem? 21:35.865 --> 21:37.206 Yes, it's Text the Nation time. 21:37.626 --> 21:45.149 This is the part of the show where we ask you a thing and you text us what things, what you think of in answer. 21:45.169 --> 21:46.309 Yeah, but here's the thing. 21:46.589 --> 21:51.551 Once they text us, we read some of them out on the radio. 21:51.611 --> 21:52.231 Is that loud? 21:52.492 --> 21:52.652 Yeah. 21:53.692 --> 22:08.880 yeah okay so do you get that listeners uh and this week's subject for text the nation is uh what's it going to be well uh it was your idea it was i don't know how to put it pithily but it's kind of pop star trademarks yeah and um you know maybe 22:09.460 --> 22:12.981 as well as your favorite ones, for example, Bowie's eyes. 22:13.001 --> 22:16.201 We should explain what we mean by pop stars, a trademark. 22:16.542 --> 22:21.703 Some pop stars, usually really famous ones, have a visual trademark. 22:21.843 --> 22:22.823 Physical gimmick, maybe. 22:22.843 --> 22:23.603 A physical gimmick. 22:23.623 --> 22:25.764 But if you're very lucky... It's a natural one. 22:25.844 --> 22:26.744 It's a natural one. 22:27.224 --> 22:33.105 Bowie's multi-coloured eyes, Tom York, he's got what's going on with his eyes. 22:33.205 --> 22:36.566 I don't know, I think he's got a slightly lazy eye with all due respect. 22:36.946 --> 22:37.607 Yeah, I'm not sure. 22:37.627 --> 22:38.708 Something brilliant's going on. 22:38.928 --> 22:41.050 I think whether it's from an illness or I don't know why. 22:41.070 --> 22:47.755 He might be self-conscious about it, but as far as I'm concerned, it gives him this brilliant mystique and makes him seem even more brilliant. 22:48.036 --> 22:55.522 So if you're very lucky as a pop star, you might have some kind of amazing physical kink speciality kind of thing. 22:55.902 --> 22:59.926 If you're not so lucky and you haven't got this genetically, you have to kind of invent it. 23:00.126 --> 23:05.768 Right, so you end up with Amy Winehouse's beehive, or Grace Jones's plaster in the 80s. 23:05.788 --> 23:07.509 Didn't she used to have a really cool plaster? 23:07.529 --> 23:10.790 Yeah, or maybe she, was she one of the first people to shave a section of her eyebrow? 23:11.030 --> 23:11.450 Possibly. 23:11.470 --> 23:12.250 Maybe I'm imagining that. 23:12.270 --> 23:12.711 Possibly. 23:13.391 --> 23:16.532 If you're Adam Ant, obviously, you've got the stripe going across the nose. 23:16.932 --> 23:21.637 We'd like to know, listeners, what your physical trademark would be if you were a pop star. 23:21.937 --> 23:23.659 And this is an area where you've got to innovate. 23:23.679 --> 23:25.941 You know, pop's been going on for a very long time. 23:26.782 --> 23:28.624 A lot of the most obvious ones have been used. 23:29.044 --> 23:30.826 So try and think outside the box. 23:31.066 --> 23:34.370 Something that you could walk on stage with and people would immediately go, 23:35.950 --> 23:37.391 That person's interesting. 23:37.451 --> 23:37.731 Yeah. 23:37.851 --> 23:39.071 Even if they sound rubbish. 23:39.391 --> 23:39.871 That's right. 23:39.911 --> 23:42.632 That's what I need, you see, to revitalize myself. 23:42.672 --> 23:45.893 The song was, I need some... But it's no good on the radio, obviously, is it? 23:46.013 --> 23:49.174 If you're a seal, had those kind of scars, didn't it? 23:49.234 --> 23:49.594 Did they? 23:50.014 --> 23:50.755 Scarred cheeks? 23:51.075 --> 23:51.395 Yeah. 23:51.535 --> 23:52.515 Yeah, Ben's nodding. 23:52.895 --> 23:54.436 I never understood what the deal was. 23:54.616 --> 23:58.057 Was that from having, you know, what's it called? 23:59.457 --> 24:05.101 Well, some skin condition, acne, severe acne, or, uh, I don't know, we can find out. 24:05.361 --> 24:05.562 Yeah. 24:05.742 --> 24:06.622 In the case of seal. 24:06.742 --> 24:07.463 Okay, let's find out. 24:07.483 --> 24:08.103 So text us. 24:08.143 --> 24:09.224 What's the text number there? 24:09.444 --> 24:11.606 Um, oh, it's six four zero four six. 24:12.086 --> 24:16.570 So text six four zero four six with your idea for life, uh, physical trademark. 24:16.610 --> 24:22.474 My physical trademark would be, uh, that I'm quite short and a little, a little chubby. 24:22.754 --> 24:27.217 I think you should have, uh, I think you should get your feet made extra hairy. 24:28.057 --> 24:28.818 Like a hobbit. 24:29.578 --> 24:30.879 You're capitalised on what you've got already. 24:30.899 --> 24:34.302 Yeah, go to a plastic surgeon and get them, get them beaten up a bit. 24:34.862 --> 24:36.503 Yeah, well that's the way to go, isn't it? 24:36.563 --> 24:37.684 Object them so they're hairy. 24:37.744 --> 24:40.686 If you're gonna, if you're gonna, um, really make a success of yourself. 24:40.706 --> 24:41.566 I'd be made taller. 24:41.886 --> 24:43.948 I was gonna say, yeah, we could beat you on stilts. 24:43.968 --> 24:45.769 I'd go on a rat. 24:45.789 --> 24:46.409 That would be good. 24:46.870 --> 24:48.331 You'd be staggering about on stilts. 24:48.711 --> 24:50.352 What would your stage name be though? 24:51.592 --> 24:52.152 I don't know. 24:52.972 --> 24:53.553 Joe Longthorn. 24:53.833 --> 24:54.453 Joe Longthorn. 24:54.573 --> 24:54.793 Yeah. 24:56.053 --> 24:57.873 I do a weak comedy act. 24:58.093 --> 24:59.033 A very strong comedy act. 24:59.874 --> 25:07.695 So text 64046 if you can add other things to the package like the name, type of song you'd sing, other items of clothing. 25:07.935 --> 25:12.336 You know, we want a really good set of ideas for a new, you know, pop look. 25:12.576 --> 25:15.356 Malcolm McLaren used to be brilliant at doing this, right? 25:15.736 --> 25:19.877 He used to come up with the kind of costume and the image before he came up with the star. 25:20.237 --> 25:20.397 Uh-huh. 25:20.457 --> 25:23.179 Right, he came up with the idea of pirates for Adam and the Ants. 25:23.259 --> 25:23.840 That's right. 25:24.080 --> 25:24.300 Right. 25:24.320 --> 25:25.921 The Burundi drummers and all that stuff. 25:25.941 --> 25:26.082 Yeah. 25:26.102 --> 25:26.182 Yeah. 25:26.382 --> 25:26.642 Yeah. 25:26.882 --> 25:28.683 And what did he come up with for Bow Wow Wow? 25:28.703 --> 25:29.404 What was that image? 25:29.724 --> 25:30.245 Nakedness. 25:30.345 --> 25:31.786 Just a very young girl, naked. 25:31.806 --> 25:32.146 Just nudity. 25:32.386 --> 25:32.606 Yeah. 25:33.147 --> 25:33.907 That's a picnic. 25:34.248 --> 25:35.849 And hey, who wouldn't like that? 25:36.218 --> 25:36.919 No, exactly. 25:37.079 --> 25:37.839 That was very nice. 25:37.919 --> 25:39.360 Annabella Lewin, was she called? 25:39.541 --> 25:40.561 Something along those lines. 25:41.022 --> 25:41.802 Yeah, what was her? 25:41.842 --> 25:44.444 I mean, she, that was sort of scandalous at the time, wasn't it? 25:44.544 --> 25:45.485 She was really young. 25:45.785 --> 25:49.648 It was a reference to Le Dégionet, sur l'herbe, to l'herbe. 25:49.868 --> 25:50.529 Parrenoir. 25:51.169 --> 25:51.950 Oh, Renoir. 25:52.590 --> 25:54.051 I love Renoir. 25:54.271 --> 25:55.512 I don't like him so much. 25:55.532 --> 25:56.973 Why don't you like him? 25:57.053 --> 25:59.355 His latest paintings are not very good. 25:59.635 --> 26:01.217 I love all of the Renoir. 26:01.937 --> 26:03.657 Ugh, they get me excited! 26:03.977 --> 26:07.058 So, oh... Here's a session track from The Water Boys. 26:07.098 --> 26:08.278 This is called The Hole of the Moon. 26:08.458 --> 26:10.799 There we go, The Water Boys with The Hole of the Moon. 26:10.839 --> 26:12.159 That's a session track. 26:12.419 --> 26:15.239 That was recorded for Radio 1 on 21st of June 1986. 26:15.439 --> 26:22.241 That must presumably have been very soon after they recorded the actual track, as it sounds almost identical, doesn't it? 26:22.261 --> 26:23.121 Yeah, they're very tight. 26:23.661 --> 26:25.261 They know exactly what to play when. 26:25.921 --> 26:29.842 And Joe is speculating that maybe that song is about a mooning competition. 26:30.122 --> 26:30.182 Mmm. 26:30.882 --> 26:31.422 I think it is. 26:31.483 --> 26:36.006 It's about a man and a woman who kind of fall in love via mooning each other. 26:37.086 --> 26:42.951 And at one stage, they're very young and he gets grounded for mooning, but she moons back and she moves back. 26:42.971 --> 26:44.231 She fills the whole of the sky. 26:44.352 --> 26:48.895 She does, but first of all, she tries it and she goes too high. 26:49.515 --> 26:51.636 He's too fast, too soon. 26:52.056 --> 26:52.316 Yeah. 26:52.556 --> 26:52.836 No, no. 26:52.856 --> 26:54.477 He can't see the whole of the moon. 26:55.277 --> 27:01.460 And then when she gets it right, when she's really got the mooning motion right, he's very impressed and he sees the whole of the moon. 27:01.700 --> 27:02.280 He does. 27:02.440 --> 27:04.701 And then it's, he falls right in there. 27:04.721 --> 27:05.641 He falls right in love with her. 27:05.681 --> 27:07.062 When was that recorded again? 27:08.022 --> 27:10.205 86. 27:08.343 --> 27:10.205 That's a little comedy routine from 86. 27:10.525 --> 27:11.626 There. 27:12.187 --> 27:14.389 Let's send that back in time and maybe someone will find it. 27:14.450 --> 27:16.312 I'm sure no one else has ever said that before. 27:16.332 --> 27:18.834 Now, Adam, you've got some some fact-correcting to do there. 27:19.395 --> 27:22.218 All I ever do is housekeeping, apologising to people. 27:22.599 --> 27:24.701 Sorry I didn't try hard enough and song wars. 27:25.041 --> 27:26.002 Sorry I got this wrong. 27:26.103 --> 27:26.883 Sorry I got that wrong. 27:26.903 --> 27:27.824 That's why everyone loves you. 27:28.365 --> 27:29.666 That's why nobody- They're so human. 27:29.787 --> 27:30.567 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 27:31.128 --> 27:33.991 Um, so yeah, obviously wrong about Thomas Dolby. 27:34.311 --> 27:36.153 Sorry, nothing to do with Dolby laboratory. 27:36.233 --> 27:39.256 And after going on about how many- how much time we spent with him. 27:39.436 --> 27:40.377 Yeah, obviously I forgot everything. 27:40.397 --> 27:41.859 How many great anecdotes- Maybe he was lying to me. 27:41.879 --> 27:46.683 I'm sure I've got it in far away in my pop box that he said he was connected to Dolby. 27:46.703 --> 27:47.985 The Dolby nickname. 27:48.485 --> 27:55.749 excuse me, comes from the name Dolby Laboratories, obviously, and it was given to him by school friends due to his seemingly inseparable relationship with his cassette machine. 27:56.109 --> 28:03.693 Dolby Laboratories were reportedly very displeased with Robertson, his, that's his real name, Thomas Morgan Robertson, during, uh, because of 28:04.193 --> 28:10.616 the fact that he used the company name as his stage name, they tried to sue him and stop him from using the name Dolby entirely. 28:10.676 --> 28:18.619 Eventually the case was settled out of court and it was agreed that he would refrain from using the word Dolby in any context other than with the name Thomas. 28:18.919 --> 28:19.239 Really? 28:19.319 --> 28:19.539 Yeah. 28:20.200 --> 28:24.461 So Dolby Laboratories would be furious to have someone like me clearly confused about it. 28:24.761 --> 28:25.002 Yeah. 28:25.022 --> 28:25.562 Do you know what I mean? 28:25.582 --> 28:29.824 Because then their whole court case just amounts to a hill of buttocks. 28:31.144 --> 28:32.685 I tried to make that difference. 28:32.725 --> 28:33.406 You succeeded. 28:33.566 --> 28:34.086 Well done. 28:34.206 --> 28:34.827 Very well done. 28:34.967 --> 28:40.891 And now, ladies and gentlemen, you might feel a little shiver down your spine because it's the top of the hour. 28:41.091 --> 28:44.633 Ooh, we've got a... Do we call this a sweeper? 28:45.193 --> 28:47.195 Yeah, check it out. 28:47.535 --> 28:49.056 You love Lupe Fiasco, don't you? 28:49.216 --> 28:50.117 I like that track a lot. 28:50.157 --> 28:51.638 I think that's been at number one, hasn't it? 28:52.398 --> 28:52.698 Hasn't it? 28:52.778 --> 28:54.139 I think I've lost track of the charts. 28:54.179 --> 28:55.240 Does anyone keep track of the charts? 28:55.320 --> 28:56.261 Are there charts anymore? 28:56.361 --> 28:56.581 No. 28:56.901 --> 28:57.122 No. 28:57.182 --> 28:58.022 Single's dead, mate. 28:58.222 --> 28:58.803 Single's dead. 28:58.823 --> 29:00.044 Everything's killed in single. 29:00.344 --> 29:05.028 Digitally streamed between teenagers... man bags. 29:05.148 --> 29:08.430 Well, you know, funnily enough, that's the theme of Song Wars this week, isn't it? 29:08.690 --> 29:09.111 That's true. 29:09.131 --> 29:10.391 What is the theme of Song Wars this week? 29:10.432 --> 29:10.732 I forgot. 29:10.892 --> 29:12.013 It's piracy songs. 29:12.273 --> 29:12.773 There we go. 29:12.833 --> 29:13.754 About net piracy. 29:13.934 --> 29:15.735 Illegal downloading and piracy. 29:15.856 --> 29:16.456 Yeah, yeah. 29:16.776 --> 29:19.058 Maybe this is the last Song Wars ever. 29:19.458 --> 29:19.979 Says Adam. 29:19.999 --> 29:20.959 The last one. 29:20.979 --> 29:21.500 Alright. 29:21.980 --> 29:22.220 Ever? 29:22.560 --> 29:22.820 Ever. 29:23.300 --> 29:24.621 Well, for a few weeks at least. 29:24.661 --> 29:32.263 Are you not worried that your anger about song wars will be seen as a kind of grumpy reaction to losing? 29:33.063 --> 29:37.904 Which would be, which would be, you know, extraordinarily bad sportsmanship. 29:38.904 --> 29:44.306 It would be bad losing to a degree that's never been witnessed by mankind. 29:44.466 --> 29:47.887 Well, you see, the thing is, losers would be ashamed of this. 29:49.587 --> 29:52.989 We losers would think, we don't want this loser with us, losers. 29:53.409 --> 29:57.792 But then I would balance that with all the free time I would have. 29:58.152 --> 30:01.994 Because like, for example, this week, how long did it take you to do your song this week? 30:03.095 --> 30:04.976 Uh, let's say four, four hours. 30:05.296 --> 30:05.796 Four hours. 30:05.816 --> 30:06.537 Three or four hours. 30:06.637 --> 30:06.877 Really? 30:07.097 --> 30:07.317 Yeah. 30:07.557 --> 30:08.178 In one session. 30:09.398 --> 30:10.519 Uh, yeah. 30:11.019 --> 30:11.319 Okay. 30:11.820 --> 30:13.681 It took me about two and a half days. 30:14.141 --> 30:15.962 Well, yours is probably a lot better than mine, though. 30:16.082 --> 30:18.683 Yeah, but they usually do take me about two and a half days. 30:18.723 --> 30:21.785 So when I get emails from people saying, you could try harder, do a little better. 30:22.125 --> 30:22.826 You couldn't try harder. 30:22.846 --> 30:26.828 It's galling because I am trying my tits off. 30:27.748 --> 30:29.669 Okay, so let's go through this. 30:29.789 --> 30:33.792 I need some time back and you know, it's not a good arrangement for me. 30:33.812 --> 30:37.835 My worry is if we don't have song wars, there's just going to be a big void in the show. 30:37.975 --> 30:44.719 I can spend two and a half days preparing some material, reading some newspapers, doing things that radio disc jockeys do. 30:44.959 --> 30:47.001 Well, let's see what the listeners have to say about that. 30:48.602 --> 30:49.923 Well, it's not up to the listeners. 30:49.983 --> 30:50.363 Isn't it? 30:50.443 --> 30:51.044 No, it's not. 30:51.224 --> 30:52.645 It's a public service broadcaster. 30:52.665 --> 30:53.506 This is the BBC. 30:53.546 --> 30:56.928 We're not on some trendy London stupid station anymore. 30:56.948 --> 30:57.809 We're working for the public. 30:57.829 --> 30:58.369 No, no, no. 30:58.389 --> 30:59.510 We're working for the Queen. 30:59.590 --> 30:59.850 Wrong. 30:59.950 --> 31:00.891 You're working for the public. 31:00.911 --> 31:01.972 Prince Philip loves this show. 31:02.592 --> 31:02.852 Does he? 31:02.872 --> 31:03.973 He would be furious. 31:04.113 --> 31:05.174 He'll kill you. 31:05.574 --> 31:09.557 Well, if Prince Philip had voted for me in Song Wars, things might be different. 31:09.677 --> 31:11.519 Anyway, shall we play the jingle? 31:11.959 --> 31:14.381 Get ourselves into this week's Song Wars. 31:15.837 --> 31:17.699 It's time for song wars. 31:18.279 --> 31:19.721 The war of the songs. 31:20.341 --> 31:23.644 A couple of tunes by a couple of prongs. 31:23.684 --> 31:24.825 So check it out. 31:24.865 --> 31:32.212 You know, and maybe, maybe the fact that last week's toothbrush song was not quite so strong had something to do with the fact that I'd spent all week making jingles. 31:32.732 --> 31:33.272 What about that? 31:33.393 --> 31:33.893 That's true. 31:34.113 --> 31:40.999 Adam's made some very good jingles for the podcast, which is currently available on the Adam and Joe page on the Six Music website. 31:41.039 --> 31:41.480 None respect. 31:43.140 --> 31:45.296 I sent you a nice email saying they were brilliant. 31:47.145 --> 31:48.345 Okay, so Net Piracy. 31:48.626 --> 31:50.006 Yeah. 31:50.607 --> 31:55.230 And there's two obvious ways to go, I would think, with a song about Net Piracy. 31:55.710 --> 31:57.251 What would you think those ways were, Joe? 31:58.472 --> 31:59.012 I don't know. 31:59.292 --> 32:02.334 To make a song about Net Piracy would be one way to go. 32:02.354 --> 32:02.674 Well, no. 32:02.714 --> 32:03.335 Musically. 32:03.855 --> 32:04.395 Oh, I see. 32:04.635 --> 32:08.378 Well... What style would... I would say the obvious style... Pirate style. 32:09.018 --> 32:09.318 Right. 32:09.358 --> 32:10.059 Sea shanty. 32:10.299 --> 32:11.400 A shanty style. 32:11.460 --> 32:11.700 Yeah. 32:11.820 --> 32:12.801 Did you go for the sea shanty? 32:12.821 --> 32:13.441 Like a shanty. 32:13.661 --> 32:41.398 uh-huh yes exactly like a shanty uh no i didn't no right no now the obvious the other obvious way of going see i think you've won already because you've actually thought about uh what way did you go i just went with uh kind of a sort of impassioned rock uh lecture right shall we hear that then all right then this is maybe you know you remember my meatball song yeah your bowie stadium rock thing this is maybe that in the same vein as that okay 32:41.858 --> 32:48.304 Yeah, this doesn't even have a name, but this is a cautionary song about illegal downloading. 32:48.624 --> 32:49.205 You ready, Ben? 32:49.345 --> 32:50.025 You look worried. 32:50.386 --> 32:51.446 You can do it wrong again. 32:51.487 --> 32:52.067 Give me the nod. 32:52.607 --> 32:53.228 Here's the nod. 32:54.169 --> 32:58.713 Imagine sting without a house, living on the street. 32:59.734 --> 33:04.318 Imagine if Led Zeppelin could not afford to eat. 33:05.558 --> 33:22.835 Imagine if the Rolling Stones had to gnaw on filthy bones That's what might happen if you all keep illegal downloading The foundations of rock and roll will slowly be eroded 33:23.556 --> 33:52.240 You might get tunes for free But you'll destroy the industry The cops might come looking at your door You need to search this to the floor Imagine Kate Nash penniless Amy Wattenhouse, a bruiseless mess Kylie Minogue, without a dress Radiohead, even more depressed Okay, so those things sound quite cool I haven't really thought this through 33:52.680 --> 34:18.411 But that's what might happen if you don't think we all choose You wanna turn the world into some kind of stupid, it'd become you Without functioning economics, we'll no longer have the stereophonics But damn it, that sounds better too But you get what I'm trying to say to you Imagine he did it all so quickly 34:18.851 --> 34:44.360 Just to pay the fair to take the bus to the city Imagine James Blount, a stinking vagrant The Kaiser tubes would choose to pay the fees Picture the Spice Girls forced to work as Vice Girls And the killers employed as road drillers If that's what you really want then keep on illegal downloading They'll have to pay live just to survive In fact it's all they can't already admit 34:45.140 --> 35:02.189 Bands can't make no money no more Without an international stadium tour If you're gonna download then go ahead Because recorded music's already dead It's not... It's not strictly true. 35:02.229 --> 35:05.050 It's not strictly true that recorded music's already dead, but it did rhyme. 35:05.270 --> 35:05.771 Yeah, yeah. 35:06.431 --> 35:12.314 And also you're sort of ignoring some of the other trickier issues about, uh, in legal downloading and the... 35:13.120 --> 35:14.662 You know, impact that it has on the industry. 35:14.682 --> 35:15.963 Does your song address those? 35:16.163 --> 35:17.184 Not really, no. 35:17.244 --> 35:18.225 I mean, it is very difficult. 35:18.265 --> 35:20.388 Did you, did you, uh, wring your hands a little bit? 35:20.408 --> 35:24.412 Did you have a little bit of anxiety about, cause you know, there are strong arguments both ways, aren't there? 35:25.113 --> 35:25.553 Uh, what? 35:25.813 --> 35:28.036 There are arguments pro illegal downloading? 35:28.056 --> 35:28.196 Yeah. 35:28.436 --> 35:30.298 Yeah, absolutely, I would say so, yeah. 35:30.358 --> 35:31.019 Would you say so? 35:31.159 --> 35:31.659 Yeah, definitely. 35:31.679 --> 35:33.621 Does your song posit any of those arguments? 35:33.741 --> 35:34.282 Not really. 35:34.462 --> 35:35.643 We'd better hear your song, man. 35:35.943 --> 35:37.384 Well... What kind of approach have you taken? 35:37.404 --> 35:38.105 You know what? 35:38.285 --> 35:40.087 I really tried this week. 35:40.167 --> 35:41.168 I really, really did try. 35:41.228 --> 35:47.494 Because I took the comments of the listeners to heart and I thought, well, it's no good me complaining about things if I really don't put 100% in. 35:49.055 --> 36:03.511 So, you know didn't have anything better to do this week and shoved all my other tasks to one side and really tried my nuts off but still I'm gonna lose because you know because you you've got like because my song is insane 36:04.011 --> 36:04.211 Is it? 36:04.471 --> 36:07.333 It's totally, it's totally demented. 36:07.734 --> 36:09.255 Because I get lost in the music. 36:09.775 --> 36:10.035 Right. 36:10.055 --> 36:10.756 Do you understand? 36:10.776 --> 36:13.757 I'm like a kind of very, very bad Brian Wilson. 36:14.518 --> 36:17.420 Whereas you're, you're a kind of Richard Stillgoer. 36:17.440 --> 36:18.781 These are foregone conclusions. 36:19.381 --> 36:23.363 You're offering, let's hear the song and let's make our judgments on the back of the song. 36:23.383 --> 36:26.565 Well I went the other of, I thought that this was the obvious way to go. 36:26.585 --> 36:26.945 Right. 36:26.965 --> 36:29.566 Would be to use a very familiar piece of music. 36:29.626 --> 36:33.428 To actually kind of illegally violate someone's copyright. 36:33.508 --> 36:33.948 Exactly. 36:33.968 --> 36:34.529 In the actual song. 36:34.549 --> 36:36.710 And what would be the best piece of music to use? 36:37.917 --> 36:38.678 Uh, I don't know. 36:38.978 --> 36:40.359 Well, here we go, have a listen. 36:40.759 --> 36:42.981 Oh, what'll ever look at that film today? 36:43.141 --> 36:45.222 But I don't think I'm gonna pay. 36:45.242 --> 36:51.247 Cause I'm bad, and I'm still, I don't care, I don't fail, I don't take anything you got. 36:51.427 --> 36:53.968 And I put it in my pocket, yeah. 36:53.988 --> 36:59.392 I still films, I still books, I still books, I still looks, I still kids. 36:59.752 --> 37:01.854 Well, I don't steal kids by my mind. 37:03.663 --> 37:05.024 That's the mind of a pirate. 37:05.425 --> 37:07.306 Did you hear the hate and greed? 37:07.747 --> 37:12.391 And our beloved entertainment biz is where the dirty pirates feed. 37:12.751 --> 37:16.294 And I don't mean terrorists and their golden compass knock-offs. 37:17.035 --> 37:18.837 I mean you and your downloads. 37:19.117 --> 37:20.859 Oh, I ought to knock your block-offs. 37:21.359 --> 37:23.301 How do you think this stuff gets made? 37:23.321 --> 37:24.582 You think artists create it? 37:24.602 --> 37:45.253 They don't get paid, it's the only reason they do what they do It's not the flippin' work, most of that's poo They depend on the money that you idiots give So they can make more crap, and so they can live the good life Yes, the life of the stars But you're taking their pools and you're taking their cars, you bastards You better believe it, pal, cause we're evil, we're stars 37:54.537 --> 38:23.386 And we're gonna play some music And nobody at the party's gonna pay Yes the world is changing I don't like it But that's the way it is So we've hooked up some statistics That will show you how you're ruining all the finely tuned mechanics Of the entertainment biz Every file that you download to your computer represents 38:26.437 --> 38:47.073 made possibly and even if you're buying other stuff that's don't make up for all the phantom profit that you've slayed I don't care cause I'm mental I'm evil and I deserve to be locked up cause I'm a horse and I smell and I want to go to hell cause Satan's 38:53.985 --> 39:02.738 End of days, though because it is an old one And it could take quite a while, I might have to go and buy it anyway! 39:09.594 --> 39:10.434 Oh my god. 39:12.115 --> 39:13.055 What day is it now? 39:14.115 --> 39:14.695 What day is it? 39:14.915 --> 39:19.957 Well, you know, that was, uh, it's not the longest, it is the longest one I've done, I think, yeah. 39:20.477 --> 39:21.217 How long was your one? 39:21.677 --> 39:22.577 Oh, who are you? 39:22.778 --> 39:24.618 Well, I was trying to put the effort in, wasn't I? 39:24.638 --> 39:25.558 That was amazing. 39:25.578 --> 39:26.619 My bohemian rhapsody. 39:26.639 --> 39:28.299 That was so produced. 39:28.539 --> 39:28.799 Yeah. 39:28.879 --> 39:29.480 That was great. 39:29.600 --> 39:38.749 I think that was an inspired choice to use the music there from the BBFC's insane anti-piracy thing you get on the front of all the DVDs and stuff. 39:38.769 --> 39:39.269 That's right. 39:39.469 --> 39:40.210 Which you can't skip through. 39:40.230 --> 39:40.791 That was very good. 39:40.951 --> 39:42.012 Which you can't skip through. 39:42.032 --> 39:42.813 It's a nightmare. 39:42.873 --> 39:49.119 And of course the irony with that is that if you're watching it, it's almost certainly not a pirated copy you're watching. 39:49.179 --> 39:50.560 It's a legitimate copy. 39:51.041 --> 39:52.462 That's the big beef that people have with that. 39:52.762 --> 39:56.803 Anyway, so get your votes in immediately, folks. 39:57.403 --> 40:06.425 64046 is the text number if you're listening live, or if you're listening on the Listen Again, or maybe even on the exciting new podcast that's now available from the website. 40:07.005 --> 40:10.666 You can email us adamandjo.6musicatbbc.co.uk. 40:11.186 --> 40:14.767 Right now, here is, this is, is that really how you spell Gary Newman? 40:15.447 --> 40:16.067 No, it's not. 40:16.167 --> 40:19.508 They've spelled it N-E-W, like he's a new man. 40:20.128 --> 40:20.968 That's incorrect. 40:21.288 --> 40:24.349 N-U-M-A-N is how you spell Newman. 40:24.729 --> 40:26.629 And I chose this one for you, listeners. 40:26.669 --> 40:27.230 Hope you enjoy it. 40:27.250 --> 40:28.770 This is Music for Chameleons. 40:29.070 --> 40:29.510 There we go. 40:29.530 --> 40:32.351 A little bit of winsome lady pop for you. 40:32.551 --> 40:36.191 That was the Sundays with, uh, that's where the story goes. 40:36.231 --> 40:37.552 Here's where the story goes. 40:37.572 --> 40:38.252 Is that what it's called? 40:39.052 --> 40:42.515 Here's where the story ends. 40:42.535 --> 40:44.977 This is Adam and Jo here on BBC Six Music. 40:45.517 --> 40:49.981 The show where we get as many facts wrong as possible in a three hour period. 40:50.021 --> 40:50.881 The names of songs. 40:51.922 --> 40:53.383 The names of artists. 40:53.803 --> 40:56.485 The names of paintings and who they were painted by. 40:56.525 --> 40:57.146 It's all wrong. 40:57.366 --> 41:01.069 This is what you get if you hire people from television. 41:01.329 --> 41:02.730 Yeah, you know, we don't care. 41:02.950 --> 41:04.811 We're just hopped up on booze the whole time. 41:04.831 --> 41:05.511 A disgrace. 41:05.571 --> 41:07.513 The other thing is, we do it on purpose. 41:08.013 --> 41:08.153 Right. 41:08.173 --> 41:10.974 Because that gives you at home a chance to feel clever. 41:11.235 --> 41:11.635 Exactly. 41:11.715 --> 41:16.858 You can correct us and you feel, you know, good about yourselves if we got everything right. 41:17.438 --> 41:19.060 What would you, how would you feel about yourself? 41:19.280 --> 41:21.763 We wouldn't want you to feel, we wouldn't want you to feel inferior. 41:21.803 --> 41:27.469 Yeah, it's good to feel slightly superior to people on the radio and to think they're not very good. 41:27.569 --> 41:28.090 Exactly. 41:28.110 --> 41:30.933 Because then you can email complaints and stuff, all kinds of details. 41:30.953 --> 41:33.095 Everyone loves complaining to the BBC, that's why it exists. 41:33.115 --> 41:33.996 People love complaining. 41:34.016 --> 41:36.859 Yeah, it's just to vent everyone's angry fingertips. 41:36.879 --> 41:38.341 It's a big complaints clearing house. 41:38.821 --> 41:42.723 Here's an email from Gary Williams about the Morrissey gig last night. 41:42.803 --> 41:49.986 Now, continuing on the theme of being factually inadequate, we're not sure quite what this gig was an aid of, but it was at the Roundhouse. 41:50.146 --> 41:51.827 Anyway, the email says, Hi, Adam and Jo. 41:52.247 --> 41:56.969 I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of what happened at the Morrissey gig at the Roundhouse last night. 41:57.129 --> 41:57.670 Oh, my lord. 41:57.770 --> 42:01.131 That said, I did miss the first few minutes of your show, so apologies if you covered it already. 42:01.211 --> 42:02.011 No, Gary, we didn't. 42:02.412 --> 42:07.354 Basically, Gary's email says, Moz was three songs into his set and there was the occasional croak. 42:07.754 --> 42:08.854 as he struggled with notes. 42:09.614 --> 42:15.836 At the end of the song, Moz says, you see steroids, injections, antibiotics, no good. 42:16.376 --> 42:21.417 Before launching into the next song, I just want to see the boy happy, which he simply could not sing. 42:22.118 --> 42:24.358 It was quite painful and worrying to watch. 42:24.658 --> 42:30.700 He kept on trying and then walked off mid-song, with the band finishing the song, then walking off themselves. 42:31.380 --> 42:32.321 the lights stay down. 42:32.601 --> 42:35.363 But obviously the audience are probably all thinking pretty much the same thing. 42:35.603 --> 42:40.987 The minutes pass, with the crowd occasionally singing, More is... No, More is See. 42:41.428 --> 42:43.709 More... I'm not reading that correctly, am I? 42:44.110 --> 42:45.210 More is See. 42:45.331 --> 42:46.391 More is See. 42:46.491 --> 42:49.834 He's written in a confusing way and it was over the end of the line. 42:50.014 --> 42:51.775 Because they want to see more, is that what you were thinking? 42:51.795 --> 42:57.558 Yeah, yeah, more is the, we want to see more, we want to see more. 42:57.678 --> 43:06.242 Quarter an hour later, Russell Brand, Jonathan Russell, David Williams, Whaliams, he's written it, Whaliamson, walk on stage looking really bloody nervous, it must be said. 43:06.762 --> 43:09.543 Brand grabs the mic and basically says, we all love Morrissey. 43:09.903 --> 43:10.984 Audience boo! 43:11.484 --> 43:15.546 Brand, no, no, we all love Morrissey and he's sick, so he can't come back on tonight. 43:15.946 --> 43:16.486 Audience boo! 43:18.027 --> 43:24.310 Uh, at this point, Jonathan Ross takes a mic and says, listen to him, pointing at Walliams, uh, no, and says, what? 43:24.510 --> 43:25.671 Ah, this email makes no sense. 43:25.851 --> 43:29.473 Basically threatens that Walliams is gonna sing the I'm a Lady song for half an hour. 43:30.153 --> 43:34.235 Uh, then Bran tells us all we'll get the chance to see Moz somehow, something will be arranged, and that's it! 43:34.675 --> 43:35.375 The gig ends! 43:35.636 --> 43:35.976 Whoa. 43:36.696 --> 43:37.837 What were they doing there? 43:37.877 --> 43:41.518 Did Morrissey just have Russell Brand, Jonathan Ross and Walliams in the wings? 43:41.578 --> 43:42.198 I don't know. 43:42.218 --> 43:43.879 Was it some kind of BBC event? 43:44.339 --> 43:44.860 Maybe. 43:45.280 --> 43:45.720 Must have been. 43:45.740 --> 43:46.800 They were all BBC names. 43:46.820 --> 43:49.862 Well, Jonathan Ross has Morrissey on his show next week. 43:50.002 --> 43:50.342 Does he? 43:51.322 --> 43:55.504 And obviously Jonathan's show was on last night when Jonathan was at the gig. 43:55.684 --> 43:57.785 Jonathan tapes his show on a Thursday, I think. 43:57.805 --> 43:59.106 Right. 43:59.466 --> 44:01.067 So obviously Jonathan... His TV show. 44:01.147 --> 44:02.047 Had no idea about it. 44:02.067 --> 44:02.687 Yes, yes. 44:04.128 --> 44:05.309 Wow, I wonder what's gonna happen. 44:05.329 --> 44:07.889 Poor old Morrissey, that's no good, is it, if you're losing your voice? 44:08.130 --> 44:11.551 Presumably that's just a temporary thing, though, it's nothing career-threatening. 44:11.571 --> 44:14.352 Steroids, injections, and antibiotics. 44:14.532 --> 44:20.034 Yeah, but you know, if you've got a cold and you're doing a gig and stuff like that, then that's what they give you, that kind of thing. 44:20.194 --> 44:20.734 Steroids? 44:20.794 --> 44:21.795 Little bit of steroids. 44:22.035 --> 44:22.315 Really? 44:22.355 --> 44:24.696 Fix up your voice, make it seem like that! 44:25.822 --> 44:28.663 I don't know, I don't know what pop stars do, but there's all kinds of things. 44:28.743 --> 44:36.647 I did a gig, a stand-up gig, just on Monday, and I wasn't used to it, and I lost my voice pretty much by the end of a ten minute set. 44:36.667 --> 44:37.528 But you struggled through? 44:37.828 --> 44:40.990 I struggled through, but that's just one little gig in the middle of nowhere. 44:41.370 --> 44:43.291 Imagine if you're a singer, you have to do it every single night. 44:44.151 --> 44:49.753 Anyway, so, well, speedy recovery, I wish you well, Morrissey, and, um, here's some Kanicki for you, right now. 44:50.033 --> 44:51.834 That's Kanicki with Come Out Tonight. 44:51.874 --> 44:53.875 This is Adam and Joe on BBC 6 Music. 44:53.995 --> 44:55.596 It's time now for the news at 10.30. 44:55.836 --> 44:58.957 That was The Psychedelic Birds with President Gass! 45:01.218 --> 45:02.038 Text-a-nation! 45:02.098 --> 45:03.999 Text, text, text, text-a-nation! 45:04.079 --> 45:05.019 What if I don't want to? 45:05.279 --> 45:06.000 Text-a-nation! 45:06.100 --> 45:07.100 But I'm using email! 45:07.260 --> 45:08.001 Is that a problem? 45:08.041 --> 45:08.841 It doesn't matter, text! 45:11.895 --> 45:21.348 Yes, Text the Nation this week is all about what kind of a sort of physical visual trademark you'd come up with if you were launching yourself as a new kind of a rock act. 45:21.889 --> 45:24.352 We've had one or two reminders of some existing ones. 45:25.313 --> 45:26.455 This is from a guy called 45:26.835 --> 45:28.316 Wildo or wildo? 45:28.717 --> 45:29.337 I'm not sure. 45:29.738 --> 45:30.598 W-I-L-D-O. 45:31.519 --> 45:32.680 Wildo, I would say. 45:32.760 --> 45:35.983 Yeah, so's not to rhyme with the other word. 45:36.984 --> 45:43.050 When Weezer became successful, Rivers Cuomo had a leg surgically lengthened because it was shorter than his other one. 45:43.850 --> 45:44.271 Really? 45:44.491 --> 45:46.453 This is according to Wildo. 45:49.036 --> 45:52.359 If I was a rock star, I'd like to have one of my normal legs lengthened. 45:52.580 --> 45:57.365 Then I would perform on a sloping stage and remain stable compared to my other bandmates. 45:58.426 --> 46:02.090 And I could sell branded orthopedic shoes from the merchandise store. 46:02.650 --> 46:03.571 Like Marilyn Manson. 46:03.831 --> 46:04.632 Does he do that? 46:04.712 --> 46:06.174 Well, he's got, you know, he wears kind of... 46:06.594 --> 46:06.714 It. 46:06.954 --> 46:07.334 Does it. 46:07.394 --> 46:08.615 Do whatever it is. 46:09.915 --> 46:12.056 He wears kind of orthopedic shoes and stuff, doesn't he? 46:12.116 --> 46:13.537 And calipers and all. 46:13.577 --> 46:15.537 He makes himself look grotesque. 46:15.557 --> 46:17.678 There's no wardrobe rules. 46:17.938 --> 46:18.919 No, he'll wear anything. 46:19.499 --> 46:20.219 He does have wardrobe. 46:20.239 --> 46:21.500 He's got strict wardrobe rules. 46:21.540 --> 46:21.720 Does he? 46:21.880 --> 46:22.460 Oh yes. 46:22.860 --> 46:24.060 He wouldn't wear anything nice. 46:24.080 --> 46:25.181 There you go. 46:25.201 --> 46:26.341 Do you know what I mean? 46:26.381 --> 46:28.002 He wouldn't wear anything from the gap. 46:28.702 --> 46:31.623 The drummer from Def Leopards only got one arm, we're reminded. 46:31.643 --> 46:32.283 That's right. 46:32.903 --> 46:34.183 Gabrielle. 46:34.363 --> 46:36.004 He was famous before his accident though. 46:36.284 --> 46:36.544 Right. 46:37.984 --> 46:43.626 He had to make do with... But you know, it was obviously terrible for him in some respects, but also increased his fame. 46:44.346 --> 46:48.087 In other respects, do you think, you know, there's a silver lining to every cloud? 46:48.247 --> 46:50.728 People were impressed by the fact that he overcame adversity in that way. 46:50.768 --> 46:51.368 Absolutely. 46:51.568 --> 46:52.268 Amazing drummer. 46:52.768 --> 46:56.369 Is Gabrielle's sleepy pirate eye considered a natural showbiz enhancement? 46:56.889 --> 46:59.190 I thought that was purely an affectation. 46:59.210 --> 47:00.711 No, I think there's a reason. 47:00.871 --> 47:05.352 She was on this morning the other day, Claire is nodding, producer, lady. 47:05.572 --> 47:05.772 Right. 47:06.012 --> 47:07.113 Yeah, there's something going on there. 47:07.133 --> 47:07.733 She's got a doctor's note. 47:07.773 --> 47:08.453 It's not just for fun. 47:08.493 --> 47:10.334 Yeah, she does have a medical note for that. 47:10.354 --> 47:11.214 Okay. 47:11.354 --> 47:16.416 So there are some real ones apart from Wildo's long leg. 47:16.596 --> 47:17.316 That wasn't real. 47:18.016 --> 47:19.457 Uh, here are some more not real ones. 47:19.617 --> 47:20.638 Andrew in Newmarket. 47:20.958 --> 47:24.021 On one side of my face, I'd have a beard, but no moustache. 47:24.261 --> 47:26.803 And on the other side, I'd have a moustache, but no beard. 47:26.843 --> 47:27.363 That's good. 47:27.403 --> 47:28.384 That's quite good, isn't it? 47:28.424 --> 47:34.809 Well, you know, last week we played a song, um, by Peter Hamill from Vandergraf Generator, and I said on the cover of his album, 47:35.349 --> 47:41.196 You can see him on the future now with one side of his heavily bearded face shaved and the other side not. 47:41.216 --> 47:48.904 Well, that's a sort of famous mime artist's trick to kind of draw a line down the middle of your nose and then have one character on one side and then you turn to the right and left, don't you? 47:49.024 --> 47:49.264 Yes. 47:49.344 --> 47:50.806 Offer opposing profiles. 47:51.026 --> 47:51.246 Ooh. 47:51.587 --> 47:52.127 Uh, but, uh... 47:52.868 --> 47:54.048 That's a good idea, Andrew. 47:54.609 --> 48:02.871 Here's another good one from Ben Douglas, who says, I would have a continuously bleeding nose and would sing aggressive Britpop. 48:04.051 --> 48:04.972 That's a good idea. 48:04.992 --> 48:06.092 I mean, distressing. 48:06.852 --> 48:08.273 And you'd have to, how would you do that? 48:08.293 --> 48:10.073 You'd have to have some kind of pipe implanted. 48:10.093 --> 48:15.895 It couldn't be real blood, otherwise you'd faint, or it would just be horrible and filthy and disease spreading. 48:16.115 --> 48:17.256 We'd have to be fake blood. 48:17.496 --> 48:22.699 You'd have to, after each gig, you'd have to have like a medical team standing by to give you infusions. 48:22.839 --> 48:24.641 Well, this is if it was real blood. 48:24.881 --> 48:25.181 Yeah. 48:25.861 --> 48:27.042 I'd go for the fake blood. 48:27.142 --> 48:29.584 Well, if it was fake, would people buy into that? 48:29.604 --> 48:33.206 It's exciting, though, because when he sang a really powerful lyric, it would sort of gush. 48:33.426 --> 48:36.048 That reminds me of Andrew W. Cage, you remember him? 48:36.428 --> 48:36.708 Right. 48:36.949 --> 48:40.611 He, like, he was on the cover of his album with his slows all bloody, wasn't he? 48:40.731 --> 48:47.015 And I always just thought that was his thing, because every time I saw a picture of him in the paper at a gig or whatever, he seemed constantly to be bleeding. 48:47.296 --> 48:55.101 Yeah, our old school friend Omar Fadli used to say that the hallmark of a really good heavy metal gig was if his ears bled. 48:55.361 --> 48:55.641 Right. 48:56.262 --> 48:56.582 Yeah. 48:56.682 --> 48:58.403 So that's in that kind of vein, I suppose. 48:58.423 --> 48:58.984 A bit of bleeding. 48:59.004 --> 48:59.784 Matt in Bristol. 49:00.785 --> 49:01.345 Uh, no. 49:01.705 --> 49:02.026 Hang on. 49:02.206 --> 49:03.066 Sorry, Matt in Bristol. 49:03.307 --> 49:07.509 I'd put a star by yours by mistake, because actually it's not good enough to read. 49:08.530 --> 49:09.190 Sorry about that. 49:10.111 --> 49:11.111 No, hang on, maybe it is. 49:11.711 --> 49:16.794 If I was a pop star, I would always wear Jesus sandals to show off my freaky half a toe. 49:17.554 --> 49:21.776 So the thing about that is Matt saying that, look, I've got this freaky half a toe. 49:21.816 --> 49:22.696 Yeah. 49:22.836 --> 49:28.219 If I became a star, a thing that I usually conceal and am slightly anxious about. 49:28.259 --> 49:28.419 Yeah. 49:29.019 --> 49:31.000 I'd go the opposite way, I would trumpet it. 49:31.300 --> 49:31.820 Absolutely. 49:32.280 --> 49:35.181 You know, I'd make it my absolute, the key to my character. 49:35.321 --> 49:36.102 That's the way to go, isn't it? 49:36.122 --> 49:37.122 That's what pop's like. 49:37.462 --> 49:39.043 Yeah, turn it, use it to your advantage. 49:39.063 --> 49:40.063 That's what pop does. 49:40.203 --> 49:44.465 You start off, you get a physical affliction, it makes you feel like an outsider. 49:44.865 --> 49:46.366 You use that, that's your strength. 49:46.446 --> 49:46.926 Exactly. 49:46.966 --> 49:47.166 Yeah. 49:47.806 --> 49:48.626 That's the idea. 49:49.527 --> 49:50.767 And here's one from Aiden. 49:50.787 --> 49:51.808 I don't know about half a toe, then. 49:53.828 --> 49:54.229 Why not? 49:54.369 --> 49:55.089 I think it's good. 49:55.109 --> 49:56.970 I don't know how much strength you can get from that. 49:56.990 --> 49:57.570 I think it's good. 49:58.130 --> 50:05.814 Here's Aiden who says, I'd have a 70s glam guitar like Dave's from Slade, but it would be surgically attached to my tummy. 50:06.674 --> 50:12.237 My fans would yell, play another riff from that grotesque belly tar of yours, a belly tar. 50:13.097 --> 50:15.058 I also fancy sporting an eye patch. 50:15.398 --> 50:16.679 Well, one thing at a time, Aiden. 50:16.759 --> 50:19.760 Another thing would be called, you could call it a gutter. 50:20.020 --> 50:27.967 I like the idea because if you've got an in need belly button, if you've got an in need belly button, that's like the echo chamber from a guitar. 50:28.367 --> 50:31.630 So you just put some tiny little strings across it, have them surgery. 50:33.049 --> 50:37.351 Hey listen, if you've got an outie belly button though, it looks like the cone in the middle of a speaker. 50:37.811 --> 50:38.831 That's true, or a dial. 50:38.951 --> 50:41.472 Right, you could have your whole stomach turn into an amp. 50:41.632 --> 50:44.053 Yeah, and your outie belly button could be a dial. 50:45.614 --> 50:46.254 A couple more. 50:46.694 --> 50:47.034 Go on then. 50:47.735 --> 50:50.576 Here's one from Mazz in Maudsley. 50:52.096 --> 50:53.257 Isn't that a mental institution? 50:55.378 --> 50:57.680 Yeah, but it's probably also a place. 50:57.960 --> 51:06.866 I'd go down the Anne Boleyn route and have an extra finger attached, so I could add an impossibly complex synth harmony to my gangster greensleeves rap. 51:07.066 --> 51:14.751 I like the idea of an extra finger, because if you hold the microphone like Tony Hadley used to, the little finger goes up in the air. 51:15.131 --> 51:20.576 Imagine if there was a second little thing that was very long, you know, people wouldn't miss that. 51:20.596 --> 51:21.537 That would be scary. 51:21.637 --> 51:24.639 Like Mutia as well, she holds her mic like that. 51:24.659 --> 51:28.102 A lot of R&B ladies favor that with the pinky sticking up at the end. 51:28.283 --> 51:28.743 I don't like it. 51:29.003 --> 51:30.104 And sometimes they tap the mic. 51:30.124 --> 51:31.986 Some people sip their tea with that little thing. 51:32.006 --> 51:32.566 It's disgusting. 51:32.586 --> 51:33.087 It's disgusting. 51:33.467 --> 51:34.208 Keep them coming in. 51:34.248 --> 51:38.370 Your ideas for innovative physical trademarks were you to be a rock star. 51:38.390 --> 51:39.891 The text number is 64046. 51:40.872 --> 51:46.455 Now here's a confusing track from Los Camposinos, and it's called Death to Los Camposinos. 51:46.495 --> 51:47.316 What are they even about? 51:47.356 --> 51:48.016 Let's find out. 51:48.237 --> 51:48.737 There you go. 51:48.797 --> 51:52.519 That's Los Camposinos with Death to Los Camposinos. 51:52.559 --> 51:54.301 That was an enjoyable racket, wasn't it? 51:54.381 --> 51:59.144 And that is their new single, which is out on the 18th of February. 51:59.944 --> 52:01.506 I believe, yes. 52:01.606 --> 52:03.468 So go out and buy it, kids. 52:04.229 --> 52:04.570 Okay. 52:05.371 --> 52:05.871 That means you. 52:05.891 --> 52:07.974 Are we doing Texanation stuff now? 52:08.334 --> 52:08.895 No, not yet. 52:08.915 --> 52:11.318 I think we'll have a bit more music. 52:11.358 --> 52:14.021 Come back to it in a second once we've gathered some more. 52:14.041 --> 52:14.902 A little rest. 52:15.222 --> 52:16.022 Yeah, little rest. 52:16.182 --> 52:18.123 Who's your favourite member of the Cabinet at the moment? 52:18.643 --> 52:19.704 Oh, I love the Cabinet. 52:20.324 --> 52:24.486 To me, they're kind of like a great football team or, you know, the cast of Star Wars. 52:24.546 --> 52:26.026 I wish they'd produce action figures. 52:26.546 --> 52:28.727 I'd have little debates, games. 52:28.767 --> 52:29.448 That's a good idea. 52:29.488 --> 52:31.448 Why don't they produce action figures of the Cabinet? 52:31.688 --> 52:33.149 Because they change all the time. 52:33.189 --> 52:36.450 They do action figures of almost everything else, though, don't they? 52:36.470 --> 52:37.971 Going to Forbidden Planet these days. 52:38.271 --> 52:41.132 I tell you who's my least favorite member of the cabinet. 52:41.332 --> 52:41.472 Who? 52:41.732 --> 52:46.533 The one that's like, um, the one that, the one that's on the airports. 52:46.553 --> 52:47.394 Man or woman? 52:47.414 --> 52:49.554 No, she's a, she's a woman and she went to our school. 52:50.295 --> 52:51.035 I've forgotten her name. 52:51.055 --> 52:51.515 Oh, Ruth Kelly? 52:51.595 --> 52:51.875 Yeah. 52:52.075 --> 52:54.096 Yeah, she's a bit duplicitous, isn't she? 52:54.376 --> 52:55.096 She looks like her. 52:55.556 --> 52:57.316 A little fat boy out of the beat now. 52:58.677 --> 53:00.037 Well, they all look a little odd. 53:00.057 --> 53:06.999 I was looking at a photograph of Miliband the other day, David Miliband, ex-environment secretary, and now the foreign secretary. 53:07.579 --> 53:08.579 And look, there he is. 53:08.699 --> 53:10.460 I'm showing you a picture, Joe Cornish. 53:10.940 --> 53:15.261 And he's got a real sort of... He's got a little helmet haircut. 53:15.281 --> 53:16.201 Yeah, what's wrong with him? 53:16.261 --> 53:18.762 And don't you think that he looks a little bit like Hilary Swank? 53:19.662 --> 53:20.242 Don't you reckon? 53:20.562 --> 53:24.323 Like dressed up as a man, doing her boys don't cry thing. 53:25.083 --> 53:41.710 he looks evil he's crazy looking though isn't he he looks like a boy i mean he looks like a sort of 18 year old yeah tranny man anyway i was um i was impressed with the uh i always forget that the name of the uh it's like a detective series tranny man like the man from atlantis yeah 53:42.410 --> 53:45.891 But his detective powers just stretched her wearing women's clothes. 53:45.951 --> 53:46.651 Yeah, being a tranny. 53:46.671 --> 53:48.611 That's a good idea for David Walliams on ITV1. 53:48.631 --> 53:49.751 Tranny man. 53:51.132 --> 53:56.452 Yeah, I always forget that the education secretary or the school's secretary is called Ed Balls. 53:56.933 --> 53:58.313 Yeah, that's unfortunate, isn't it? 53:58.373 --> 54:00.413 But, you know... It's not good if you're in the government, is it? 54:00.453 --> 54:00.493 No. 54:00.513 --> 54:01.893 I was thinking... He's good, though, actually. 54:01.953 --> 54:03.274 He's quite good on telly and stuff. 54:03.314 --> 54:03.954 He speaks well. 54:04.234 --> 54:04.794 He doesn't talk balls. 54:04.814 --> 54:05.074 Considering. 54:05.274 --> 54:05.474 Right. 54:05.494 --> 54:06.094 He doesn't, no. 54:06.374 --> 54:10.235 Having that name's probably led him to cultivate, you know, quite a confidence in life. 54:10.335 --> 54:10.855 Yeah, yeah. 54:11.155 --> 54:12.516 Is there an entertainment secretary? 54:12.536 --> 54:16.480 Uh, I don't know, there's a culture secretary, isn't that James Parnell? 54:16.760 --> 54:18.802 Right, right, culture, that would be the same, wouldn't it? 54:19.022 --> 54:20.203 He could be called Robbie Rubbish. 54:20.924 --> 54:26.228 I'm just thinking of, uh, all the variations on air balls for the, uh, for the, uh, cabinet. 54:26.508 --> 54:26.869 Yes. 54:26.969 --> 54:28.170 Health secretary Colin Crap. 54:29.832 --> 54:31.053 Well, it's just a thought. 54:32.054 --> 54:33.476 Hey, here's a free play from me. 54:33.556 --> 54:35.699 I saw... I've seen it a couple of times actually. 54:35.739 --> 54:36.881 David Fincher's new film. 54:37.181 --> 54:37.982 It's not really new. 54:38.042 --> 54:38.803 It was out last year. 54:38.843 --> 54:39.284 Zodiac. 54:39.304 --> 54:40.145 Have you seen Zodiac? 54:40.165 --> 54:40.545 Yeah, it's good. 54:40.826 --> 54:42.287 Zodiac's a masterpiece. 54:42.808 --> 54:44.771 It's really good, really scary. 54:45.492 --> 54:46.092 It's very long. 54:46.733 --> 54:48.314 If you haven't seen it, rent it out and see it. 54:48.574 --> 54:49.715 I watched it in two sections. 54:49.775 --> 54:53.016 Yeah, put aside a good, you know, uninterrupted session to watch it. 54:53.296 --> 54:53.817 It's really good. 54:53.837 --> 55:03.662 One of the things I particularly liked about it was to see killings done like they used to be in the old days, you know, without loud shock sound effects, without flashy cuts. 55:04.222 --> 55:06.586 Like a good, proper, scary atmospheric. 55:06.726 --> 55:08.408 Well, it's set in the 70s, isn't it? 55:08.488 --> 55:08.789 It is. 55:09.069 --> 55:13.075 And everything about it is late 60s to early 70s. 55:13.115 --> 55:14.737 That's when the Zodiac Killer was operating. 55:14.997 --> 55:17.000 He made his first kill on my birthday, in fact. 55:17.060 --> 55:17.701 That's nice, man. 55:17.721 --> 55:18.322 Save my birth. 55:18.542 --> 55:19.103 Lovely way to celebrate. 55:19.964 --> 55:38.230 that's nice yeah but this is a track that fincher fincher uses over the very beginning of the song and he uses fantastic music 60s and 70s music during the film he uses hurdy gurdy man by donovan and makes it sound utterly sinister and that's the deal with the way he's used the music lots of kind of quite positive songs but in this context that suddenly become 55:38.790 --> 55:53.380 you know, weirdly creepy and evoked that creepiness about the 60s, that kind of Mansonesque terror, you know, the terrific freedom, obviously, culturally, was being espoused, but at the same time, it was a sort of terror that people were too free, and things were getting out of control. 55:53.500 --> 55:59.323 This is a song, I think, that was originally from the hair, from hair, the musical, and I'm not sure what context it was in there. 55:59.343 --> 56:00.384 Well, that was the beginning of the entry. 56:00.404 --> 56:03.847 For a start, running around naked on stage is a total disgrace. 56:04.007 --> 56:05.709 This is over the very beginning of Zodiac. 56:05.749 --> 56:07.931 This is three dog night with easy to be hard. 56:08.211 --> 56:09.152 Ooh, creepy. 56:09.172 --> 56:12.435 That's a good, that's sort of out of character for that band as well. 56:13.331 --> 56:13.591 Isn't it? 56:13.991 --> 56:15.612 I don't really know much about three dog night. 56:15.632 --> 56:19.694 They did Jeremiah was a bullfrog Do you remember that one? 56:19.974 --> 56:21.215 No, yeah vaguely vaguely. 56:21.295 --> 56:23.195 No, I don't that was pretty upbeat. 56:23.335 --> 56:29.038 That was good easy to be hard by three dog night This is Adam and Joe here on BBC six music now folks. 56:29.178 --> 56:40.043 We've got an exciting trail for you Alan car the key I always think of her smoking the quit smoking guy died, you know, he's the Alan car I've only got space for one Alan car in my well 56:40.723 --> 56:47.010 Make new space because there's a new Alan car in town and he's sitting in for a Stephen Merchant tomorrow. 56:47.310 --> 56:51.474 Here's a trail that details that situation in greater details. 56:51.855 --> 56:53.316 Is that a new cave or old cave? 56:55.479 --> 56:56.820 Cave experts, any cavemen here? 56:57.987 --> 56:58.988 No, no one knows. 57:00.049 --> 57:03.512 Now we're gonna have furious cavemen emailing in and saying how dare you not know. 57:03.652 --> 57:07.436 That was Dig Lazarus Dig, Dig Lazarus Dig by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. 57:07.996 --> 57:10.638 And this is Adam and Joe here on Six Music. 57:11.880 --> 57:12.620 Over to you, Joe. 57:12.840 --> 57:13.321 Thanks a lot. 57:13.341 --> 57:15.883 Let's do a few more texts that we've had in from Text the Nation. 57:16.244 --> 57:23.970 This week's theme is what kind of physical copyright thing, you know, eccentric facet would you have if you were a pop star? 57:25.192 --> 57:25.994 So, here we go. 57:26.314 --> 57:27.637 Here's one from Andy. 57:28.158 --> 57:35.332 He says, I have a small extra bit of skin on the outside of my ear, about half the size of a 1P. 57:36.710 --> 57:37.271 Isn't that normal? 57:37.871 --> 57:38.632 Everyone's got one of those. 57:38.672 --> 57:39.272 What, the lobe? 57:39.633 --> 57:40.473 Hang on, whereabouts. 57:40.493 --> 57:41.734 Let's take these headphones off. 57:42.155 --> 57:46.438 On the outside of my ear, whereabouts, where do you think the normal bit is? 57:46.699 --> 57:47.720 Well there, that's your earlobe. 57:47.740 --> 57:48.921 That's the lobe. 57:51.163 --> 57:55.166 You need to be more specific about where on your ear it is, please Andy, if you're still listening. 57:56.147 --> 57:59.330 He's saying my hair could be flicked over my ear for video shoots. 58:00.510 --> 58:07.072 What's even cooler is my daughter has the same feature, so a dynasty of extra ear bit stars are born. 58:08.053 --> 58:09.713 I wonder if he's saying he's just got big ears. 58:10.333 --> 58:12.154 No, he's got some sort of extra bit. 58:12.674 --> 58:19.477 We're worried about that, Andy, because we think that human beings generally don't know precisely what's in their ears or on them. 58:20.557 --> 58:22.477 There's all sorts of flaps of skin going on there. 58:22.498 --> 58:25.619 Well, ears are one of those things that can vary hugely from one person to another. 58:25.639 --> 58:26.979 Just might not stand out enough. 58:27.079 --> 58:31.003 And also, it's not one of those things unless you've got absolutely nutty ears, you know? 58:31.043 --> 58:34.347 It's not one of those things you really notice until you actually study them and then you think, oh, look at that! 58:34.367 --> 58:35.488 This person's got very small ears! 58:35.508 --> 58:40.494 But I tell you what, I like the idea of a damaged ear, like, uh, like Corey, uh, Haim Feldman. 58:40.534 --> 58:41.956 Corey Feldman in Stand By Me. 58:41.976 --> 58:42.937 You know a burned ear. 58:43.417 --> 58:44.538 Do you have a damaged ear? 58:44.558 --> 58:51.420 Yeah, that's the thing that in that film, I'm not, they do reference it, but you kind of notice it without anybody saying it at the beginning. 58:51.580 --> 58:57.162 But that's a... His dad slammed his head onto the cooker or something, it's in the narrative. 58:57.262 --> 58:58.523 Oh, that's right, yeah. 58:59.143 --> 59:00.984 The actor doesn't have a really damaged ear. 59:01.104 --> 59:02.645 No, he's fine, he's just got it damaged. 59:02.865 --> 59:05.145 Like a shredded ear, that would be quite good, wouldn't it? 59:05.546 --> 59:06.206 A shredded ear. 59:06.246 --> 59:07.266 You know, a little bit shreddy. 59:07.867 --> 59:08.167 Yeah. 59:08.547 --> 59:08.907 Do you think? 59:09.227 --> 59:10.348 Well, maybe not. 59:10.388 --> 59:14.994 There's something wrong for a popstar to have a damaged ear, though, because, you know, it's all about music and sound. 59:15.034 --> 59:18.598 Yeah, but Brian Wilson, he was deaf in one ear after his dad walloped him, yeah. 59:18.878 --> 59:19.398 There you go. 59:19.418 --> 59:20.460 Beethoven, of course. 59:20.880 --> 59:24.144 This is one of my favourite ones from Steve in London. 59:24.424 --> 59:25.645 He says, how about gills? 59:26.266 --> 59:27.406 Gills is good, yeah. 59:27.426 --> 59:28.587 You see, gills is very good. 59:28.647 --> 59:29.607 Kind of a fish man. 59:29.727 --> 59:31.068 Well, a webbed- webbed hands. 59:31.128 --> 59:33.068 You know, some people do have slightly webbed fingers. 59:33.088 --> 59:34.069 Webbed feet are common. 59:34.469 --> 59:37.390 I wished that I had webbed hands when I was younger. 59:37.410 --> 59:37.610 Did you? 59:37.650 --> 59:37.870 Why? 59:38.410 --> 59:41.951 Because there was a program called The Man from Atlantis on when I was, uh, Tottie. 59:42.511 --> 59:44.292 And I just thought that would be the coolest way. 59:44.332 --> 59:46.813 Whenever I was swimming, I used to swim like The Man from Atlantis. 59:47.674 --> 01:00:01.890 you know in a sort of mad you keep your arms down by your sides and you just wobble about like an eel and you sink you sink but Patrick Duffy was able to do it and you know propel himself through the water at terrific speed and also he had wept 01:00:02.330 --> 01:00:08.132 And he was very ashamed of his webbed fingers, but I just thought, no Patrick Duffy, you're lucky to have the webbed hands. 01:00:08.472 --> 01:00:09.193 That would be good, though. 01:00:09.233 --> 01:00:10.033 Gills would be great. 01:00:10.073 --> 01:00:12.994 You could sing underwater in a massive tank. 01:00:13.374 --> 01:00:13.734 Yeah. 01:00:14.435 --> 01:00:15.275 Gil Scott Herron. 01:00:15.835 --> 01:00:16.516 Yeah, well done. 01:00:17.876 --> 01:00:19.797 And somebody called Brother Mark? 01:00:19.857 --> 01:00:21.237 Maybe he's a monk, I don't know. 01:00:22.078 --> 01:00:29.721 He says, I would stick a post-it on my breast pocket with little reminders like, buy Marmalade, play Brixton, or call Jane back. 01:00:30.601 --> 01:00:33.603 Now that's like Prince rising slave on his head, right? 01:00:33.623 --> 01:00:36.065 Yeah, but a sort of more bureaucratic version thereof. 01:00:36.105 --> 01:00:37.266 Yeah, I think that's a good idea. 01:00:37.286 --> 01:00:39.047 Well, what about the young knives? 01:00:39.087 --> 01:00:40.168 They pretty much do that kind of thing. 01:00:40.188 --> 01:00:40.508 Do they do that? 01:00:40.548 --> 01:00:42.749 I mean, they all dress up like middle management. 01:00:42.769 --> 01:00:47.512 But this is very specific and it would be, wow, what's Brother Mark got on his post-it today? 01:00:47.532 --> 01:00:48.333 Yeah. 01:00:48.393 --> 01:00:51.455 You know, or for this interview or this concert, that would be good. 01:00:51.475 --> 01:00:51.595 Right. 01:00:51.615 --> 01:00:55.057 A bit like chap from Coldplay writing on his hand and stuff. 01:00:55.097 --> 01:00:55.418 Yeah. 01:00:55.678 --> 01:00:55.938 Yeah. 01:00:55.958 --> 01:00:57.379 Make trade free and all that stuff. 01:00:57.619 --> 01:00:59.640 A bit like that, but it would change and be weirder. 01:01:00.001 --> 01:01:00.181 Yeah. 01:01:00.541 --> 01:01:01.602 I think that's a very good idea. 01:01:01.642 --> 01:01:02.342 Keep them coming in. 01:01:02.402 --> 01:01:05.204 Text 64046, please. 01:01:06.144 --> 01:01:12.588 But right now, ladies and gentlemen, this was a band that was featured in that BBC Four sexuality documentary, Sexuality and Pop. 01:01:13.349 --> 01:01:15.930 And he just hasn't aged this guy. 01:01:15.970 --> 01:01:17.511 Bronsky Beat, I'm talking about the lead singer. 01:01:17.531 --> 01:01:18.251 What was his name again? 01:01:18.392 --> 01:01:19.152 Jimmy Somerville. 01:01:19.172 --> 01:01:20.353 Yeah, yeah, he is not aged. 01:01:20.473 --> 01:01:21.894 He don't have no hair though, do he? 01:01:22.054 --> 01:01:22.234 No. 01:01:22.674 --> 01:01:24.936 And having no hair is really good for looking young. 01:01:24.996 --> 01:01:26.418 Yeah, like Joe Jackson as well. 01:01:26.438 --> 01:01:26.678 Yeah. 01:01:26.758 --> 01:01:29.240 He's got a similar sort of baldy scalp. 01:01:29.300 --> 01:01:30.862 Being bald, it takes years off you. 01:01:30.942 --> 01:01:31.703 That's right. 01:01:31.823 --> 01:01:32.063 Yeah. 01:01:32.223 --> 01:01:34.145 If you're receding, take it all off. 01:01:34.265 --> 01:01:34.445 Yeah. 01:01:34.806 --> 01:01:36.528 And you'll be like a little space baby. 01:01:36.808 --> 01:01:38.069 Well, he looks fantastic. 01:01:38.289 --> 01:01:40.972 And here he is in good voice with Small Town Boy. 01:01:41.312 --> 01:01:43.412 Has Bronsky beat with Small Town Boy? 01:01:43.812 --> 01:01:45.093 Was that even their first hit? 01:01:45.593 --> 01:01:47.333 Uh, I think it possibly may have been, yes. 01:01:47.373 --> 01:01:48.633 A very important record. 01:01:48.913 --> 01:01:53.894 Well, yeah, he was the sort of, pretty much one of the first openly gay pop stars, you know what I mean? 01:01:53.954 --> 01:02:06.557 He wasn't sort of pussyfooting around the whole notion and, uh, you know, there's a lot of pop stars where you're pretty sure they're gay and there's a lot of stuff implied in their songs, but he was, uh, addressing all lots of gay issues completely head-on. 01:02:06.997 --> 01:02:08.897 And that was quite a depressing track, I remember. 01:02:08.937 --> 01:02:09.117 It was 01:02:09.497 --> 01:02:13.561 You know, it spoke to, it spoke to, uh, not just gay people, but yeah, mournful. 01:02:13.581 --> 01:02:17.024 It spoke to the feelings of isolation you get as a teenager anyway, you know what I mean? 01:02:17.064 --> 01:02:22.310 It particularly spoke to people about how boring it was, uh, travelling through the suburbs on trains. 01:02:22.650 --> 01:02:24.372 Yeah, he was looking out the window, wasn't he? 01:02:24.392 --> 01:02:24.672 Yeah. 01:02:24.772 --> 01:02:26.394 And, and it was a sort of depressing image. 01:02:27.294 --> 01:02:30.758 And then he got shunned by the guy in the, in the, uh, changing room there. 01:02:31.118 --> 01:02:32.739 Yeah, it's altogether very depressing. 01:02:33.540 --> 01:02:38.563 This is BBC 6 music, always keen to bring you down on a Saturday morning. 01:02:38.603 --> 01:02:42.445 Did you know, did you read this thing about Joss Stone doing the flake advert? 01:02:42.885 --> 01:02:43.145 No. 01:02:43.546 --> 01:02:45.687 She is the new face of Cadbury's flake. 01:02:45.987 --> 01:02:46.347 Really? 01:02:46.427 --> 01:02:46.687 Yeah. 01:02:47.228 --> 01:02:50.410 Which is, on what level do you think they've employed her? 01:02:50.710 --> 01:02:51.370 Nutty woman. 01:02:52.371 --> 01:02:53.231 You would think that... 01:02:54.312 --> 01:02:55.333 That would be the thing, wouldn't it? 01:02:55.353 --> 01:02:56.474 Coochie, nutty woman. 01:02:56.554 --> 01:02:57.074 Literally. 01:02:57.494 --> 01:03:03.438 You know, I think she'd be better suited to advertise a product that actually has nuts in it. 01:03:04.019 --> 01:03:06.780 Because then you could really capitalise on the fact that she is nutty. 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:16.687 Which we should say that kind of the, I don't know whether it's true, but the myth was always that the woman who was in the flake advert, the old flake advert in the bath, had a terrible, nervous breakdown. 01:03:16.747 --> 01:03:17.808 Nervy B. Really? 01:03:17.848 --> 01:03:18.949 And ended up being nutty. 01:03:19.049 --> 01:03:21.250 There were many flake women there, weren't there, many flakes? 01:03:21.290 --> 01:03:22.331 Yeah, but the one in the bath. 01:03:22.811 --> 01:03:23.551 They're all flaky. 01:03:23.571 --> 01:03:24.432 Shoving it in her gob. 01:03:24.672 --> 01:03:27.973 Because I wouldn't characterize Joss Stone as being flaky so much as nutty. 01:03:27.993 --> 01:03:29.513 Do you know what I mean? 01:03:29.593 --> 01:03:32.595 Eccentric, kooky, crazy, free-spirited. 01:03:32.675 --> 01:03:34.275 I do think she'd be better for Snickers. 01:03:34.435 --> 01:03:35.275 Doesn't wear shoes. 01:03:36.196 --> 01:03:38.437 Because what kind of advert would she be doing for flake? 01:03:38.457 --> 01:03:41.418 I wonder, would she be doing the whole sexy fellatio thing with it? 01:03:41.958 --> 01:03:42.398 Probably. 01:03:43.498 --> 01:03:44.699 In which case, is that good? 01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:46.440 Uh, I don't know. 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:47.661 Fancy a bit of stone? 01:03:47.701 --> 01:03:49.322 Look, there she is, there's a slice of stone. 01:03:49.522 --> 01:04:00.031 Well, I'm very keen on the man who produces her music, a musician called Raphael Sadiq, who's a brilliant kind of soul musician, but then he went and, I think, had an affair with her. 01:04:00.391 --> 01:04:00.712 Oh, did he? 01:04:01.212 --> 01:04:05.696 Well, there were rumours and also produced her last album that was a bit of a kind of a flop-o. 01:04:05.876 --> 01:04:10.620 She's absolutely... She's furious in this article from The Independent on Sunday. 01:04:11.260 --> 01:04:16.825 She's absolutely furious about the fact that she was vilified for turning up at the Brits and having an American accent. 01:04:17.045 --> 01:04:17.546 That's right. 01:04:17.606 --> 01:04:19.147 You know, she said, well, what do you want? 01:04:19.207 --> 01:04:20.308 My accent changes. 01:04:20.448 --> 01:04:22.270 You know, I made my album with a bunch of Americans. 01:04:22.290 --> 01:04:25.673 When people go to Australia for two weeks, they come back sounding Australian. 01:04:25.693 --> 01:04:27.034 That's a bit rich, isn't it? 01:04:28.815 --> 01:04:35.181 I mean, you know, just because maybe people, they sort of do the accent thing at the end. 01:04:35.201 --> 01:04:36.723 You know, they kind of talk a bit like that. 01:04:36.943 --> 01:04:38.004 It goes up at the end a little bit. 01:04:38.024 --> 01:04:38.945 That's nothing to be proud of. 01:04:38.985 --> 01:04:40.306 Everybody talks like that now. 01:04:40.726 --> 01:04:41.947 Anyway, she's upset about it. 01:04:41.967 --> 01:04:45.891 And she's saying, people have just said, well, F you in England. 01:04:46.572 --> 01:04:49.574 And you know, you know what, we just decided we don't like you anymore. 01:04:49.614 --> 01:04:50.455 It's so unfair. 01:04:51.196 --> 01:04:53.758 And so she thinks that if she advertises flake, 01:04:54.779 --> 01:04:56.100 That's gonna bring it round for her. 01:04:56.140 --> 01:05:01.983 Yeah, maybe you know and she thinks it's a blow for warm for women as well She's saying come on girls. 01:05:02.383 --> 01:05:04.024 You know you want a bit of chocolate. 01:05:04.885 --> 01:05:15.371 It's tastes good It makes you feel good and then she says at the end obviously don't be a fat BS because then you'll Then you'll be more depressed a fat BS a bestowed. 01:05:15.851 --> 01:05:17.132 Okay, that's not a BS. 01:05:17.172 --> 01:05:17.432 Is it? 01:05:17.772 --> 01:05:18.792 No, I don't know 01:05:19.833 --> 01:05:21.114 Anyway, it's confusing times. 01:05:21.314 --> 01:05:21.914 Just don't use. 01:05:21.934 --> 01:05:23.255 Just own them for flake eaters. 01:05:23.655 --> 01:05:25.136 Best avoid them both, I'd say. 01:05:25.176 --> 01:05:25.637 Absolutely. 01:05:26.297 --> 01:05:27.818 Now, here's a track that I picked for you, listeners. 01:05:27.838 --> 01:05:36.544 This is from Richard Hell and the Voidoids, and this is from their album, which I think is just called Richard Hell and the Voidoids, maybe, and it's called I'm Your Man. 01:05:36.964 --> 01:05:37.324 Yeah. 01:05:37.684 --> 01:05:39.205 That was a certain track there. 01:05:39.306 --> 01:05:40.646 Simeon playing L.A. 01:05:40.706 --> 01:05:41.067 Breeze. 01:05:41.987 --> 01:05:44.769 Uh, recorded for 6 Music on the 17th of June, 2003. 01:05:45.269 --> 01:05:49.852 That seems- I can't even believe that 6 Music was going in 2003. 01:05:50.132 --> 01:05:51.093 It seems such a long time. 01:05:51.113 --> 01:05:51.333 Wowza. 01:05:51.653 --> 01:05:52.133 Do you know what I mean? 01:05:52.353 --> 01:05:53.034 I know what you mean. 01:05:54.095 --> 01:05:54.695 Movie news? 01:05:54.915 --> 01:05:55.335 Oh yeah? 01:05:55.475 --> 01:05:56.716 Can I give you some movie news? 01:05:56.776 --> 01:05:57.396 I love movie news. 01:05:57.437 --> 01:05:59.938 Now, uh, do you remember a film called The Blair Witch Project? 01:06:00.658 --> 01:06:01.359 Uh, remind me? 01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:02.780 It was a kind of, uh... 01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:11.303 Spooky film about a group of annoying kids that went into the woods in America to look for an ancient house where a witch lived. 01:06:11.903 --> 01:06:12.884 It was all handheld. 01:06:12.944 --> 01:06:13.784 That was the beginning of it. 01:06:13.884 --> 01:06:15.565 You do remember the play, of course I do. 01:06:15.765 --> 01:06:16.325 It was real. 01:06:16.465 --> 01:06:17.025 It was all real. 01:06:17.045 --> 01:06:17.485 It was real. 01:06:17.525 --> 01:06:18.346 I loved that film. 01:06:18.786 --> 01:06:20.126 It was a film that divided people. 01:06:20.146 --> 01:06:22.527 It depended on the circumstances under which you saw it. 01:06:22.627 --> 01:06:28.389 I was given it months, months, years even, before release, because it went around quite a lot. 01:06:28.529 --> 01:06:29.970 You were given it before it was made. 01:06:30.630 --> 01:06:45.841 uh yeah that's true yeah you made it yeah on on a vhs cassette basically a friend of mine gave me a pirate on a vhs cassette before i'd heard anything about it i thought it was real did you really you told i remember you told me at the time yeah this is you're gonna blow your mind it seems absolutely real 01:06:46.281 --> 01:06:48.202 I just couldn't believe what you were on about. 01:06:48.262 --> 01:06:48.742 Well, they do. 01:06:48.842 --> 01:06:50.303 It divides people films like that. 01:06:50.323 --> 01:06:51.803 You either buy it or you kind of don't. 01:06:51.863 --> 01:06:53.844 If you don't, it's a hideous nightmare. 01:06:54.164 --> 01:07:00.207 Anyway, the point of that is that when Blair Witch came out, everybody thought, wow, all movies are going to be like this now. 01:07:00.347 --> 01:07:00.727 That's right. 01:07:00.747 --> 01:07:06.329 Because I think it's the highest-grossing film of all time in terms of the amount it costs compared to the amount it made. 01:07:06.649 --> 01:07:06.829 Right. 01:07:06.849 --> 01:07:07.629 The amount of profit. 01:07:08.570 --> 01:07:10.771 It remains, I think, the highest-grossing film of all time. 01:07:10.811 --> 01:07:11.071 Really? 01:07:11.491 --> 01:07:12.651 So the most profitable film. 01:07:12.671 --> 01:07:13.892 The most profitable film, yeah. 01:07:14.833 --> 01:07:17.877 Er... Everyone thought it was gonna, like, change the film industry. 01:07:17.897 --> 01:07:19.800 It was gonna... Have they throw out the rules? 01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:22.364 There'd be no more tripods or set-ups or crews. 01:07:22.845 --> 01:07:24.888 You know, anybody could make a film with a camcorder. 01:07:25.168 --> 01:07:26.130 Er, it wasn't true. 01:07:26.170 --> 01:07:26.771 Nothing happened. 01:07:27.351 --> 01:07:28.173 When was Blair Witch? 01:07:28.233 --> 01:07:28.834 Ninety-seven? 01:07:28.874 --> 01:07:29.294 Ninety-eight? 01:07:30.035 --> 01:07:30.997 That sort of period. 01:07:31.277 --> 01:07:35.343 So a good 10 years later, another film's come along that uses the same technique. 01:07:36.104 --> 01:07:36.865 Have you heard about it? 01:07:36.885 --> 01:07:38.066 It's called Cloverfield. 01:07:39.008 --> 01:07:43.974 All the internet geeks and web nerds are going crazy about it. 01:07:44.014 --> 01:07:44.956 They have been all summer. 01:07:45.236 --> 01:07:49.758 because there was a very kind of mysterious trailer attached to the beginning of Transformers. 01:07:50.519 --> 01:08:07.427 This is a movie that's basically like a Godzilla film, only it's shown from the point of view of a guy with a camcorder, a kind of yuppie, who's having a party for a friend called Rob, because Rob's leaving for Japan, and he's getting everyone to give messages for Rob on the camcorder. 01:08:08.247 --> 01:08:09.969 and Rob's just broken up with Beth. 01:08:10.789 --> 01:08:16.574 Beth, he's known Beth since he was a kid and he just slept with her for the first time and now she's furious. 01:08:16.594 --> 01:08:24.840 They've broken up and they're having a party and we've got the tape of the party and then suddenly a massive earthquake. 01:08:25.321 --> 01:08:26.181 Is it an earthquake? 01:08:26.481 --> 01:08:27.622 Is it a terrorist attack? 01:08:28.043 --> 01:08:29.304 No, it's a big monster! 01:08:29.864 --> 01:08:40.598 And it's squashing all Manhattan and marching through the city and stuff, and Rob's friend HUD, he's got the video camera, he runs out into the street, and the st- I'm not giving anything away, this is all in the trailer. 01:08:40.638 --> 01:08:41.399 You've seen the film, right? 01:08:41.419 --> 01:08:41.559 Yeah. 01:08:41.699 --> 01:08:46.466 The Statue of Liberty's head comes bouncing down the street like a bouncy ball. 01:08:46.506 --> 01:08:46.666 Yeah. 01:08:46.786 --> 01:08:47.547 What's going on? 01:08:47.967 --> 01:08:54.212 And they have to save Beth because she's trapped in an apartment with a bit of metal through one of her boobs. 01:08:54.312 --> 01:08:55.373 It's a frightful business. 01:08:55.393 --> 01:08:55.874 No one likes that. 01:08:56.034 --> 01:08:56.854 Nobody likes that. 01:08:56.955 --> 01:08:59.256 Anyway, everyone is exciting. 01:08:59.276 --> 01:09:01.018 I went to see it at the cinema. 01:09:01.058 --> 01:09:02.259 I don't want to give too much away. 01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:04.781 So it's kind of a blockbuster on a macro level. 01:09:05.081 --> 01:09:06.342 It's a macro buster. 01:09:06.502 --> 01:09:07.063 You know what I mean? 01:09:07.143 --> 01:09:07.443 Yeah. 01:09:08.184 --> 01:09:08.584 Exactly. 01:09:08.604 --> 01:09:10.085 Which is quite an interesting idea. 01:09:10.126 --> 01:09:14.189 It's like the remake of Godzilla that everybody hated but was secretly 01:09:14.749 --> 01:09:15.270 You loved it. 01:09:15.510 --> 01:09:18.611 As if it was, as if someone was just covering it from ground level. 01:09:18.871 --> 01:09:19.112 Right. 01:09:19.152 --> 01:09:19.892 With a camcorder. 01:09:19.912 --> 01:09:21.893 It's made lots of money in America. 01:09:22.193 --> 01:09:22.994 And is it satisfying? 01:09:23.054 --> 01:09:23.654 Is it a good watch? 01:09:24.414 --> 01:09:25.135 No. 01:09:25.255 --> 01:09:25.855 Why would it be? 01:09:26.435 --> 01:09:27.636 Again, it's gonna divide people. 01:09:27.796 --> 01:09:28.777 Loads of people love it. 01:09:28.877 --> 01:09:31.058 Here's what I imagine the problem with that would be, right? 01:09:32.278 --> 01:09:53.131 At some point you're gonna be reliant on shots that are absolutely obviously CG Correct and with just a little filter over the top to make it look like video and that kind of thing is just rubbish Well, this is where it kind of for me went wrong And again, it's not out in this country as I don't want to make a mess of your expectations But you know, it's a good thing to lower your expectations 01:09:53.551 --> 01:09:55.973 for anything, because you can only be pleasantly surprised. 01:09:56.053 --> 01:10:00.696 But especially people like Adam and I, we used to make telly and still work a lot with camcorders. 01:10:01.096 --> 01:10:04.078 So we know what the reality is. 01:10:04.098 --> 01:10:07.380 And most people now know what the reality is of a camcorder tape. 01:10:07.400 --> 01:10:08.581 Yeah, looking through a viewfinder. 01:10:08.641 --> 01:10:09.061 They don't. 01:10:09.321 --> 01:10:13.504 First of all, it's the highest quality camcorder I've ever seen in my life. 01:10:13.604 --> 01:10:13.844 Yeah. 01:10:14.004 --> 01:10:14.805 It's really good. 01:10:14.845 --> 01:10:15.826 Better than HD. 01:10:15.866 --> 01:10:16.686 Must be higher than 1080p. 01:10:16.746 --> 01:10:16.966 Right. 01:10:18.947 --> 01:10:21.308 Secondly, all sorts of things don't make sense. 01:10:21.348 --> 01:10:25.190 For instance, at one stage, one of the characters' brother is killed by the monster. 01:10:25.670 --> 01:10:27.170 He calls his mum to tell her. 01:10:27.510 --> 01:10:28.371 His mate films it. 01:10:29.211 --> 01:10:34.713 Oh, there's Rob telling his mum that his brother's dead. 01:10:35.173 --> 01:10:35.733 Capture that. 01:10:36.054 --> 01:10:37.894 Watch that, you know, in the future. 01:10:38.454 --> 01:10:39.155 That'll be nice. 01:10:40.295 --> 01:11:01.388 uh and then they all at one stage the whole monster thing gets too much for them so rob just goes into a quiet corner on the subway and sobs on a bench uh hud films that as well as rob sobbing about the monster i'll just frame him to the extreme right with the frame so it's not absolutely obvious that i'm telling you because i wouldn't want to make him self-conscious yeah at the very end 01:11:02.648 --> 01:11:04.309 I can't really tell you about the very end. 01:11:04.329 --> 01:11:05.310 No, don't make people upset. 01:11:05.330 --> 01:11:06.170 Because it's too bad. 01:11:06.630 --> 01:11:08.671 But it really didn't work for me. 01:11:08.972 --> 01:11:11.773 It never works that kind of thing because it's very hard to get... Well, don't get me wrong. 01:11:11.813 --> 01:11:12.574 Millions love it. 01:11:12.634 --> 01:11:14.474 People love that they're going crazy about this film. 01:11:14.495 --> 01:11:16.215 People were coming out of the cinema. 01:11:16.235 --> 01:11:16.776 Do you ever get that? 01:11:16.796 --> 01:11:18.316 You're coming out of something, you're in a crowd. 01:11:18.457 --> 01:11:18.697 Yes. 01:11:18.717 --> 01:11:20.358 You really weren't impressed by it. 01:11:20.618 --> 01:11:22.279 And people around you were just going, oh, it's incredible. 01:11:22.579 --> 01:11:22.979 It's amazing. 01:11:23.059 --> 01:11:24.140 I was absolutely mind blowing. 01:11:24.160 --> 01:11:24.940 I nearly wet myself. 01:11:25.180 --> 01:11:27.602 Yeah, I'm getting that with Battlestar Galactica at the moment. 01:11:27.662 --> 01:11:27.982 Really? 01:11:28.042 --> 01:11:31.245 People, a lot of my friends just say it's the best thing ever made. 01:11:31.625 --> 01:11:39.611 And especially as I was a big fan of The Wire, and there was a big void left in my life when I watched all the available episodes of The Wire, went on to Battlestar Galactica. 01:11:39.912 --> 01:11:41.993 I don't like it on Battlestar Galactica. 01:11:42.514 --> 01:11:43.575 It's fracking rubbish. 01:11:43.875 --> 01:11:44.635 Fracking rubbish? 01:11:44.655 --> 01:11:44.896 Yeah. 01:11:45.576 --> 01:11:54.061 And, uh, they have a whole episode where, like, a member of the media comes on the ship and does a whole sort of expose of what it's like on the Battlestar. 01:11:54.561 --> 01:12:00.545 And she, her crew just films all these arguments and terrible things that are going on in a way that would, of course, never happen. 01:12:00.565 --> 01:12:01.085 Camcorder style. 01:12:01.125 --> 01:12:01.606 Yeah, exactly. 01:12:01.626 --> 01:12:05.968 Well, you know, there's two other camcorder films, very quickly, that I'll flag up, that I think are gonna be better than Cloverfield. 01:12:05.988 --> 01:12:07.169 There's a Spanish one called Rec. 01:12:07.789 --> 01:12:09.572 Which is, uh, I'm not quite sure what it's about. 01:12:09.592 --> 01:12:11.915 I think it's a zombie thing, but that's supposed to be brilliant. 01:12:12.215 --> 01:12:19.244 And there's an American one called Paranormal Activity about a couple whose house is haunted, and they set up camcorders to record the ghost at night. 01:12:19.364 --> 01:12:20.065 Oh, that sounds good. 01:12:20.085 --> 01:12:21.947 Uh, the trailer for that looks really scary. 01:12:22.007 --> 01:12:22.668 Yeah, yeah. 01:12:23.088 --> 01:12:23.329 Anyway. 01:12:23.729 --> 01:12:26.231 That's movie news, now it's time for Rufus Wainwright. 01:12:26.551 --> 01:12:33.115 Rufus Wainwright with The One You Love, this is Adam and Jo on BBC6 Music, here with the slightly late news, and Nicki Cardwell and Adrian Larkin. 01:12:33.255 --> 01:12:34.676 Who wants to be writer's reign? 01:12:35.056 --> 01:12:37.018 That's what Adele is saying there. 01:12:38.138 --> 01:12:40.960 Is it not a problem that Adele sounds so similar to Amy Winehouse? 01:12:41.320 --> 01:12:42.821 I thought that was Amy Winehouse. 01:12:43.221 --> 01:12:47.124 No, I mean, she's got almost exactly the same little vocal inflections there and everything. 01:12:47.344 --> 01:12:50.808 Well, I guess they're just lining her up in case something goes wrong with Winehouse. 01:12:51.549 --> 01:12:53.571 It's good to have a plan B, a full back position. 01:12:53.611 --> 01:12:54.452 Good to have a little spare. 01:12:54.872 --> 01:12:58.115 Now, I'm sorry about this folks, but it's time to deal with song wars again. 01:13:09.734 --> 01:13:15.639 Let's start with my song, which I fear is going to be the losing song this week, considering I wouldn't even vote for it. 01:13:15.659 --> 01:13:18.482 Oh, I thought, you know, man, you've got funny lyrics there. 01:13:18.742 --> 01:13:19.803 No, I'd vote for your song. 01:13:20.403 --> 01:13:21.384 Let's get my one out of the way. 01:13:21.404 --> 01:13:25.328 This is called, it hasn't even got a name, it's just a song about illegal downloading. 01:13:25.368 --> 01:13:25.588 Here we go. 01:13:25.688 --> 01:13:30.192 Imagine staying without a house, living on the street. 01:13:31.213 --> 01:13:35.797 Imagine if Led Zeppelin could not afford to eat. 01:13:37.029 --> 01:13:54.063 Imagine if the rolling stones had to gnaw on filthy bones That's what might happen if you all keep illegal downloading The foundations of rock'n'roll will slowly be eroded 01:13:55.034 --> 01:14:22.189 You might get tunes for free, but you'll destroy the industry The cops might come looking at your door You need to search this to the floor Imagine Kate Nash penniless Maybe one house of useless mess Kylie Minogue without a dress Radiohead even more depressed Okay, so those things sound quite cool I have a willingness 01:14:22.509 --> 01:14:23.490 Uh, listeners, can you hear me? 01:14:23.590 --> 01:14:24.931 Adam's actually gone to the loo. 01:14:25.391 --> 01:14:27.293 I've got such little faith in my song. 01:14:27.333 --> 01:14:28.834 He's not in the studio at the moment. 01:14:28.854 --> 01:14:29.735 This is Joe speaking. 01:14:29.935 --> 01:14:31.396 I'm just gonna fade my song out. 01:14:32.237 --> 01:14:36.760 And I think, I think you should all vote for Adam's song because otherwise he's gonna have a nervous break. 01:14:37.205 --> 01:14:38.065 Sorry, mate. 01:14:38.105 --> 01:14:38.406 Sorry. 01:14:38.526 --> 01:14:38.746 Hello. 01:14:38.766 --> 01:14:39.446 What were you saying? 01:14:39.546 --> 01:14:39.866 Nothing. 01:14:40.667 --> 01:14:41.747 Anyway, that's my song. 01:14:42.067 --> 01:14:43.468 Are you doing propaganda? 01:14:43.608 --> 01:14:44.268 No, no. 01:14:44.288 --> 01:14:45.048 No, I was in the lobby. 01:14:45.088 --> 01:14:45.849 No, no, no, no. 01:14:46.189 --> 01:14:46.929 Sorry, I have said it. 01:14:47.009 --> 01:14:47.770 Introduce your song. 01:14:48.930 --> 01:14:49.570 He was, wasn't he? 01:14:49.630 --> 01:14:50.651 He's doing propaganda. 01:14:50.971 --> 01:14:52.652 That's not necessary to do propaganda. 01:14:52.672 --> 01:14:53.312 How many have you won? 01:14:53.632 --> 01:14:54.412 Fifteen or something? 01:14:54.432 --> 01:14:55.033 I've won one. 01:14:55.493 --> 01:14:58.234 Three percent of the vote I got last week. 01:14:58.594 --> 01:15:00.455 Four votes in total or whatever it was. 01:15:00.495 --> 01:15:00.675 Yeah. 01:15:01.075 --> 01:15:04.357 Anyway, listeners, here's Adam's piracy song right now. 01:15:04.477 --> 01:15:04.877 Check it out. 01:15:05.157 --> 01:15:26.811 I want to have a look at that film today But I don't think I'm gonna pay Cause I'm fine, and I still I don't care, I don't fail I don't say anything, you're gone And I put it in my pocket, yeah I still film, I still books I still books, I still looks I still kiss, well I don't steal kids by my age 01:15:28.103 --> 01:15:29.464 That's the mind of a pirate. 01:15:29.845 --> 01:15:31.726 Did you hear the hate and greed? 01:15:32.167 --> 01:15:36.831 And our beloved entertainment biz is where the dirty pirates feed. 01:15:37.191 --> 01:15:40.755 And I don't mean terrorists and their golden compass knock-offs. 01:15:41.455 --> 01:15:43.277 I mean you and your downloads. 01:15:43.537 --> 01:15:45.299 Oh, I ought to knock your block-offs. 01:15:45.799 --> 01:15:48.962 How do you think this stuff gets made if you think artists create it? 01:15:49.042 --> 01:16:04.376 They don't get paid, it's the only reason they do what they do It's not the flippin' work, most of that's poo They depend on the money that you idiots give So they can make more crap, and so they can live the good life Yes, the life of the stars But you're taking their pools and you're taking their cars, you bastards! 01:16:04.416 --> 01:16:05.557 Ha ha ha! 01:16:05.737 --> 01:16:07.499 You better believe it, pal! 01:16:07.719 --> 01:16:10.702 Cause we're evil, we're stunt, stick along! 01:16:16.630 --> 01:16:42.042 Then we're gonna have a party And we're gonna play some music And nobody at the party's gonna play Yes the world is changing I don't like it But that's the way it is So we've hooked up some statistics That will show you how you're ruining All the finely tuned mechanics of the end 01:16:46.107 --> 01:16:52.231 computer represents a physical purchase you would have made, possibly. 01:16:52.951 --> 01:17:00.315 And even if you're buying other stuff that don't make up for all the phantom profit that you've slayed. 01:17:00.476 --> 01:17:05.799 I don't care, because I'm mental, I'm evil, and I deserve to be locked up. 01:17:05.959 --> 01:17:09.521 Because I'm a horse, and I smell, and I want to go to 01:17:24.042 --> 01:17:26.756 I might have to go and buy it anyway 01:17:30.143 --> 01:17:31.844 Always with me, ironic. 01:17:32.365 --> 01:17:32.625 Yeah. 01:17:32.965 --> 01:17:34.446 There we go, that song was for this week. 01:17:34.506 --> 01:17:36.547 The first song that you heard was Joe's song. 01:17:36.648 --> 01:17:44.613 If you want to vote for that one, text Joe to 64046, or email Joe to AdamandJoe.6musicatbbc.co.uk. 01:17:44.953 --> 01:17:46.734 And if you want to vote for the second one, that was Adam's. 01:17:47.215 --> 01:17:52.178 The one you just heard, do the same, but send Adam to those numbers or addresses. 01:17:52.558 --> 01:17:56.481 If you're listening again, of course, the text won't work, so do send an email. 01:17:56.861 --> 01:17:57.682 And thank you very much. 01:17:57.702 --> 01:18:01.046 We don't have a note of who suggested that theme, do we? 01:18:01.126 --> 01:18:03.589 But it was suggested by someone. 01:18:03.629 --> 01:18:04.650 You know who you are. 01:18:04.730 --> 01:18:06.091 Yeah, so thanks a lot, man. 01:18:06.412 --> 01:18:06.712 Thanks. 01:18:06.872 --> 01:18:09.895 We didn't exactly put both sides of the argument in our songs. 01:18:10.236 --> 01:18:11.657 No, it wasn't clearly overall. 01:18:12.298 --> 01:18:15.301 But we really tried there. 01:18:15.521 --> 01:18:17.343 And that might be the last song wars for a while. 01:18:17.944 --> 01:18:20.365 Hey, that's not foregone conclusion. 01:18:20.665 --> 01:18:21.025 Is it not? 01:18:21.345 --> 01:18:23.466 No, I guess we'll rest it for a week. 01:18:23.706 --> 01:18:24.607 Song was sabbatical. 01:18:24.807 --> 01:18:26.227 Song was sabbatical for a week. 01:18:26.267 --> 01:18:28.548 Because we've got to play the winning one next week anyway. 01:18:28.588 --> 01:18:29.969 Yeah, exactly. 01:18:30.549 --> 01:18:33.030 And we'll find something exciting to replace it with temporarily. 01:18:33.790 --> 01:18:48.526 uh now here's a free play uh from me this is a guy called dr octagon aka cool keith uh this is a brilliant confusing song if you can make any sense of these lyrics you're a better man than me but uh i don't mind this is called um get off my elevator 01:18:48.786 --> 01:18:49.226 There we go. 01:18:49.306 --> 01:18:50.367 Cool Keith, a.k.a. 01:18:50.427 --> 01:18:52.268 Dr. Octagon with Get Off My Elevator. 01:18:52.288 --> 01:18:54.290 This is Adam and Joe on BBC Six. 01:18:54.310 --> 01:18:57.011 What's the difference between his personas then? 01:18:57.331 --> 01:18:58.632 Is Dr. Octagon... I don't know. 01:18:58.672 --> 01:19:00.493 Was Dr. Octagon absolutely filthy? 01:19:01.194 --> 01:19:03.895 Yeah, he was occasionally very filthy. 01:19:04.036 --> 01:19:04.236 Yeah. 01:19:04.256 --> 01:19:10.259 It's a fantastic record by Dr. Octagon that I can't even mention anything about because it's so filthy. 01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:11.080 He's absolutely filthy. 01:19:11.120 --> 01:19:13.361 Yeah, but it involves the lady's hair. 01:19:14.602 --> 01:19:34.756 things going into it that shouldn't yeah in a phone box right yeah that's from sort of the end of the 90s isn't it that uh yeah that that one get off my elevator yeah but he's had stuff out recently as he yeah he's quite patchy so do to preview before you purchase is he like a patchy indian he is very like a patchy indian why doesn't the patchy indian do some new stuff i don't know 01:19:36.431 --> 01:19:38.032 That's one of my favourite songs in the world. 01:19:38.092 --> 01:19:39.152 I might play that next week. 01:19:39.172 --> 01:19:39.832 It's a good song. 01:19:40.012 --> 01:19:42.533 Right and go up, right and go down. 01:19:42.913 --> 01:19:47.154 Now listen, one or two people have been talking about how it's quite difficult to tell our voices apart. 01:19:47.194 --> 01:19:47.595 That's true. 01:19:47.895 --> 01:19:50.535 Our usual producer, Jude, tried to pan us. 01:19:50.716 --> 01:19:52.236 One on the left and one on the right. 01:19:52.256 --> 01:19:53.736 I think I'm on the left and you're on the right. 01:19:53.756 --> 01:19:55.017 Something like that. 01:19:55.077 --> 01:19:55.917 Yeah. 01:19:55.977 --> 01:19:57.798 But here's an email from Claire Laybreak. 01:19:58.798 --> 01:19:59.959 Um, who is a student? 01:20:00.659 --> 01:20:03.820 Hi Adam and Jo, I was surprised to hear that some listeners can't tell you apart on the radio. 01:20:03.860 --> 01:20:05.281 I think your voices are quite distinctive. 01:20:05.681 --> 01:20:10.143 Thought I might help out with some handy spot- with a handy spotters or listeners guide to Adam and Jo. 01:20:10.203 --> 01:20:10.723 Okay, you ready? 01:20:11.343 --> 01:20:13.584 One, Adam has a deeper, usually quite cheery voice. 01:20:14.004 --> 01:20:18.786 Jo's voice is lighter, but with just the occasional slight hint of sarcasm and a teeny bit of cynicism. 01:20:19.346 --> 01:20:23.488 Two, Adam seems to like torturing his vocal chords to see what weird voice he can get out. 01:20:24.228 --> 01:20:25.910 If you hear a funny voice, it's probably Adam. 01:20:26.190 --> 01:20:32.215 Joe doesn't do as many funny voices, but if you hear a West Country accent or a snorting, thanks a lot, Al Gore, it's probably Joe. 01:20:32.975 --> 01:20:36.879 Three, Adam can swing from cheery to enraged in one conversation. 01:20:37.339 --> 01:20:43.324 Joe keeps a steady voice throughout, although he can sound bored, and he seems to delight in baiting Adam into a fit of rage. 01:20:44.004 --> 01:20:46.006 Four, Adam usually loses song wars. 01:20:46.246 --> 01:20:47.407 Joe usually wins song wars. 01:20:47.927 --> 01:20:51.150 Five, Adam can occasionally get sidetracked from the point he's trying to make. 01:20:51.450 --> 01:20:53.312 To be fair, he's usually sidetracked by Joe. 01:20:53.872 --> 01:20:58.476 Joe likes making lists to make sure he gets all his points across, usually he'll get the numbering wrong. 01:20:59.437 --> 01:21:00.998 Eight, we then go from five to eight. 01:21:01.498 --> 01:21:07.022 If someone is talking about movies, oh, I see, that's, you know, yeah, especially 3D movies, it's probably Joe. 01:21:07.503 --> 01:21:10.465 If they're talking about Radiohead David Bowie or playing music, it's probably Adam. 01:21:12.066 --> 01:21:15.049 If they're telling an anecdote with a healthy dose of name dropping, that'll be Joe. 01:21:15.709 --> 01:21:19.410 If they're telling an anecdote that gets them enraged and spluttering, that'll be Adam. 01:21:19.830 --> 01:21:27.972 And finally, here's the last one, if they remind you of a favourite uncle who gives you gifts when they visit and tells stories doing all the weird voices, it's Adam. 01:21:28.412 --> 01:21:35.333 If they remind you of a cool, older cousin who you desperately want to be liked by, but who tuts and rolls his eyes at you, it's Joe. 01:21:35.973 --> 01:21:37.514 There you go. 01:21:37.554 --> 01:21:38.514 That's pretty thorough, isn't it? 01:21:38.534 --> 01:21:39.714 Yeah, that's very thorough, that's scary. 01:21:39.734 --> 01:21:40.835 Just put a lot of thought into that. 01:21:40.895 --> 01:21:42.475 Yeah, we've been profiled. 01:21:43.776 --> 01:21:44.917 Maybe she works for the police. 01:21:45.478 --> 01:21:46.479 Yeah, or the government. 01:21:46.739 --> 01:21:47.940 Hey, we work for the government. 01:21:48.160 --> 01:21:48.581 We do. 01:21:48.641 --> 01:21:49.362 We are the government. 01:21:49.382 --> 01:21:50.142 We are the government. 01:21:50.563 --> 01:21:51.604 We're in the big British castle. 01:21:51.684 --> 01:21:52.505 Claire, you're under arrest. 01:21:52.525 --> 01:21:55.168 We're gonna put you in the dungeon for just being cheeky. 01:21:55.248 --> 01:21:56.789 For unauthorised profiling. 01:21:56.889 --> 01:21:57.670 Having lovely cheeks. 01:21:58.351 --> 01:22:00.613 Now, here's some more music just before we say goodbye to you folks. 01:22:00.653 --> 01:22:01.995 This is The Beloved with Hello. 01:22:02.515 --> 01:22:03.256 Brian Hayes. 01:22:03.816 --> 01:22:05.757 He's like an old LBC DJ. 01:22:05.837 --> 01:22:08.279 Brian Hayes is still very much in action, yeah. 01:22:08.519 --> 01:22:09.840 Wow, that's like a song or a song. 01:22:10.240 --> 01:22:10.881 I know, that's good. 01:22:10.961 --> 01:22:13.402 It'd be great to be immortalized in a song like that, wouldn't it? 01:22:13.522 --> 01:22:15.884 Just... Ah, I'd love a little bit of name checking. 01:22:16.224 --> 01:22:16.524 Yeah. 01:22:16.544 --> 01:22:17.345 It'll never happen, will it? 01:22:18.126 --> 01:22:19.587 Well, that's pretty much it for us this week. 01:22:19.627 --> 01:22:22.630 Thank you so much for listening and for texting us and getting in touch with us. 01:22:22.850 --> 01:22:25.793 Thanks for all your texts and emails, especially the long involved emails. 01:22:25.833 --> 01:22:29.076 We particularly love those and keep them coming in. 01:22:29.317 --> 01:22:30.097 They all get readied. 01:22:30.198 --> 01:22:30.898 We'll be back next week. 01:22:30.918 --> 01:22:33.901 Don't forget the podcast available from the BBC website right now. 01:22:33.921 --> 01:22:34.662 Here's Mark Ronson. 01:22:35.082 --> 01:22:35.283 Bye.